The Cheating In The Steam Beta Is Getting Horrible

Malakai1Malakai1 Join Date: 2003-09-14 Member: 20845Members
edited February 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">most notably the blatant aimbotting</div> When NS 3 is out of beta, will it be supported by VAC (vavle anti-cheat)? I use cheating death, but so few servers have it required <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->


I never really noticed any cheating previous to NS3, but now there is so much blatant aimbotting going on, it's horrible.


G4BTS is my favorite all combat server. This guy oits (a constellation member) was aimbotting to hell last night, for about 2 hrs straight on this one server, and not one admin was ever on to remove him. FYI there was no question what so ever, he WAS cheating.


<img src='http://malakai.motherboardfaqs.com/images/NS3hax.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

One of the guys on the server, WoZeR, went into spec to see through his eyes. He said oits would stand in the middle of a room and move in a circle, and everything in the room (from ceiling to floor) would die.

It's like this more and more, and it irritates me a little. We never had a problem with lamers and cheaters (much) before combat <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • romanoromano Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4296Members
  • Brad_RBrad_R pandas | brad Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8273Members, Constellation
    hax pax 2 teh max!~!~!~!~!
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Unless you have something along the lines of " yes I am a hacker" you have no right, or proof to claim that this person is a sure fire cheater.

    Its far more likely he was just very very good.
  • BergerBerger Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8945Members, Constellation
    Even more likely because he is a mystery pandas member.
  • Brad_RBrad_R pandas | brad Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8273Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Berger+Feb 15 2004, 04:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Berger @ Feb 15 2004, 04:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even more likely because he is a mystery pandas member. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i heard therye pretty bad tho
  • BiGBearKeithBiGBearKeith Join Date: 2003-04-24 Member: 15805Members
    edited February 2004
    As people have said before and i will say it again,

    "Just because people are better than you doesn't mean they are hackers, yes there are people that are better than u so don't just accuse them of hacking."
  • Malakai1Malakai1 Join Date: 2003-09-14 Member: 20845Members
    edited February 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-supernorn2000+Feb 15 2004, 05:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Feb 15 2004, 05:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Unless you have something along the lines of " yes I am a hacker" you have no right, or proof to claim that this person is a sure fire cheater.

    Its far more likely he was just very very good. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You can spectate people in NS. Iridium was very good, I was doing awesome. oits was aimbotting, plain and simple.

    There is no chance of being detected cheating right now, as VAC doesn't support NS.


    My question was, when 3.0 goes final, will it be supported by VAC?


    EDIT: Jesus people don't start a big flame war, I've been playing NS on and off since 1.x, I can tell the difference between someone who is really good, and someone aimbotting.
  • PneumaticCrabPneumaticCrab Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10133Members
  • BergerBerger Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8945Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-mcclane+Feb 15 2004, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mcclane @ Feb 15 2004, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Berger+Feb 15 2004, 04:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Berger @ Feb 15 2004, 04:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even more likely because he is a mystery pandas member. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i heard therye pretty bad tho <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh yeah, #team.mexico will crush them any day.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-romano^_^+Feb 15 2004, 05:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (romano^_^ @ Feb 15 2004, 05:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> comedy^2 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh. Welcome to NS. You've just met Otis.


    Otis dosn't hack. He <b>is</b> the hack. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Brad_RBrad_R pandas | brad Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8273Members, Constellation
    welcome to ns, romano
  • romanoromano Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4296Members
    what is this ns you speak of and where do i get it???
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    edited February 2004
    haha **** wrong account
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Whoops. My bad <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> Sorry <b>oits</b>


    (what is that? some kind of grain? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
  • porchaporcha Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20244Members
    i bet it was a #cri member, they're always hacking
  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    Hehe isn't otis the fat rent-a-cop from opposing force?
  • PneumaticCrabPneumaticCrab Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10133Members
    please pm cal|brad with any demos you have of oits cheating

    he can be found in #pandas on irc.gamesurge.net
  • Brad_RBrad_R pandas | brad Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8273Members, Constellation
    <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BergerBerger Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8945Members, Constellation
    Actually you should just post any demos you have here so that you can outline your expert review of his obvious hacking
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Or better yet have some cheese <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • uncKuncK Join Date: 2004-01-29 Member: 25714Members
    otis is hung like a horse
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-romano^_^+Feb 15 2004, 05:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (romano^_^ @ Feb 15 2004, 05:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what is this ns you speak of and where do i get it??? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "Waht si HL and can u downlaod it off kazaa?!?" - Pokemon747
    Wizard wars forum I believe. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    Oits is the most obnoxious NS player I've ever seen. I personally think he's just really good, but the 5 people spectating him all said he hacked.

    It was so obnoxious, he'd come on our server, go marine, and then head down to our spawn, and just camp outside. We couldn't even get close enough to bite him once. It's just not fun when the whole game is won by one person.

    Yup... really obnoxious.

    I can't spot aimbots myself (wall hacks I can, but if they aim well i normally just think they're good.)
  • Brad_RBrad_R pandas | brad Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8273Members, Constellation
    what a meanie <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CutterJoeCutterJoe Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11594Members, Constellation
    edited February 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-romano^_^+Feb 15 2004, 06:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (romano^_^ @ Feb 15 2004, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what is this ns you speak of and where do i get it??? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HA HA HA Romano thats pretty funny. You are one of the best players I have ever played with. If you need hax theres something terribly wrong. Actually malakai if oits was romano Im surprised his score wasnt much higher. Like daxx said Romano doesnt need hax, "he is the hac".
  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    Demo made from spectating him on the chemical-x server. I've played with really good players, I've watched them play, but I can't really say if he's aimbotting or not. Watch this and make up your own mind, or ask him to join a C-D server.

    note: you need to copy and paste the address, clicking on it will not work. also, don't download this unless you really want to see if he's hacking, if my bandwidth runs out, i'll hunt you down and murder your dog.

    <a href='http://www10.brinkster.com/pourout/oits.zip' target='_blank'>http://www10.brinkster.com/pourout/oits.zip</a>
  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    I have a demo of him on another server..And a stats page that links him to a member of panda....I dont really know..looks like he plays with 70+ sens and has perfect aim...even shoots though a wall (didnt kill the skulk) moves on then turns around 2 seconds later and kills the skulk
  • BergerBerger Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8945Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Psyke+Feb 15 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Psyke @ Feb 15 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It was so obnoxious, he'd come on our server, go marine, and then head down to our spawn, and just camp outside. We couldn't even get close enough to bite him once. It's just not fun when the whole game is won by one person. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How is it obnoxious for him to own you up and down? He's better than you, that's what happens when the skill gap is that large.
  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    heres the demo <a href='http://ns.bbs.us/downloads/demos/hacker.zip' target='_blank'>http://ns.bbs.us/downloads/demos/hacker.zip</a>
    and heres the hlstats link...You can see on one name hes god but on his panda name he doesnt do as good....maybe hes like me and has a little bro that tries to cheat hehe



    <a href='http://216.41.79.153/hlstats.php?mode=playerinfo&player=2472' target='_blank'>http://216.41.79.153/hlstats.php?mode=playerinfo&player=2472</a>
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    wow and this hasnt been locked yet despite the flame D:
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