Help On Learning How To Actully Model!

Demoncinder · February 2004

i have just got gmax and now i have no idea how to model..id rather model than skin..soo is there anything or anyone out ther who could help out a n00b modeler PLZ?! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' />

Jimmeh · February 2004

I'm tired of saying this, so i'm not going to bother getting the link.

Stickys.

QUAD · February 2004

Get in line bud, wannabe modelers who expect help are dime a dozen. If you're incapable of going out there and finding help yourself and actually working to get good, you probably don't have what it takes to be a modeler.

BAshh · February 2004

In addition to what's previously said, I would personally suggest you get Milkshape3d and use that, not gmax. More game-compatible, as well as you get a better sense of what you're doing instead of creating extrutions of splines that form horriblly placed polygons. so go to www.milkshape3d.com and get milkshape, then check the webbed topics above for usefull tutorials, there are hundreds listed.

Demoncinder · February 2004

thx i guess your right i probly shoulda looked thx
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /> me = stupid.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Maus · February 2004

Also, though Milkshape requires you to pay for it after 30 days' use, it's really very cheap ($25 I think at the moment) and it's the easiest program to learn on if you're wanting to make game models, imo.

BAshh · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Feb 2 2004, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Also, though Milkshape requires you to pay for it after 30 days' use, it's really very cheap ($25 I think at the moment) and it's the easiest program to learn on if you're wanting to make game models, imo.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
as well the second best program is 3dsm and is about 2/300 times as much as MS3D. I'm sure it's 25 atm as well.

Demoncinder · February 2004

one more quick question...im looking for a gun modeling tutrioal..ive found a character modeler tutrial... is this relativly the same thing as a gun modeling tutrial or no?

<a href='http://milkshape3d.com/' target='_blank'>http://milkshape3d.com/</a> and go to Making a model for half life by Rat is this a good model tutorial or can u recommend me somthing? (really for gun modeling cuz really thats what i wanna do and i have not found one on this site)

BAshh · February 2004

check the stickies for tutorials, there are billions listed

Demoncinder · February 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> bash i did there was no tutrial for gun modeling there! it was all character modeling!!!!! and most of those links are dead anywaY!!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' />

BAshh · February 2004

well sorry then, didnt know that. Search in google then if you are hard pressed for using a tutorial.

Demoncinder · February 2004

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> mannnn...*pouts in corner* ill look thx anyway...

funbags · February 2004

whats with you guys? why cant you just help him? I stopped modeling because you guys wont help anybody. I got into mapping, and the guys over there are great. i ask a question, they answer it in a helpfull way. ive already got half the map done, and i started 3 days ago.

Help him out, you were a n00b too, once.

BAshh · February 2004

Well I personally just screwed around untill i figured it out, never really needed help. And what i did get from tutorials were random ones found with google and or yahoo, which is why i suggested that. Besides you most likely had specific questions. Ambiguous ones like how do i model like this, get ambiguous answers, sorry.

I suggest getting to know MS3D before trying to model anything specific. Then once you start to model, What I do is take a profile picture of the gun i want to model, make a cube, then extrude where i need to. It also helps to have the 3d viewport in flatshade becuase shading groups are screwed up when you extrude.

Private_Coleman · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>whats with you guys? why cant you just help him? I stopped modeling because you guys wont help anybody. I got into mapping, and the guys over there are great. i ask a question, they answer it in a helpfull way. ive already got half the map done, and i started 3 days ago.

Help him out, you were a n00b too, once. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Truer words have never been said. I desperately wanted to model but you guys didnt help me at all. Now I've gotta map instead and that dream has died. The mapping forum actually do answer questions, unlike this one.

Here's me shooting non helpful people:
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' />

I'm sorry but thats just how I feel and nothing can change that.

jumpingjoda · February 2004

im noob too, but i try to find something by my own instead of asking everything.
the answer may be the first search result on google! just try it damn....
btw its alot faster to find some tutorials then asking for them! some people are just too lazy.

BAshh · February 2004

I think the whole we dont give advice is blown out of proportion. I mean, if you have a specific question about something in MS3D, like shading group problems, or something that's a little less ambiguous than how do i model, then a better answer then 'tutorials' will be supplied. I have no problem with helping someone out, that is if they already know partially what they are doing. It's just too much of a hassle to try and explain EVERYTHING to someone, let alone everyone, who wants to learn how to model. Like I could start throwing out what I do, but then the beginner would be lost trying to follow me. So again, i suggest finding some tutorials (I'll find some GOOD ones for you here in a minute) learning the basics of MS3D and then try some gun modelling, then if you need help, we will.

<a href='http://www.psionic3d.co.uk/tutorials/lowpoly/mbasics.html' target='_blank'>Milkshape Basics</a>
<a href='http://www.psionic3d.co.uk/lowtuts.html' target='_blank'>page of tuts</a>(first one is linked above)

I cant find much more right now... read the basics one right now. and then, try a gun with my method, a right or left view of the gun, make a box and extrude where needed.

QUAD · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Feb 2 2004, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> whats with you guys? why cant you just help him? I stopped modeling because you guys wont help anybody. I got into mapping, and the guys over there are great. i ask a question, they answer it in a helpfull way. ive already got half the map done, and i started 3 days ago.

Help him out, you were a n00b too, once.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I was indeed a noob once. And instead of asking another to "teach me how to model" (which isn't even possible), I went out and got a program, looked up some tutorials, and practiced. I never once expected help from anyone but myself, and if you're serious about learning to model you should expect the same.

Drfuzzy · February 2004

models.firearmsmod.com has the best tutorials to start out with. i suggest starting with converting models so you get to know how a model would generaly run, then learn how to model yourself. milkshape 3d is 900000x easier to learn than any other program (in my opinion)

also there is NO tutorial that will show you how to actualy put a model into a game, so i suggest you listen to what i just said.

BAshh · February 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DR_FUZZY @ Feb 2 2004, 07:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> models.firearmsmod.com has the best tutorials to start out with. i suggest starting with converting models so you get to know how a model would generaly run, then learn how to model yourself. milkshape 3d is 900000x easier to learn than any other program (in my opinion)  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
i wouldnt say that. It's hard to learn, easy to use once you do.

Drfuzzy · February 2004

well thats how i learned. only took me a year, about 1 month of actualy trying.

Daza4 · February 2004

I learnt how to model from expreience, just trying out stuff until i got it.

Bashh is right you can't just teach someone how to model you have to find out your self, its like saying how teh fuxor do i type so fastoz, simple PRACTICE. To find something you firstly should do:
Check stickies
Search
Use a search engine
THEN POST And how many times hav ei seen people say in their topic "OMG I LOKED EVRYWHERE!! FF!!" When they just looked at the front page, this isn't a flame. Its the truth.

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