Hive Bug?

NEO_Phyte

<div class="IPBDescription">not sure if this is best description</div> i found this bug over 2 games on the same server. same map both times (ns_tanith) <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

EDIT:: ns3.0 b2

anyway, the first game went fine (i rushed to camp the vent in SatComm as a gorge) <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo-->
after i got the res i dropped a hive.. yadda yadda... aliens won with 2 complete hives with the third going up <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

next round, i do same thing, but i noticed that for some reason, i could use my hive 2 abilites when we only had one hive <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> . i asked my teammates if they had it too, but i got no answers.
after i put up hive we ended up losing that hive again, and then i lost the ability. it worked normally after that

as an alien, i kinda like this bug <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> , but for the sake of balance i am reporting it
also, if it happens again, i will try to get a decent screenshot to post

edit:: added map name

l3igD

Was you able to use them?...sometimes it lets you equip it but you cannot use it...

NEO_Phyte

i could use it, and it wasnt red in the weapon-selection thingy

devicenull

Can you try again?
How do we reproduce this?
After you died, were the abilities still there?

The map sounds like ns_tanith... and I know there seem to be some problems with ns mode..

This could be related to the bug where your weapons start out greyed out

NEO_Phyte

i could try, but in a pub game it would be hard to get a similar game

to reproduce, i would suggest playing ns_tanith twice without the server timing out, and having the aliens win the first round with a third hive going up.

the server was either::

gamenstein.com #1 NS 3.0 B2 (non-combat maps only) 69.56.246.58:27020
Games-Fed NS 3.0 beta 2 62.93.232.12:27016
[.Simnet.]-[Natural Selection v3.0] 1 194.105.226.116:27025

(for reproduction efforts)
in the first round, i rushed to satcomm's vent, gorged, and safely dropped restower from vent. a rine came in and killed it (i suxxor with spit <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), but by then the other hive (waste processing i think) was going up, so i just waited for bilebomb. when i got it, i killed the rines restower and recapped the node, and dropped a hive. before the hive was done, the round was over.
in the second round, i basicly did the same thing, and while setting up to cover resnode from vent, i realised i had bilebomb WORKING WITH ONE HIVE. due to my ventcamping, i didnt die until after the second hive was up, but bilebomb was disabled/reenabled properly during the fight over satcomm as the hive was destroyed and rebuilt (i used 120 res on that damn hive)

also, like i said in the first post, i did ask my teammates if they had their two-hive abilities, but nobody responded to me. if any of them did have it, please post!!

BTW: i was either named after my forum name, or i was "The_Neophyte"
BTW2: alot of this would be easier if i knew i would have been posting this when i experienced it, because then i would have recorded information

devicenull

I think this is related to bug <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0000497' target='_blank'>#497</a>
It would seem the server is dropping a packet somewhere (Possibly sending it in the unreliable stream, and having it dropped)

They both have weapons either shown/hidden when the next game starts

NEO_Phyte

that could be, but it was letting me actually use it, so it could be a different bug.

Immacolata

I'm not seeing any progress on this, so I'm moving it to the open beta forum now. If you find some fool proof evidence that is reproduceable, please come back and submit a bug here.<span style='color:red'>**** PHASED</span>

NEO_Phyte

i need help to try to verify this bug
i tried to do a solo server, but hives go up to fast with cheats <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

does anyone know of a server where the players would be willing to help out or of a server dedicated to finding bugs

dunno

I've experienced this bug before once in v2.0. Was able to leap as a skulk as well as use xenocide at the start of a round (after winning previous round as aliens), although xenocide only played the sound effect but you didn't actually blow up. Didn't get to try it with other lifeforms though. Some other players were able to do it too. Never seen it happen again since then, though.

NEO_Phyte

that sounds about right
did aliens win the previous round with all three hives??

dunno

Yup, had three hives the previous round. Also, this was on ns_cage, though I don't remember the server.

NEO_Phyte

did you by any chance grab a screenshot of it??

and the map prolly doesnt matter, but at this stage you never know

NEO_Phyte

i just played some ns, but was unable to test for bug, as most servers seem to changelevel after one game.
does anyone know of a server where they have a decent timelimit so same map can be played 2+ times without changing maps?
or a bugtest server?

NEO_Phyte

it was just freaking me out that this has stayed on the bottom of the first page for so long without any new posts, so <b>*bump*</b>

still no luck on seeing bug again, but havent found server with large enough round time yet either