Ns Still In Developement?

HighnoHighno Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25706Members
<div class="IPBDescription">nothing happens are you alive?</div> So as this is the beta stadium, regular updates should be usual, but it ain't. However, I see dozens of people complaining and giving solutions, but no developers saying anything to these thoughts.

Or is the feedback of a developer also a feature only for constellation members?

don't know are u still interested in the game?
I could understand why you don't want to go on with NS. I mean most of the bad gameplay is caused by the players not the game.

I stopped playing ns cause it wasn't fun anymore due to laming.
I'm wondering why the game rules haven't been fixed.

Sorry but i want to know whats up because its useless to waste my time in these forums when nobody pays attention.

Comments

  • SudzzSudzz Join Date: 2003-08-01 Member: 18663Members, Constellation
    edited February 2004
    Flayra is on vacation, I believe.
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    edited February 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Yet another victim of our 'Stop stupid pics!' - campaign.</span>
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Flayra will be back in four days. Have patience <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    edited February 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Your arbitrary pic was removed because it was an arbitrary pic, considering very little else. Now take your complaints into PM.</span>
  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Thought I'd pipe up and say... the game will never be lame-proof. No game with PEOPLE involved ever is.
  • CHAMoisCHAMois Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13339Members
    edited February 2004
    what

    <span style='color:white'>All I have to say is this: <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--></span>
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    rofl.



    On topic: Well, just have patience, flay will be back soon. Expect another build soon after <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • uberbrokeuberbroke Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2438Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Highno+Feb 22 2004, 10:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Highno @ Feb 22 2004, 10:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I stopped playing ns cause it wasn't fun anymore due to laming. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm yet to see ANY popular mutiplayer game which is not plagued by laming.

    If I were to not play ns because of laming, I wouldn't be playing any online games.
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    edited February 2004
    The developers <b>do</b> take note of what the people are suggesting. Just because you don't see them going, "Wow, this is neat, I might implement it!" doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it.

    Also, I believe Flayra is taking a vacation, so developation (RAWR COOL WORD) has halted for a bit, but trust me, it'll be back soon enough.
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    I think the problem for him is that NS is a <b>team</b> game (where teamwork really does matter), so he actually notices the lamers.
  • HighnoHighno Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25706Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well, just have patience, flay will be back soon. Expect another build soon after  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    kk then i'll be back soon with more complaining <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Oh and TFC is nearly lame free <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AnnihilatorAnnihilator Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21667Members
    edited February 2004
    Hmm i wonder what (edit) titanium (edit) was gonna say. Too bad that all his posts get edited for no reason... As for this thread, of course ns is still in developement, its a beta, and just because you arent pleased with the game doesnt mean the developers should immediatly drop everything and fix the problems YOU have with the game.

    <span style='color:white'>Let's leave that discussion up to Titanium and myself, shall we? He's more than capable of defending himself if he chooses to.</span>
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Annihilator+Feb 22 2004, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Annihilator @ Feb 22 2004, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hmm i wonder what (edit) titanium (edit) was gonna say. Too bad that all his posts get edited for no reason... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b><i>Ze Goggles! Zey do Nuthingk!</i></b>
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    things will get done when they get done, and it probably won't take to long
  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So as this is the beta stadium, regular updates should be usual, but it ain't. However, I see dozens of people complaining and giving solutions, but no developers saying anything to these thoughts.

    Or is the feedback of a developer also a feature only for constellation members?

    don't know are u still interested in the game?
    I could understand why you don't want to go on with NS. I mean most of the bad gameplay is caused by the players not the game.

    I stopped playing ns cause it wasn't fun anymore due to laming.
    I'm wondering why the game rules haven't been fixed.

    Sorry but i want to know whats up because its useless to waste my time in these forums when nobody pays attention.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Updates are coming as quick as the development team can complete them. With Flayra on vacation, there obviously is going to be a longer development time between Beta 3 and Beta 4. The developers read the forums and consider input, but considering the mass amounts of posts made on this forum daily you can't expect them to read and reply to everything. I'm unsure whether to take your comment regarding constellation members as sarcasm or idiocy, so I'll skip over it.

    The issue of troubles caused by players is easily sorted out by strict administrating of servers. If admins aren't doing their job, the game can quickly become unenjoyable. Thankfully enough, there are plenty of servers with dedicated admins that nullify this problem.

    Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "I'm wondering why the game rules haven't been fixed."
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    Why do people act like Flayra himself doesn't have a life?
  • WakeWake Join Date: 2003-03-05 Member: 14351Members, Constellation
    I can't believe this. The team is just out from a 3 monthes stressing session and delivered you 3.x AND Combat mode AND bunch of new maps etc ...

    What are YOU doing for this game huh ?
  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    I understand ignorance..but wow.
    First, If remember that 50% of most suggestions are invalid in either idiotcy, or just doing nothing to advance the game itself.
    Second, the remaining 50%... 40% of these ideas were already proposed at one time or another. Hell, I hardly browse the Suggestion forum anymore myself, just because I have already seen the same dang suggetsions OVER AND OVER.
    If I was a dev, I would only browse over it and look for threads that I have not already seen. There is no need to provide feedback on ideas already stated once.
    The remain 10% ideas are commented on by devs quite often. But even then most are still to heavily debated to get into the game.

    Its a hard process that requires a lot of INTELLIGENT USER FEEDBACK... which does not happen very often in these forums anymore.
    If you guys remember Martigen, I recall his huge post that pretty much shaped 2.0 from the user perspective. A lot of good solid feedback was there, and then the dev's commented on it.

    Try some good debate, and good ideas, and watch what happens.
  • HighnoHighno Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25706Members
    yeah what ever

    probably read before write

    bye for now cu at B4 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Feb 22 2004, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Feb 22 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think the problem for him is that NS is a <b>team</b> game (where teamwork really does matter), so he actually notices the lamers. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1st id like to say, mavrick, your avaitor purely ownes...
    2nd NS is to me, ENTIRELY a team game, going out alone without ppl to get in the way just isnt worth it when you can have the group firepower sticking together, unless of course, there idiots, but ill leave that out.
    3rd, The long time between updates is compleatatly understandable, ns isnt just some stupid game where the just put some crappy muskets, horrable maps, and pathetic modleing(gusse what game im talking about, not cs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) ns had most likely the massive **** load of coding in just the lerk and skulk alone. if you ask me, it will be another half decade before ns is realsed as a non-beta game for HL1, damn! ill be out of school by then!
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Hmm...you'd most likely not know what Flayra is doing himself unless you put yourself in his shoes, and I can tell you, it ain't a pretty life either trying to code a game for a very loooong time (2.0 made him VERY tired then)

    Flayra deserves some rest, I don't see how you people can think of Flayra as some robot that codes games 24/7, cut him some slack already

    If you really expect Flayra to do everything just for you....well, I can say you're very heartless <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Fro5tyFro5ty Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21238Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-rafIBT+Feb 23 2004, 05:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rafIBT @ Feb 23 2004, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Feb 22 2004, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Feb 22 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think the problem for him is that NS is a <b>team</b> game (where teamwork really does matter), so he actually notices the lamers. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1st id like to say, mavrick, your avaitor purely ownes...
    2nd NS is to me, ENTIRELY a team game, going out alone without ppl to get in the way just isnt worth it when you can have the group firepower sticking together, unless of course, there idiots, but ill leave that out.
    3rd, The long time between updates is compleatatly understandable, ns isnt just some stupid game where the just put some crappy muskets, horrable maps, and pathetic modleing(gusse what game im talking about, not cs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) ns had most likely the massive **** load of coding in just the lerk and skulk alone. if you ask me, it will be another half decade before ns is realsed as a non-beta game for HL1, damn! ill be out of school by then! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uhm, which mod are you talking about? FA or TFC? I truthfully don't give a damn about the time in between builds personally. I'm seeing these builds as BETAs and I'm a tester, like everyone else. Right now, I have figured out one of the causes of the mixed up sounds in the game. Like the HMG shooting like a shotgun, the pistol like a grenade launcher and the knife like an LMG. I'm currently looking for any bugs that I see and trying to figure out how they're done. Along with complaining about imbalance and all that. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Don't be so concerned about future builds as that many may anger you due to their changes. One of them right now is the spawn system, or in many cases lack there of. Just take the time to learn the game some more, get better with everything and come up with ideas to make the game more balanced.
  • ahhoahho Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13854Members
    flarya has taken a lot of our thought and implemented some of them into the game, so i don't see why anyone would complain
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    edited February 2004
    titianium got censored because he foolishly posted outside of the vet forums <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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