If someone isnt capable of getting a spamm mail account where people can talk as much as they want, its his own fault if people ask him al the time.
Also he shoveled his own spamm grave by saying you are not allowed to change anything on my models, so people will mail you if they can change something.
Models for mods are freeware and they should stay freeware. My models for example: Do whatever you want with it (del i have to talk to you) they are free and they should stay free. The only thing i want is mentioned in the credits. And if someone is only modeling for a mod for beeing a cool person oh my. me for example is modeling because im going to make my own games in the future and im just gettin g more practise and as a result of that i release them so that others can use, test, and feedback them.
Just imagine brig would join a gamecompany he wouldnt have a nice day, i mean if THATs allready to much for him please never go into a pubklic company or get famous
Im getting more than enough mails about stuff i made (models, webcontent, art) but instead of getting angry i give a flying **** or even better feelíng honored that so many like waht im doing.
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> heh, so If I must believe all this, Brig quit becouse he got **** off on the spam he got? 2bad, as for the double lmg thing, 2bad it didnt work out :/
I don't blame Brig for leaving. This community has become significantly more immature since 3.0 was released. These forums resemble the CS forums too much now.
Uhhhhhh...I take it there's not much of a chance of this just being about the akimbo LMGs anymore. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-MalambisBZ+Feb 11 2004, 02:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MalambisBZ @ Feb 11 2004, 02:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't blame Brig for leaving. This community has become significantly more immature since 3.0 was released. These forums resemble the CS forums too much now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Since 3.0?
I honestly think people should pay more attention to the
M 17 ratings...think about how filtered the community will be...
CS included
Its not because of the violence I want the filters its because some people arnt mature enough to play online...
Any community somewhat linked to CS,. is gonna have CS players in it. And since we all know many CS players are the most immature out there.... its only logical to think that some NS players are also gonna be immature.
thats what it means to have freedom of speech. you can be stupid if you want, and others can yell at you for it. It doesnt matter if the community is goin downhill, you dont play for the community.. and if you do, you need to find a different hobby than online games. you play for fun, if the game is fun, you play.. end of story.
as for the whole model, I personally think it is a good idea , and the person who orignally made the model deserves mention, but they in no way have full control over it unless they copywrite it. And you still dont infinge copywrite laws unless you make a profit off of the material... so therefore, anyone saying you cant use my models cause they are mine, either has to show copywrite info, or butt out.
but yea, lengthen the clips, since lmg has 50 rnd clip, and hmg has 150... they are gonna need about 25 more bullets each.
sorry if this post sounds angry, but its more of informative, and expressing my opinions, not anger or flames.
Now i know im gonna get flames for this, but i dont care.. since tis jsut online anyways and it doesnt really matter what anyone thinks of me.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you dont play for the community.. and if you do, you need to find a different hobby than online games.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ...then what is the point of the forums? especially if we aren't playing the game FOR the community... why even host a community at all?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the person who orignally made the model deserves mention, but they in no way have full control over it unless they copywrite it. And you still dont infinge copywrite laws unless you make a profit off of the material... so therefore, anyone saying you cant use my models cause they are mine, either has to show copywrite info, or butt out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> somone hasn't read up on intelectual property rights... something i deam up (and make) is property of me, and you aren't allowed to take it without asking. that's stealing. and yes, its still stealing if you cite your source. Books have different rules, but objects... even with sources correct... without permission, its stealing.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now i know im gonna get flames for this<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> it's worse when it's a forum moderator isn't it? even when the moderator is being just as "informative" as you are.
<!--QuoteBegin-Dillinja+Feb 11 2004, 01:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dillinja @ Feb 11 2004, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> also if that is brigs reason why he left hes childish <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree on alot of that, I mean thats just a waste of talent, I dont know what hes doing in the navy when he has so much potential, I'd be game designing :\
Brig stated that he didin't want his models stolen so that dosen't give you any reason to release this even though brig left I think Brig did right thing by not giving us models anymore serves us right.
<!--QuoteBegin-Anime Tentacle Monster+Feb 11 2004, 07:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anime Tentacle Monster @ Feb 11 2004, 07:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MalambisBZ+Feb 11 2004, 02:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MalambisBZ @ Feb 11 2004, 02:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't blame Brig for leaving. This community has become significantly more immature since 3.0 was released. These forums resemble the CS forums too much now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since 3.0?
I honestly think people should pay more attention to the
M 17 ratings...think about how filtered the community will be...
CS included
Its not because of the violence I want the filters its because some people arnt mature enough to play online... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's not as bad as CS forums yet (i know because i'm one of the spamming SOB's that frequent there) but it has gotten worse.
Also the whole M rating... that's a whole 'nother story...
And this is my last post in this thread, i just wanted to appologize if any of my comments came off as flames. A tad heated yes, but it torques me to see such niiave and ignorant comments/actions.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thats what it means to have freedom of speech. you can be stupid if you want, and others can yell at you for it. It doesnt matter if the community is goin downhill, you dont play for the community.. and if you do, you need to find a different hobby than online games. you play for fun, if the game is fun, you play.. end of story.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Incorrect
Communities are a vital part of online game play. You see without humans to play there is no online play involved; If there is its extremely boring.
When the community is part of the game it is bad when you have a bunch of people who are too young to begin with playing. They dont have a full grasp of social grace that most people over the desired age do have. In thus they RUIN the game play for everyone else...what ruins it? the Community...if you have a bunch of people who should still be playing with GI Joes playing then the game wont be fun. You DO play for the community because the Community is a necessary part of online gaming.
You play for fun if the community sucks the game will suck therefor you want a good community with the game.
There's a catch here, this ISNT to say your supposed to be a bunch of yuppy choir boys who get insulted if someone curses. Its just called being mature about everything; not throwing your nintendo paddle at a wall when mario falls in a pit.
Obviously you all took that the wrong way. You dont play games for other people, you start playing a game for yourself. If you dont like the community, you stop playing, and find another game, OR you get over it. Whining has almost never solved anything, and in most cases, made things worse. i stopped communicating with the CS community, and jsut played the game. now ive quit Cs and moved to NS.
As for the whole copywrite thing, no i dont know what intellectual copywrite things are, but i do know that you need to get a copywrite on anything for it to be "yours". Otherwise, the government controls everything. And as for ideas, if you share them with others, thay arent really yours anymore. Unless you can prove (with a copywrite) that you had it first, somone else can say it was theirs, so therefore nothing is truly yours unless its in writing.
And i dont really see your post as flames Del, jsut as correcting things you thought were wrong, that i dont. Youve got a different opinion on things than me, and im fine with that, As long as you dont try to force me to have your opinions.
Now, how bout we stop this heated discussion, and get back to what the post was for... the model. Cause i think were way off topic.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Obviously you all took that the wrong way. You dont play games for other people, you start playing a game for yourself. If you dont like the community, you stop playing, and find another game, OR you get over it. Whining has almost never solved anything, and in most cases, made things worse. i stopped communicating with the CS community, and jsut played the game. now ive quit Cs and moved to NS.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you play the game your playing with the CS community...thats all Im saying.
I said nothing about Whining in fact thats one of the things I dispise about most FPS there is far too much of it.
Secondly it still can be stated that the community can ruin a game. I've stopped playing some games because the community is annoying not because the game is boring.
So if you want the community to dictate what you play thats fine with me, I however would rather the communities grow up so we can all get along; but as long as you let people to whom Puberty is a new thing play games meant for adults I dont think were gonna see that happen.
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Also he shoveled his own spamm grave by saying you are not allowed to change anything on my models, so people will mail you if they can change something.
Models for mods are freeware and they should stay freeware. My models for example:
Do whatever you want with it (del i have to talk to you) they are free and they should stay free. The only thing i want is mentioned in the credits. And if someone is only modeling for a mod for beeing a cool person oh my. me for example is modeling because im going to make my own games in the future and im just gettin g more practise and as a result of that i release them so that others can use, test, and feedback them.
Just imagine brig would join a gamecompany he wouldnt have a nice day, i mean if THATs allready to much for him please never go into a pubklic company or get famous
Im getting more than enough mails about stuff i made (models, webcontent, art) but instead of getting angry i give a flying **** or even better feelíng honored that so many like waht im doing.
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Since 3.0?
I honestly think people should pay more attention to the
M 17 ratings...think about how filtered the community will be...
CS included
Its not because of the violence I want the filters its because some people arnt mature enough to play online...
thats what it means to have freedom of speech. you can be stupid if you want, and others can yell at you for it. It doesnt matter if the community is goin downhill, you dont play for the community.. and if you do, you need to find a different hobby than online games. you play for fun, if the game is fun, you play.. end of story.
as for the whole model, I personally think it is a good idea , and the person who orignally made the model deserves mention, but they in no way have full control over it unless they copywrite it. And you still dont infinge copywrite laws unless you make a profit off of the material... so therefore, anyone saying you cant use my models cause they are mine, either has to show copywrite info, or butt out.
but yea, lengthen the clips, since lmg has 50 rnd clip, and hmg has 150... they are gonna need about 25 more bullets each.
sorry if this post sounds angry, but its more of informative, and expressing my opinions, not anger or flames.
Now i know im gonna get flames for this, but i dont care.. since tis jsut online anyways and it doesnt really matter what anyone thinks of me.
...then what is the point of the forums? especially if we aren't playing the game FOR the community... why even host a community at all?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the person who orignally made the model deserves mention, but they in no way have full control over it unless they copywrite it. And you still dont infinge copywrite laws unless you make a profit off of the material... so therefore, anyone saying you cant use my models cause they are mine, either has to show copywrite info, or butt out.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
somone hasn't read up on intelectual property rights... something i deam up (and make) is property of me, and you aren't allowed to take it without asking. that's stealing. and yes, its still stealing if you cite your source. Books have different rules, but objects... even with sources correct... without permission, its stealing.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Now i know im gonna get flames for this<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
it's worse when it's a forum moderator isn't it? even when the moderator is being just as "informative" as you are.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree on alot of that, I mean thats just a waste of talent, I dont know what hes doing in the navy when he has so much potential, I'd be game designing :\
Since 3.0?
I honestly think people should pay more attention to the
M 17 ratings...think about how filtered the community will be...
CS included
Its not because of the violence I want the filters its because some people arnt mature enough to play online... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's not as bad as CS forums yet (i know because i'm one of the spamming SOB's that frequent there) but it has gotten worse.
Also the whole M rating... that's a whole 'nother story...
And this is my last post in this thread, i just wanted to appologize if any of my comments came off as flames. A tad heated yes, but it torques me to see such niiave and ignorant comments/actions.
oh and good luck on creating your dual LMG hmg
Incorrect
Communities are a vital part of online game play. You see without humans to play there is no online play involved; If there is its extremely boring.
When the community is part of the game it is bad when you have a bunch of people who are too young to begin with playing. They dont have a full grasp of social grace that most people over the desired age do have. In thus they RUIN the game play for everyone else...what ruins it? the Community...if you have a bunch of people who should still be playing with GI Joes playing then the game wont be fun. You DO play for the community because the Community is a necessary part of online gaming.
You play for fun if the community sucks the game will suck therefor you want a good community with the game.
There's a catch here, this ISNT to say your supposed to be a bunch of yuppy choir boys who get insulted if someone curses. Its just called being mature about everything; not throwing your nintendo paddle at a wall when mario falls in a pit.
/rant
As for the whole copywrite thing, no i dont know what intellectual copywrite things are, but i do know that you need to get a copywrite on anything for it to be "yours". Otherwise, the government controls everything. And as for ideas, if you share them with others, thay arent really yours anymore. Unless you can prove (with a copywrite) that you had it first, somone else can say it was theirs, so therefore nothing is truly yours unless its in writing.
And i dont really see your post as flames Del, jsut as correcting things you thought were wrong, that i dont. Youve got a different opinion on things than me, and im fine with that, As long as you dont try to force me to have your opinions.
Now, how bout we stop this heated discussion, and get back to what the post was for... the model. Cause i think were way off topic.
If you play the game your playing with the CS community...thats all Im saying.
I said nothing about Whining in fact thats one of the things I dispise about most FPS there is far too much of it.
Secondly it still can be stated that the community can ruin a game. I've stopped playing some games because the community is annoying not because the game is boring.
So if you want the community to dictate what you play thats fine with me, I however would rather the communities grow up so we can all get along; but as long as you let people to whom Puberty is a new thing play games meant for adults I dont think were gonna see that happen.
OMG THANK YOU!!!!
of course your gonna hijack a thread when there is questionable content in it.
flames and hijacking.