<a href='http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/giantbear.htm' target='_blank'>Bears get fairly big...</a>
(and don't pay attention to that fact/rumor stuff either, that's just refering to how the bear was killed - stories below anyway, but I wouldn't trust all of that)
That's what got passed around at Thanksgiving...or maybe it was Christmas.
I vote bear, if only because it can defend itself with more than just it's weight, unlike a Buffalo, who doesn't have claws or sharp teeth. Especially if it's the above bear.
Bears also hunt things besides fish...fish are just easiest (if salmon are swimming upstream and you can claw one out of mid-air, I'm sure you'd do it for food). They hunt deer and elk, and the occasional human mauling (even after getting shot).
Pack of Lions vs Bear would be closer, but I'll still go with the bear, unless it's just been dropped onto the savannah and has no idea what's going on.
The thing with bullets they don't tend to rip out the jugular of an animal. Shooting a bear in the neck 5 times doesn't even cause 3% of the damage getting it's throat ripped out by a lion would.
Last I checked bears had very stiff, large necks, and wouldn't be able to defend well against a leap and bite attack. They have shorter, bigger paws that move too slowly to stop a leaping lioness (just about anything moves to slowly actually). So I would still put my money on the lion, simply because they often fight other predators in the wild, and are more accustomed to fighting for their lives.
Bears don't have natural predators, lions are hunted by hyenias, other lions and such.
havnt you ever seent the wizard of OZ? jeeze people lions are woosies
but really i would think lion would pawn anything but polar bear or that big huge bear above....
and dont you guys remember that video they showed like 3 weeks ago in these very forums, where the hunter shoots the lion and it still takes a few swipes at him?
oh and the most dangerous and deadly animal in the world is(well, in hand to hand combat) is the hippo, those things pawn
and while the only way to find out is to kidnap a tiger and a bear, then tell the other that theyve called eachother dorks, bears are huge big things.
theyre very powerful
lions go for things they can win - young, old, weak or diseased animals
when it comes to fighting, bears are much more aggressive, and just keep wading forward ignoring small wounds. so the lion would just try and swipe, or growl etc, maybe do a bit of small damage, [nothing major], then get one hit in the head and be down for the count... and then down for an autopsy [but then again, its fairly obvious what you died of if your entire head is caved in]
if the bear and the lion both wanted to fight, the bear would win.
off-topic has so many random entities.. it's like a blackhole of crap.
anyway.. i'm going to say the lion just because no one seems to have faith in him. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I'd have to vote bear.
True, if the lion could rip out the jugular it'd have a decent shot. But that's assuming that it could get close enough without being mangled. And have the strength to literally rip out that much meat from the bear, when lions usually tend to go for more grabbing and biting down to crush the windpipe and suffocate their prey. It'd be less likely to succeed, if it got past the claws, or the bear just falling on it. Clawing damage would have less effect on a bear with the extra fat carried around, unless hit in the eyes... but at that point the bear would be pretty screwed anyway.
Bunch of 'ifs' to result in the lion succeeding. I'd also say they'd just growl at each other a bit, then wander off their own ways, if they weren't MADE to fight.
Basically it would all come down to what kind of bear we are talking about. I'd give it to the lion vs a black bear, but probably not a grizly (grizly = tank, lion = smaller tank). One things for sure, it would be really really gruesome.
Walrus vs Hippo... thats a tough one. On land the hippo has the greater manuverability, but in water the oposite is true... If they were to fight in some mythical medium which was sufficiently dense to take away the advantage, then I'd probably go with the walrus, because the hippo was (afaik) never the subject of any of lewis carol's writings.
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Mar 11 2004, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Mar 11 2004, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Basically it would all come down to what kind of bear we are talking about. I'd give it to the lion vs a black bear, but probably not a grizly (grizly = tank, lion = smaller tank). One things for sure, it would be really really gruesome.
Walrus vs Hippo... thats a tough one. On land the hippo has the greater manuverability, but in water the oposite is true... If they were to fight in some mythical medium which was sufficiently dense to take away the advantage, then I'd probably go with the walrus, because the hippo was (afaik) never the subject of any of lewis carol's writings. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hippos would pawn, not even 20 foot somthin alligators mess with em, hippos kill alligators all the time
yeah, hippos are totally friggin' sweet, they totally flip out and kill stuff ALL THE TIME! Man, hippos are so awesome, I want to crap my pants!!!11oneoneeleven1 Now that's what I call REAL ULTIMATE POWAR!
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If I remember correctly though, lions (and for that matter, most large felines) are pretty much sprinters; they pursue prey, use their paws/claws to latch onto their prey and bring them to the ground, and then kill the prey with their jaws. I dunno if a bear would just sit there dumbly while the lion ate him for lunch; a swipe from a bear paw would probably dislocate something important on the lion. Like I said, I'm pretty sure both would be horribly wounded. If I had to put my money on which one would die first though...probably the bear would "win."
Bears are big, but they're also damned fast. Grizzlies can sprint as fast as a horse, something they dont usually get credit for. Also lions are ambushers, they hide in the grass and sneak up from behind. Bears have a sense of smell far better than your average bloodhound, and excellent sight and hearing. Can't quite compare it to a water buffalo.
Actually i think it boils to what species of bear, and whether it's a male or female lion. Males have much more experience in fighting. Females hunt, and work together, where males fight/kill each other for power. And a polar bear is widely regarded as the most dangerous carnivore on earth, where as a black bear, is.. well... not really a polar bear.
<!--QuoteBegin-BloodySloth+Mar 12 2004, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BloodySloth @ Mar 12 2004, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bears are big, but they're also damned fast. Grizzlies can sprint as fast as a horse, something they dont usually get credit for. Also lions are ambushers, they hide in the grass and sneak up from behind. Bears have a sense of smell far better than your average bloodhound, and excellent sight and hearing. Can't quite compare it to a water buffalo.
Actually i think it boils to what species of bear, and whether it's a male or female lion. Males have much more experience in fighting. Females hunt, and work together, where males fight/kill each other for power. And a polar bear is widely regarded as the most dangerous carnivore on earth, where as a black bear, is.. well... not really a polar bear. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> black bears are the chiwawas of bears
I think it's either sun bears or malaysian black bears, they're smaller then western black bears but are more feared then tigers in parts of asia. Tigers are usually reclusive when it comes to people but the bears can be very aggressive, and are known to kill people somewhat often.
id go with the bear (assuming its not a litle balck bear or whatever), it has the size advantage, plus as already said loads of fat to get though before anything vital is exposed.
also, and im not sure about this, but my own cat is a fairly fragile thing (in terms of bones), and if you applied this to the lion, as they are kinda made for running, the bear (i think eveyone agrees the bear is the stronger of the two) would just have to take one good swipe at the lions head and its bye bye lion
well elephants are scared of mice because they can go up their trunk and suffocate them <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That's something I read though <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Mar 12 2004, 01:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Mar 12 2004, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've seen bears run in fear from house cats... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ive also seen When Animals Attack, where people get skinned alive by bears before getting their skull crushed like a melon in its jaws. Your point?
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(and don't pay attention to that fact/rumor stuff either, that's just refering to how the bear was killed - stories below anyway, but I wouldn't trust all of that)
That's what got passed around at Thanksgiving...or maybe it was Christmas.
I vote bear, if only because it can defend itself with more than just it's weight, unlike a Buffalo, who doesn't have claws or sharp teeth. Especially if it's the above bear.
Bears also hunt things besides fish...fish are just easiest (if salmon are swimming upstream and you can claw one out of mid-air, I'm sure you'd do it for food). They hunt deer and elk, and the occasional human mauling (even after getting shot).
Pack of Lions vs Bear would be closer, but I'll still go with the bear, unless it's just been dropped onto the savannah and has no idea what's going on.
Last I checked bears had very stiff, large necks, and wouldn't be able to defend well against a leap and bite attack. They have shorter, bigger paws that move too slowly to stop a leaping lioness (just about anything moves to slowly actually). So I would still put my money on the lion, simply because they often fight other predators in the wild, and are more accustomed to fighting for their lives.
Bears don't have natural predators, lions are hunted by hyenias, other lions and such.
but really i would think lion would pawn anything but polar bear or that big huge bear above....
and dont you guys remember that video they showed like 3 weeks ago in these very forums, where the hunter shoots the lion and it still takes a few swipes at him?
oh and the most dangerous and deadly animal in the world is(well, in hand to hand combat) is the hippo, those things pawn
the bear would win.
and while the only way to find out is to kidnap a tiger and a bear, then tell the other that theyve called eachother dorks, bears are huge big things.
theyre very powerful
lions go for things they can win - young, old, weak or diseased animals
when it comes to fighting, bears are much more aggressive, and just keep wading forward ignoring small wounds. so the lion would just try and swipe, or growl etc, maybe do a bit of small damage, [nothing major], then get one hit in the head and be down for the count... and then down for an autopsy [but then again, its fairly obvious what you died of if your entire head is caved in]
if the bear and the lion both wanted to fight, the bear would win.
anyway.. i'm going to say the lion just because no one seems to have faith in him. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
My god that thing is insanely large. What growth hormones did <b>IT</b> take...
True, if the lion could rip out the jugular it'd have a decent shot. But that's assuming that it could get close enough without being mangled. And have the strength to literally rip out that much meat from the bear, when lions usually tend to go for more grabbing and biting down to crush the windpipe and suffocate their prey. It'd be less likely to succeed, if it got past the claws, or the bear just falling on it. Clawing damage would have less effect on a bear with the extra fat carried around, unless hit in the eyes... but at that point the bear would be pretty screwed anyway.
Bunch of 'ifs' to result in the lion succeeding. I'd also say they'd just growl at each other a bit, then wander off their own ways, if they weren't MADE to fight.
Walrus vs Hippo... thats a tough one. On land the hippo has the greater manuverability, but in water the oposite is true... If they were to fight in some mythical medium which was sufficiently dense to take away the advantage, then I'd probably go with the walrus, because the hippo was (afaik) never the subject of any of lewis carol's writings.
Walrus vs Hippo... thats a tough one. On land the hippo has the greater manuverability, but in water the oposite is true... If they were to fight in some mythical medium which was sufficiently dense to take away the advantage, then I'd probably go with the walrus, because the hippo was (afaik) never the subject of any of lewis carol's writings. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
hippos would pawn, not even 20 foot somthin alligators mess with em, hippos kill alligators all the time
Now that's what I call REAL ULTIMATE POWAR!
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bears have a lot of tolerance for pain, though... refer back to them getting shot, etc.
the disadvantage of the lion is that there's an assload of meat to get through before you hit anything important in the neck. bears are big, man.
serious big.
Actually i think it boils to what species of bear, and whether it's a male or female lion. Males have much more experience in fighting. Females hunt, and work together, where males fight/kill each other for power. And a polar bear is widely regarded as the most dangerous carnivore on earth, where as a black bear, is.. well... not really a polar bear.
Actually i think it boils to what species of bear, and whether it's a male or female lion. Males have much more experience in fighting. Females hunt, and work together, where males fight/kill each other for power. And a polar bear is widely regarded as the most dangerous carnivore on earth, where as a black bear, is.. well... not really a polar bear. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
black bears are the chiwawas of bears
also, and im not sure about this, but my own cat is a fairly fragile thing (in terms of bones), and if you applied this to the lion, as they are kinda made for running, the bear (i think eveyone agrees the bear is the stronger of the two) would just have to take one good swipe at the lions head and its bye bye lion
That's something I read though <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Ive also seen When Animals Attack, where people get skinned alive by bears before getting their skull crushed like a melon in its jaws. Your point?