<div class="IPBDescription">Anyone come across these guys....</div> before? "Gumisie Hacking Team" The have basically done <a href='http://www.nubreaks.com/' target='_blank'>THIS</a> to a website I visit. Also I was wondering what language is that?
I think it's funny when hackers deface websites.....Kinda cool in a way...I suppose. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-DuBERS+Jan 31 2004, 04:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 31 2004, 04:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> before? "Gumisie Hacking Team" The have basically done <a href='http://www.nubreaks.com/' target='_blank'>THIS</a> to a website I visit. Also I was wondering what language is that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> just a guess... polish?
Near the end it shows the url of a site with .pl at the end. Anyone know what country pl would stand for? All I can think of is Poland.
Nice little tune they have in the background though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Nothing really impressive, to be honest. For years upon years, websites have been hacked, even readyroom.org / Jarhedz was recently hacked... It's past being "cool" or something, it's an irritation, and most of the time these days it's just kids wanting attention.
Hackers have reached the lowest of the low. They want to think they are cool, but the fun is over, you see a hacked site and think "poor Owners" nowadays rather than "Cool 1337 H4X0rZez!"
Its wearing rather thin, and with these massively widespread worms its getting more and more annoying...
oh noes!!! the gummi bears have turned to hacking @.@ next the little mermaid will turn to selling her virginity on the net for £10,000 and the seven dwarves will turn to hijacking planes.
I couldn't connect to the site but could someone give a sample of the text so I can start guessing of its origins too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Dread+Jan 31 2004, 04:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Jan 31 2004, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I couldn't connect to the site but could someone give a sample of the text so I can start guessing of its origins too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Been taken down, probably to upload their backups.
<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Jan 31 2004, 02:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Jan 31 2004, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> oh noes!!! the gummi bears have turned to hacking @.@ next the little mermaid will turn to selling her virginity on the net for £10,000 and the seven dwarves will turn to hijacking planes.
~hides from disney's reign of terror~ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And once again, Geminosity, master of the dismantling of mental images, childhood memories, and cultural icons, strikes...
On topic, honestly, I'm starting to get annoyed by such black hat 'hackers'. It's not even funny anymore, not to mention that these guys tend to flail out uncontrallably at any low-security site they can find, much like a young chimp trying to stick various body parts in every treehole in its forest. I know there are ideologically ept hackers - take the Choas Computer Club as example -, and it's a shame they are forced to share their description with such screw-ups.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jan 31 2004, 12:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 31 2004, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I know there are ideologically ept hackers - take the Choas Computer Club as example -, and it's a shame they are forced to share their description with such screw-ups. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then there are those old school hackers (the origional ones) who all they say they ever did was break into a system to simply see if they could do it. Then they would snoop around and leave. Not neccisarily to cause damage etc.
What ever, either way you are breaking into someone elses stuff. People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Jan 31 2004, 06:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Jan 31 2004, 06:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> next the little mermaid will turn to selling her virginity on the net for £10,000 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> do you know where i can bid..?
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<!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Jan 31 2004, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Jan 31 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hackers vs. crackers hacker is in it for the challenge cracker is malicious <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe you should differentiate between haxors and craxors
because the word cracker is already taken as a description of someone. lol
<!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Feb 1 2004, 04:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Feb 1 2004, 04:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gwahir+Jan 31 2004, 12:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gwahir @ Jan 31 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hackers vs. crackers hacker is in it for the challenge cracker is malicious <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe you should differentiate between haxors and craxors
because the word cracker is already taken as a description of someone. lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Pfft. A word being "taken" has never stopped anything before.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cpl.Davis+Jan 31 2004, 06:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jan 31 2004, 06:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What ever, either way you are breaking into someone elses stuff. People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Erm... A representative of the CCC is the German emissary in the ICANN...
'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information. To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 31 2004, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...it's a shame they are forced to share their description with such screw-ups. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's a shame that HUMANITY is forced to share our description with those screw-ups.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jan 31 2004, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 31 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cpl.Davis+Jan 31 2004, 06:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jan 31 2004, 06:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What ever, either way you are breaking into someone elses stuff. People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Erm... A representative of the CCC is the German emissary in the ICANN...
'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information. To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes I am aware of the many hackers that are also imployed by various corporations to find security loopholes for their stuff etc. kudos to them.
But unfortuatly there also many hackers who do it with no intent of helping their "victems" Those that do it simply to spy around.
The ones, trying to see what they can get into, without the companys knowing or permission. and accessing things they shouldnt be seeing to begin with. The ones who do this simply b/c they can and then dont tell the people about it.
Would you really want other strangers sneaking up to your house at night and peeking in all your windows just so they can try to see what they can? Even if he is an emmisary to a comapny like the Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers, or any other company for example?
Thats what i was trying to get across in my first post <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Cpl.Davis+Jan 31 2004, 10:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jan 31 2004, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jan 31 2004, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 31 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cpl.Davis+Jan 31 2004, 06:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Jan 31 2004, 06:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What ever, either way you are breaking into someone elses stuff. People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Erm... A representative of the CCC is the German emissary in the ICANN...
'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information. To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes I am aware of the many hackers that are also imployed by various corporations to find security loopholes for their stuff etc. kudos to them.
But unfortuatly there also many hackers who do it with no intent of helping their "victems" Those that do it simply to spy around.
The ones, trying to see what they can get into, without the companys knowing or permission. and accessing things they shouldnt be seeing to begin with. The ones who do this simply b/c they can and then dont tell the people about it.
Would you really want other strangers sneaking up to your house at night and peeking in all your windows just so they can try to see what they can? Even if he is an emmisary to a comapny like the Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers, or any other company for example?
Thats what i was trying to get across in my first post <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Those are not hackers. Those are malicious security breakers, known among many other things as "crackers". And yes, I'm aware of the other definition of that word. Deal with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jan 31 2004, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 31 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information. To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not even then Nem. Can we say Lamo ?
We were not talking abnout the legal status of their actions here, nobody disputes <i>that</i>. We were discussing the morallic value of it, and as your quote shows, that's a rather undecided topic.
The hackers that break in without permission, whether or not they cause damage are legaly and morally wrong. The hackers that break in without permission and then tell the company how they did it and what they can do to stop it, are legally wrong but morally right (but only if they tell the company how to stop it). The hackers that are employed by companies to try to break into their systems and then tell them how to stop it, are legally and morally right. They are using thier skills for the good of other people and so need to be recognised and rewarded for their efforts.
(Insert inevitable link to The Jargon File <a href='http://info.astrian.net/jargon/How_Jargon_Works/Crackers_Phreaks_and_Lamers.html' target='_blank'>here</a>)
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Nothing "hacker" about it.
just a guess... polish?
Nice little tune they have in the background though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Hackers have reached the lowest of the low. They want to think they are cool, but the fun is over, you see a hacked site and think "poor Owners" nowadays rather than "Cool 1337 H4X0rZez!"
Its wearing rather thin, and with these massively widespread worms its getting more and more annoying...
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next the little mermaid will turn to selling her virginity on the net for £10,000 and the seven dwarves will turn to hijacking planes.
~hides from disney's reign of terror~
Been taken down, probably to upload their backups.
next the little mermaid will turn to selling her virginity on the net for £10,000 and the seven dwarves will turn to hijacking planes.
~hides from disney's reign of terror~ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And once again, Geminosity, master of the dismantling of mental images, childhood memories, and cultural icons, strikes...
On topic, honestly, I'm starting to get annoyed by such black hat 'hackers'. It's not even funny anymore, not to mention that these guys tend to flail out uncontrallably at any low-security site they can find, much like a young chimp trying to stick various body parts in every treehole in its forest.
I know there are ideologically ept hackers - take the Choas Computer Club as example -, and it's a shame they are forced to share their description with such screw-ups.
Then there are those old school hackers (the origional ones) who all they say they ever did was break into a system to simply see if they could do it. Then they would snoop around and leave. Not neccisarily to cause damage etc.
What ever, either way you are breaking into someone elses stuff.
People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts.
hacker is in it for the challenge
cracker is malicious
do you know where i can bid..?
>_>
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hacker is in it for the challenge
cracker is malicious <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe you should differentiate between haxors and craxors
because the word cracker is already taken as a description of someone. lol
hacker is in it for the challenge
cracker is malicious <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe you should differentiate between haxors and craxors
because the word cracker is already taken as a description of someone. lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pfft. A word being "taken" has never stopped anything before.
People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Erm... A representative of the CCC is the German emissary in the ICANN...
'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information.
To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad.
It's a shame that HUMANITY is forced to share our description with those screw-ups.
People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Erm... A representative of the CCC is the German emissary in the ICANN...
'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information.
To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes I am aware of the many hackers that are also imployed by various corporations to find security loopholes for their stuff etc. kudos to them.
But unfortuatly there also many hackers who do it with no intent of helping their "victems" Those that do it simply to spy around.
The ones, trying to see what they can get into, without the companys knowing or permission. and accessing things they shouldnt be seeing to begin with. The ones who do this simply b/c they can and then dont tell the people about it.
Would you really want other strangers sneaking up to your house at night and peeking in all your windows just so they can try to see what they can?
Even if he is an emmisary to a comapny like the Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers, or any other company for example?
Thats what i was trying to get across in my first post <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
People need to stop trying to glorify there illegal acts. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Erm... A representative of the CCC is the German emissary in the ICANN...
'White Hat' Hackers may be committing illegal actions, but they are far from morallically wrong, in fact, many of their 'victims' appreciate their work, as such hackers tend to offer their findings of security holes to their targets, thus acting like a highly specialized warning system. Many early hackers are now the leading heads in net politics, supporting the ideal of a free flow of information.
To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes I am aware of the many hackers that are also imployed by various corporations to find security loopholes for their stuff etc. kudos to them.
But unfortuatly there also many hackers who do it with no intent of helping their "victems" Those that do it simply to spy around.
The ones, trying to see what they can get into, without the companys knowing or permission. and accessing things they shouldnt be seeing to begin with. The ones who do this simply b/c they can and then dont tell the people about it.
Would you really want other strangers sneaking up to your house at night and peeking in all your windows just so they can try to see what they can?
Even if he is an emmisary to a comapny like the Internet Corporation For Assigned Names and Numbers, or any other company for example?
Thats what i was trying to get across in my first post <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Those are not hackers. Those are malicious security breakers, known among many other things as "crackers". And yes, I'm aware of the other definition of that word. Deal with it.
To me, all that doesn't appear to be too bad. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not even then Nem. Can we say Lamo ?
The hackers that break in without permission and then tell the company how they did it and what they can do to stop it, are legally wrong but morally right (but only if they tell the company how to stop it).
The hackers that are employed by companies to try to break into their systems and then tell them how to stop it, are legally and morally right. They are using thier skills for the good of other people and so need to be recognised and rewarded for their efforts.