Beware The Bagle

GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">New email worm</div> <a href='http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/20/0558222&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=126&tid=172&tid=185&tid=187&tid=190&tid=201' target='_blank'>From Slashdot</a>

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"the 'Bagle' or 'Beagle' worm is expected to hit the U.S. by midweek, probably Tuesday as many employees return from a three-day weekend." He points to this Washington Post story (via Yahoo!), which describes the Windows mass-mailing worm as being transmitted via email as an .exe attachment and as installing "a program that lets attackers connect to infected machines, install malicious software or steal files." The article says Bagle has been detected in more than 100 countries. Other readers have sent in links to coverage at the BBC and at SearchSecurity.com.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Sooooo... don't open that attachment. For all of our sakes.

Isn't it spelled Bagel though? Darned irresponsible virus writers, can't even proofread.

Comments

  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I think I may update my Anti-Virus every day for a while....
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    Wouldn't really effect me seeing as I never open any attachments from anybody, unless they know it's virus free for sure. Besides, all unknown contacts end up in the Junk Mail.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Who opens attachments named (random filename e.g.t3h h4x).exe these days anyway?
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 20 2004, 08:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 20 2004, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who opens attachments named (random filename e.g.t3h h4x).exe these days anyway? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Seconded.
  • ObstObst Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14436Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 20 2004, 03:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 20 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who opens attachments named (random filename e.g.t3h h4x).exe these days anyway? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My aunt did. She is a PC n00b. She barely knows how to connect to the internet or get her mail, and she usually ejects the floppy disk from the floppy drive when she puts a CD into the CD drive, cause she doesn't think both could be read at the same time. She owns a PC for more than 2 years now <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
    And after she got a virus (OK, it were about 5-8 virusses) she kept saying "I don't have a virus" even after random files where sent to random people in her Outlook phonebook. And I really think there are more people like her spread all over the globe (even if maybe not as n00b as she is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->). And just because <b>you</b> are an internet junkie, play online games and are a member of a community (read= you know how to use a PC to it's max) you cannot say <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Who opens attachments named (random filename e.g.t3h h4x).exe these days anyway? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's like saying: Who shoots people these days anyway? Everyone knows shooting people is bad... [OK, maybe an extreme comparison...]

    In other words: Mind the n00bish...
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    I just had to reformat because of a virus....4 years of data lost.....oh well, none of it was important anyway.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    One of the owners of the company got this one today. 5 times actually. And she says "after the third one, I started to get suspicious"... Yeah. She opens EVERY single email she gets, no matter how many times she's told not to (and its been a lot, a whole lot). Luckily she has some new virus protection put on her computer though and it wouldn't let her open it...

    The virus itself is pretty stupid. Just an plaintext email, the subject is always "Hi", and the attachment is an exe. I mean hell even my mom knows not to open that sort of thing...
  • ObstObst Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14436Members, Constellation
    Your mum > My auntie ^^

    Please, don't think everyone is so familiar with his/her PC <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    edited January 2004
    hes coming to get j00!

    update : now with more scary
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burr+Jan 20 2004, 10:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Jan 20 2004, 10:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just had to reformat because of a virus....4 years of data lost.....oh well, none of it was important anyway. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Same, most important stuff I was able to backup though because I was able to get a second version of windows XP on without overwriting everything, most of my files corrupted and I couldn't access the "my documents" folder, so I just had to settle with burning my entire Shared Folder.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    ph33r teh telnet

    hehe, attachments? what are tohse? I have to frikken TP into my mail server if I wana touch those things <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (not that I ever WANT to)

    [edit] ok, thats a funny typo (hehe teleport into my mail server <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) I actualy have to FTP in <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->[/edit]

    This one sounds lame... what is the body of the msg generaly?

    I meen, alot of people just go on auto piolit when checking email, and if they get an email from a friend (or possibly even their tech savy son/grandson whetever) why wouldn't they open the attachment?

    Remember, alot of these virii/worms work by spoofing email addresses, so if my grandmother got an email from me, my bor, or my dad telling her to open the attachment she probably would
    most people don't know that it is possible (let alone how simple it is) to spoof an email addy.

    So don'tr go around bashing those people who don't know as much about computers as you do.
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    No matter how hard we try, people will open this. Because they are idiots.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    my god you people are just mean.

    People are not idiots for not being computer savvy.

    Do you know how to bake a caek, Make a bookself, repair a car, Wire a house for electricity?

    well, acording to your deffinition if you don't know one of those things your an idiot.

    gg
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    There is a fine line between opening a suspicious attachment from someone you dont know sent from an email adress youve never heard of and making a bookshelf. Which I dont think would be that hard anyway.
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Jan 20 2004, 01:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Jan 20 2004, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> my god you people are just mean.

    People are not idiots for not being computer savvy.

    Do you know how to bake a caek, Make a bookself, repair a car, Wire a house for electricity?

    well, acording to your deffinition if you don't know one of those things your an idiot.

    gg <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This coming from the guy who fell for "The Best Blonde Joke Evar"
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    blink blink

    renegade, I think you got me mixed up with some one (what blond joke? aside from the ones aimed at my own blond head? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
    oh, you talking about <a href='http://pub52.ezboard.com/fstormsdenfrm1.showMessage?topicID=344.topic' target='_blank'>this one?</a> (Did I fall for that? I only remember clicking through about 2 times before getting it... Then trying to find the begining... couldn't ;()


    Vulgar, the emails come from people who had you in their address book...
    The better crafted ones will take and address book ad randomly pair up email addys, sending the virus to one from a spoof of the other
    I have gotten virus emails from mac users (note I knew it wasn't from them simply b/c I know how to check for spoofs), seeing how as there is about one virus out there that will effect a mac..... yah

    oh, and the bookshelf line is pointing out:
    Look, some people know carpentry, some people know computers, some people know how to cook, different people know different things. I know some rudementry carpentry (enugh to screw sometihng up big time) this dosn't make me an idiot, it just makes me unknowledgable about a woodplane.
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    OK, point taken. I understand and all but still..I just can't see how anybody can fall for that.
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vulgar Menace+Jan 20 2004, 03:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vulgar Menace @ Jan 20 2004, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No matter how hard we try, people will open this. Because they are idiots. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is true. You tell them 'don't touch' but they do it anyways.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vulgar Menace+Jan 20 2004, 04:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vulgar Menace @ Jan 20 2004, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OK, point taken. I understand and all but still..I just can't see how anybody can fall for that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats what you expect from the world.....

    Just try to expect more surprises from life.

    On the topic of viruses....ROFL thats one freaky picture
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    oh, ome more fun things, this virus aparently bites compared to the ones most people are now ussed to.

    The attachment looks like the windows Calculator, the body of the msg is test, and the subject line is always Hi.

    It also dosn't seem to use spoofing (like many previous ones) but insteads only spams itself to people in your address book

    AND THEY RELEASED IT ON A WEEKEND IN AUSTRALIA!!

    so, its got released in the arse end of no where (not to offend aussies, but you have a small country), on a weekend so most IT departments had PLEANTY of time to set up safeguards before every one came back <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Hand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_AgainHand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_Again Join Date: 2002-02-07 Member: 178Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burr+Jan 20 2004, 03:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Jan 20 2004, 03:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just had to reformat because of a virus....4 years of data lost.....oh well, none of it was important anyway. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Does nobody take backups these days?

    My vaguely-important data is duplicated on three different PCs, with more transient, work-in-progress stuff backed up on to rewritable CD or Zip disk. Data for archival is put on CDR and stored in another part of the house, while anything particularly important gets uploaded on to machines all over the world.

    And I'm not even remotely paranoid. I've got an old tape drive I'm <i>not</i> doing nightly backups with!
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    I already got 3 emails with it. Including one that says its from myself lol even though i dont have it,
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Jan 20 2004, 03:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Jan 20 2004, 03:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    People are not idiots for not being computer savvy.
    Do you know how to bake a caek, Make a bookself, repair a car, Wire a house for electricity?
    well, acording to your deffinition if you don't know one of those things your an idiot.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I certainly see your point, and agree somewhat.

    However, they don't get on CNN and tell you that you need to add eggs to the cake mix. And if someone DOES tell you to add the eggs 50 times and you still don't listen, you deserve to have no cake.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    lol...

    i recently got a test.bat from somone... saved it to my desktop, opened it in notepad.. and started reading away... some nasty stuff in there...
    does it make me an idiot for opening it? does it make me an idiot for saving it?

    does it make me an idiot for sending a reply telling the guy that it didn't work, and should test it himself?



    some people won't learn, some peaople won't care, and some people... don't have anyone in their adress book for a reason.
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    you know you loved my pic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    hehe, I was basicaly just getting ticked off at the people who automaticly just rip in on anyone who makes a basic usser error.

    The people who are told 50 times specificly don't open any attachments uneless you are aboloutly positive you know what it is, well yah they are silly

    but if my grand ma gets an email from me telling her to open said file, well I don't blame her for messing up (not that my grandma has done anything like this, just an example:P)

    If a home user makes one of these screw up, well I understand it.

    If some one specificly ignores their IT departments request's, well then yes they are idiots.
    However most users don't have an IT department to tell em what to do, so I am not surprised that people mess up.
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