If ns was leaked...

Woggy · October 2002

<div class="IPBDescription">Would you download it?</div>If Natural Selection is leaked by a playtester, would you download it, or would you be a good fan <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> and wait for the release?

Well, I probably would <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
I must have NS! Argh! <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::skulk::'>

Silver_Fox · October 2002

If a PT leaked it, I'd find out who it was then drive to their house for a little chat.

Bill · October 2002

No, I'd rather wait for a finished product and play the game normal. Others mods I've waited patiently for have been leaked in the past and I didn't download them.

Carbon14 · October 2002

What ,you meant like a "chat" with a tyre iron <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Llama_Killer · October 2002

The group of pts Flayra and Company chose are extreemly trustworthy... It would be more probable that someone goes out and hijacks a plane to demand the RC than a playtester leeking it.

Silver_Fox · October 2002

Indeed.

I also forgot you need a pw to install it. You also cant start any servers unless you have the server files, whitch are also pwed (different). And, theres only 3 test servers - so if your not supposed to be there, you wont be for long ...

Carbon14 · October 2002

Glad to see that when it comes to NS absolutely everything is done in a proffesional manner <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Woggy · October 2002

Wow. Never knew things are so 'closed' <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

Necro · October 2002

i would download it, but never keep the leak going, the only reason i'd download it would be to end my curiosity and look around :O

but leaking = bad

Phoenix1 · October 2002

And how necro do you intend to just look around. Can't join a server and stay there for long, you need a password, and you need a password for the server files

Jops · October 2002

Lan

Fam · October 2002

No Jops. You cannot host a server. That includes hosting a LAN server.

Derfud · October 2002

I know for a fact that the server IS NOT, i repeat, is not passworded, i have seen NS games before, and with the program i use <a href="http://www.udpsoft.com/eye" target="_blank">The All seeing eye</a> I can see if a server is passworded or not, who's playing on it, and hack if i want to join it i'll just double click and it'll join me when a slot opens!
I also know that this is the server for playtesting, since i have seen Monse, and others on it.

MonsieurEvil · October 2002

It depends on the server. The main one is passworded. It's moot though, as we don't care about server passwording (that does not stop leaked games from starting up). In order to make real leaked copies you'd have have the server.dll, which only about 12 people have access to after an RC (all whom are ultra reliable).

DruBo · October 2002

I'd probably download a leaked copy, but not to try playing it; that'd probably just get me in trouble. Instead, I'd use HLMV, Wally, and GIMP to create some supar l33t desktop wallpapers.

Necro · October 2002

yea as i said if i did get a leak i would try 2 stop it infact the ONLY reason i would download it would be 2 check it out on my own.

DOOManiac · October 2002

all you people are saying you would DL a leaked copy to see what it is like, but you forget one vital fact:

a leaked copy is *NOT* a representation of the final product, because its not finished yet.

I don't understand idiots who download leaked copies of things then gripe when they don't work, or if something isn't as good as they expected. Its crazy. If, in this case NS, were finished and didn't have these problems, it would be out.

So for those of you er33t hax0rs who get leaked crap, remember what you are getting, and don't ##### when it isn't what you expected.

coil · October 2002

This post is hysterical.

Epoch · October 2002

No, but I'd tell Flayra that someone's been a naughty boy.

For those of you who say that you would download it but not continue the leak, downloading it in the first place is continuing the leak, and pretty soon it'll be; "Oh, well I think I'll just let me friend have it, and that's all...".

Anyway, I doubt such a scenario would ever happen, and it seems like if it did the Team has taken logical measures to ensure that it's not playable.

(However, don't you think the person who leaked the copy would leak the password as well?)

MonsieurEvil · October 2002

The only people with the ability to leak it (outside the team) would be the mappers, or the RC server ops. They would both stand to lose far more than they stand to gain.

Fam · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Oct. 11 2002,15:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The only people with the ability to leak it (outside the team) would be the mappers, or the RC server ops. They would both stand to lose far more than they stand to gain.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
They would lose their vitals, thanks to the crack PT-Retribution Ninja team.

Daxx · October 2002

Somebody find PyroWolf. I could see a great comic strip out of that.

Skrift · October 2002

No, I wouldn´t. That would be just plain <b>wrong</b>. I´ve never understood what´s so great about leaks. They´re incomplete and won´t be compatible with the final product.

Gibby · October 2002

Yeah I'd DL it111! Because I'm like that, impatient. Not like I'd be able to play it anywhere or do anything with it but I'd get l33t Irc pr0ps from my d00ds to be able to claim I got "NSz0rz" be-4 any-1 else got it11!

Seriously I wouldn't waste my bandwidth. Though I wouldn't worry too much if it DID get leaked. As far as "wrong" and "right" go, it's going to be free anyways, not like it's stealing, and one person with a leaked and probably incomplete copy is not going to ruin the fanatical PR blitz that Monse has planned.

Daxx · October 2002

Thank you Gibby, for not being serious there. You had me truly worried for a moment <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Seeing as I failed to actually post my opinion above, I shall now do so <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Lets see. Download a completely unplayable and pointless peice of software. (as it is, to people without authorization)

Hmmmm.

Big choice <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

I'm content to keep checking the ReadyRoom for updates and screenies. They keep me happy.

CollateralDamage · October 2002

Of course I would, just to see what happens. Leaks are like a preview. It might contain a working semi-tutorial or a half-finished manual, who knows.

And unless the copies contain a personal ID code, it would be impossible to find out who started the leak. The Internet is a pretty anonymous place, you know.

Necro · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CollateralDamage @ Oct. 11 2002,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Of course I would, just to see what happens. Leaks are like a preview. It might contain a working semi-tutorial or a half-finished manual, who knows.

And unless the copies contain a personal ID code, it would be impossible to find out who started the leak. The Internet is a pretty anonymous place, you know.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i think he said it best, just to see what u CAN find out aboot it, but i would under NO conditions would i ever leak...anyone that does...should be shot....multiple times! <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='::asrifle::'>

MonsieurEvil · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CollateralDamage @ Oct. 11 2002,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And unless the copies contain a personal ID code, it would be impossible to find out who started the leak.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I can neither confirm nor deny this.

DOOManiac · October 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CollateralDamage @ Oct. 11 2002,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Leaks are like a preview. It might contain a working semi-tutorial or a half-finished manual, who knows.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wrong wrong wrong. Game companies do NOT show the non-working parts of things (at least intentionally) to anyone, ever. Sometimes things mess up and they come out and say "ah well its a bug blah blah" but they never on purpose show something that they know is broken. Doing so is just stupid.

Also, and I speak from experience, it is relatively easy to find out who started a leak, especially in a tightly knit community (such as this one). And in some situations, leaking software could be considered illegal, and thus there could be legal ramifications. I'll laugh my ### off if I ever see some little hax0r get arrested (or sued at least) for uploading leaked things to various mediums.

So don't leak, mmkay?

DOOManiac · October 2002

<img src="http://johnb53.50megs.com/f/FlightOf/t/fotn031t.JPG" border="0">
<b>Navigator, I do not leak. You leak. Remember?</b>

sorry, just couldn't resist ^_^

Necro · October 2002

lol doom, i actually started a leak once <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

'was a cold saturday morning when i recieved dod b2.0

being young(er) and stupid(er) i decided 2 give it to a member of my clan, being young and stupid i trusted him. he decided to give it out to the rest of the clan AND 3 other clans :'(

*sigh* i'm never gonna make that mistake again.

leaks r eval <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

If ns was leaked...

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