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Demiguise · February 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">Yes i have read all that crap bout mdls</div> Please point me to some
Also what programs should i use to model
Easier way to make a bat file?

Jimmeh · February 2004

Read stickys and search before asking a quesiton.

As i said in your post in the artwork forum, i'm not going to do it for anyone if they can't be bothered to do it themselves.

Demiguise · February 2004

i have searched and read the Sticky about "So you want to make a...."
I found no help in this.
All i really need is a free program to make models. One thing i do have though is Lightwave, and i have no idea how to use it...

Phyco · February 2004

for a free program search for gmax

Jimmeh · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Demiguise @ Feb 13 2004, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i have searched and read the Sticky about "So you want to make a...."
I found no help in this.
All i really need is a free program to make models. One thing i do have though is Lightwave, and i have no idea how to use it...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
The sticky lists a few modelling programs.

esuna · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Demiguise @ Feb 13 2004, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i have searched and read the Sticky about "So you want to make a...."
I found no help in this.
All i really need is a free program to make models. One thing i do have though is Lightwave, and i have no idea how to use it...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Since you have no experience in modelling, i suggest you steer clear of big packages like 3DS MAX, Lightwave, Maya, etc. Admittedly they are all fantastic, but since you're a beginner, i suggest you start easier, the programs are extremely intricate.

Milkshape 3D (Linked in the sticky thread you apparently read) is very easy to use, and for it's extremely low price tag, quite powerful. Also, there are an abundance of tutorials (Linked in the thread you supposedly read) which detail step-by step a multitude of modelling points.

Other than Milkshape, there's GMAX. A severely cut down version of 3DS MAX which was released for free for the sole purpose of modelling for games. There is a link to the download in the thread you supposedly read, and also links to tutorials, once again in that thread you apparently read.

On the topic of the big 3D Packages, Discreet are offering a 30 day, full featured, trial of 3DS MAX, which is quite cool for playing around with, you might want to download it, it's only about 75mb (For the core files) and discreet also have a number of their own tutorials. You can download that from <a href='http://www.discreet.com/' target='_blank'>discreet.com</a>.

Demiguise · February 2004

Waht about wings 3d <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
Though i couldnt skin in that and i would have to ask someone to make the mesh and skin for me....

SRT_Rabb · February 2004

just download milkshape 3d get used to that and then later on move on to bigger and better programs like max

frostymoose · February 2004

you can unwrap perfectly fine in wings. In fact, all you have to do is tell it what edges to separate the UVs on and it does the rest for you. I'm not sure, however how you can apply a texture in it.

Chrono · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Demiguise @ Feb 13 2004, 11:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Please point me to some
Also what programs should i use to model
Easier way to make a bat file?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
i suggest you get the 3dsmax 6 30 day trial others say it might be too complicated for a newb but i dont think thats true
get the 30 day trial and all the turoial files and your all set...
heres a link to the files you need
<a href='http://nct.discreet.com/fulfill/0049.009/download/2004-c79ea89e90755468db43b18f71dd49bb-3' target='_blank'>MAX TRIAL!</a>

Phyco · February 2004

ya i started with max

and tbh i havent done a tutorial yet >_<

also you can *purchase* it like me

Chrono · February 2004

yes ofcourse we all *purchased* it (shifty eyes)

BAshh · February 2004

My advice is to learn Milkshape 3D and use it. 3D Studio Max is more powerful than MS3D, yes but it isn't geared toward gaming models. Max is harder to conserve polies in, as well it cost way too much if that's all you want it for. (thousands vs. $25) I personaly love using milkshape over any other program. Also if none of the tutorials listed get your fill, i suggest using google or yahoo to check for some, particularly on either planet halflife or planet quake. I'd stear you to one but i dont have them in my favorites for such perposes

jumpingjoda · February 2004

ok enough of *purchasing* or the thread will be closed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
i tryed many modeling programs, max, cinema4d, ms3d, ac3d, maya....
i like maya best, imo the navigation is terrible in max, i just didnt feel comfortable in it :/

BAshh · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jumpingjoda @ Feb 13 2004, 05:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ok enough of *purchasing* or the thread will be closed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
i tryed many modeling programs, max, cinema4d, ms3d, ac3d, maya....
i like maya best, imo the navigation is terrible in max, i just didnt feel comfortable in it :/  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
how would it be closed for speaking of purchasing?

MalambisBZ · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh @ Feb 13 2004, 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> My advice is to learn Milkshape 3D and use it. 3D Studio Max is more powerful than MS3D, yes but it isn't geared toward gaming models. Max is harder to conserve polies in, as well it cost way too much if that's all you want it for. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Lots of game companies use 3DSM. Blizzard Entertainment uses it in all their games, and in WarCraft 3 the models are very low poly.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>how would it be closed for speaking of purchasing?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It won't for purchasing, but it will be for *purchasing*.

BAshh · February 2004

just my experience that ms3d is easier

Phyco · February 2004

i have 3dsm milkshape and gmax

in my experience they are basically the same

the only difference is that they have buttons and stuff in different areas

but the <b>main</b> functions are the same

BAshh · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MalambisBZ @ Feb 13 2004, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>how would it be closed for speaking of purchasing?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
It won't for purchasing, but it will be for *purchasing*.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
oh ok. i missed the asterisks. whoops

GLFattyTheGorge · February 2004

I just have a quick question about modeling, is it the modelers job to skinmesh/extract the textures from a model?

Phyco · February 2004

no

but most people do

esuna · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BAshh @ Feb 13 2004, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jumpingjoda @ Feb 13 2004, 05:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ok enough of *purchasing* or the thread will be closed <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
i tryed many modeling programs, max, cinema4d, ms3d, ac3d, maya....
i like maya best, imo the navigation is terrible in max, i just didnt feel comfortable in it :/ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
how would it be closed for speaking of purchasing?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Because people aren't talking about actually buying it, they're talking about stealing software that costs the same as a second hand car. Yes, that's right. You may as well go steal a car than steal 3DS MAX, it's worth the same.

jumpingjoda · February 2004

you cant direclty compare car stealing and software piracy, and i dont mean it economicaly. well i wont say any word more about it here <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
back to topic plz

hmm i think it is modelers job to unwrap the uv's, its his model and it is also done in the same program(mostly)
the modeler knows his model best so it would be most efficient when he is doing it

Chrono · February 2004

well what i meant by *purchasing* was getting the 30 day trial i dont know what you all are talking about......
i also liked maya but i didnt know you could use it for games (**** me)
eh now im used to max and trust me once you get used to it its awsome

Phyco · February 2004

the only reason i dont use maya is cuz till now i just thought it to be an animation program

cuz i saw this show on techtv were there were computer animated short cartoons made in maya

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