Grief

BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
It's funny thats the title, becuase its what im not feeling, and im a little worried. My mother died two weeks ago at the age of 40, from a brain tumor. She had been sick for a long time. It had started as breast cancer, then we thought we had killed it. a few months afterward, doctors said there was an inoperable tumor deep in her brain. She lived a few more years after that, active until six months ago. She died on boxing day, she had wanted to make it to Christmas. The thing is, i dont feel sad. I feel the loss of a loved one of course, but not sadness. If anything, i feel happy for her. The six months leading up to her death she was bedridden, and a week before it, she couldnt reconize me. The siezures were bad, it was just me and my father in the house. I dont feel cheated or anything, but i am angry for her. It wasnt fair. If she had to die, then why string it along for 3 years? But my point is, is it normal not to feel any great sadness?

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  • chis1chis1 Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25281Members
    yeah its normal, you understand the time was coming, you probably greifed leading up to the death , which made the death just.. normal, and im sure you understand things like that happen O_o its not like you dont miss her, you just understand death
  • ObstObst Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14436Members, Constellation
    For me not having feelings in certain situations is one of my personal goals. I am happy to be able to suppress my feelings, and I think you should be happy, too, cause think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies. They couldn't stand their feelings. So, let's all be happy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    (What kind of religion do you have? Do you think your mom's in a better place now? If yes, then be even more happy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    I don't know much about grief, but I think Chis has it right. You had a long time to come to terms with what was going to happen, and if your mother was uncomfortable near the end then I imagine there's a small bit of relief in there too that she's not suffering any more. I know that's mostly what I felt when my grandparents passed on.
  • TransmissionTransmission Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14456Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Obst & Gemuese+Jan 13 2004, 06:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Obst & Gemuese @ Jan 13 2004, 06:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For me not having feelings in certain situations is one of my personal goals. I am happy to be able to suppress my feelings, and I think you should be happy, too, cause think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies. They couldn't stand their feelings. So, let's all be happy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    (What kind of religion do you have? Do you think your mom's in a better place now? If yes, then be even more happy <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's a difference between supressing your feelings and handling them badly. There is a healthy way to feel.


    Karma, we all have different ways of handling death, so there isn't really a <i>normal</i> way. Exposure to death, religion, and upbringing all effect how we handle it. I know you've mentioned that you hunt in previous posts, so you see death when you kill another animal. Maybe that has changed how you thought you should've reacted to this situation?

    I can't comment on much else, since I don't know your situation. However, just remeber that we all handle things differently, and you'll find (or have found) your way of dealing with your mother's death.
  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--BadKarma+Jan 13 2004, 05:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jan 13 2004, 05:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It wasnt fair. If she had to die, then why string it along for 3 years? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    One reason I'm an athiest... "loving god" my ****...
  • chis1chis1 Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25281Members
    yeah same, things happen, its unexpetectid, but in no way is it the work of god :/
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    We wern't made to live forever. Think about all of the other great things we get including life it-self, heathen.
  • ShadowlinexShadowlinex Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19144Members
    edited January 2004
    From my trial of life so far, i understand these things, both my grandpa and grandma on my mother's side are dead. I remeber they day where my family and i where in the hospital where my grandma was getting a check up, after a few hours we heard she had cancer in the lungs and was going to die. Few years later she became forget full, she didn't even know my name or any of the family. Everyone cried, but me, i never understud why? So many horrible things have to me in my life I have gained a natural protection from sadness. I know its horrible to say; one day I remeber my mom telling me grandma was dead and thing i hate most about it was when she left and i returned to playing Firearms. Not a tear feel from my face, never! I hate myself for that, I truely do and I can never forgive myself.

    The feeling is normal, just make sure you mourn alittle bit about it. you might have already have. My store above is to prove that i know what i'm talking about. I have a lot of run ins with death i guess.
  • chis1chis1 Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25281Members
    when my gran died i was like "oh..." i only felt sadness for my dad (whos mother it was) kinda evil actually O_O but i guess it was, i wasnt very close to her, i did think , what it must of been like .. her last hours etc.. but i wasnt really sad
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Some people are just different...

    I've lost a dog and three grandparents and haven't felt all that much...
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--BadKarma+Jan 14 2004, 06:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jan 14 2004, 06:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's funny thats the title, becuase its what im not feeling, and im a little worried. My mother died two weeks ago at the age of 40, from a brain tumor. She had been sick for a long time. It had started as breast cancer, then we thought we had killed it. a few months afterward, doctors said there was an inoperable tumor deep in her brain. She lived a few more years after that, active until six months ago. She died on boxing day, she had wanted to make it to Christmas. The thing is, i dont feel sad. I feel the loss of a loved one of course, but not sadness. If anything, i feel happy for her. The six months leading up to her death she was bedridden, and a week before it, she couldnt reconize me. The siezures were bad, it was just me and my father in the house. I dont feel cheated or anything, but i am angry for her. It wasnt fair. If she had to die, then why string it along for 3 years? But my point is, is it normal not to feel any great sadness? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's a defence mechanism, and it's normal. Well, it's not <i>good</i> per se, but it's normal. Your body's trying to save it from itself, basically. The same thing happened when my father died (and I was something like 9 at the time). For me, the greif did kick in eventually. It might sound kind of strange, but I hope it does for you too, at some point.

    ...

    /me re-reads the thread.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For me not having feelings in certain situations is one of my personal goals. I am happy to be able to suppress my feelings, and I think you should be happy, too, cause think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies. They couldn't stand their feelings. So, let's all be happy 
    (What kind of religion do you have? Do you think your mom's in a better place now? If yes, then be even more happy  )<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whoa. <b>WHOA</b>. Stop. Suppressing your emotions is NOT healthy. Not healthy at all. "think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies"... where the hell did <i>that</i> come from? Suicide is caused by depression, not fear of your own emotions.

    When a parent dies, the world f***ing sucks, ok? You're not meant to be happy all the time. "Oh, my mum died! Yay! I should forget all about it and pretend I'm fine because crying's bad!". Wth's wrong with you?

    Suppressing emotions is nothing to be proud of. It leads to nothing but trouble. Greif especially is normal and healthy. Having a parent die is one of the worst things in the world you can ever go through; damn sure you're meant to be upset about it. You're NOT meant to put on a f***ing happy face and act like nothing's wrong.
  • chis1chis1 Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25281Members
    its true, hold your emotions in for so long, then BAM they all fly out in a mid life crises :|
  • NuketheplaceNuketheplace Join Date: 2002-09-02 Member: 1266Members
    I think I know what your talking about. You don't want to repress your emotions but it just happens. I don't have much experience with death, but the most I've felt is when I started thinking about all the things I could never do with them.

    Anyway I think this is normal for a small part of the population and its a perfectly fine way to handle grief.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Well... let me clarify what I mean.

    It's normal to not feel anything when you think you should be grieving, because it's your body's way of trying to cope. It's normal for the grief <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(yeah, I think I'll stick with this spelling now. Looks more right)</span> to come flooding out later on when something sets it off.

    What <i>isn't</i> normal and healthy is to <i>deliberately</i> suppress your emotions. Well, when I say "normal"... it's well-documented, so it's not <i>uncommon</i>, but... it's not the correct operating procedure. You'll break something.
  • ShadowlinexShadowlinex Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19144Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--cHIs-+Jan 13 2004, 07:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cHIs- @ Jan 13 2004, 07:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its true, hold your emotions in for so long, then BAM they all fly out in a mid life crises :| <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    true... so ture
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Jan 13 2004, 08:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Jan 13 2004, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For me not having feelings in certain situations is one of my personal goals. I am happy to be able to suppress my feelings, and I think you should be happy, too, cause think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies. They couldn't stand their feelings. So, let's all be happy 
    (What kind of religion do you have? Do you think your mom's in a better place now? If yes, then be even more happy  )<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whoa. <b>WHOA</b>. Stop. Suppressing your emotions is NOT healthy. Not healthy at all. "think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies"... where the hell did <i>that</i> come from? Suicide is caused by depression, not fear of your own emotions.

    When a parent dies, the world f***ing sucks, ok? You're not meant to be happy all the time. "Oh, my mum died! Yay! I should forget all about it and pretend I'm fine because crying's bad!". Wth's wrong with you?

    Suppressing emotions is nothing to be proud of. It leads to nothing but trouble. Greif especially is normal and healthy. Having a parent die is one of the worst things in the world you can ever go through; damn sure you're meant to be upset about it. You're NOT meant to put on a f***ing happy face and act like nothing's wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What if you supress most emotions unwillingly but don't mind? (I do it in certain situations. I just sort of feel... I dunno. It's like I don't have any feeling at all, but it doesn't bother me. It helps me get through rough times.)
  • ShadowlinexShadowlinex Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19144Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jan 13 2004, 10:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jan 13 2004, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Jan 13 2004, 08:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Jan 13 2004, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->For me not having feelings in certain situations is one of my personal goals. I am happy to be able to suppress my feelings, and I think you should be happy, too, cause think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies. They couldn't stand their feelings. So, let's all be happy 
    (What kind of religion do you have? Do you think your mom's in a better place now? If yes, then be even more happy  )<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Whoa. <b>WHOA</b>. Stop. Suppressing your emotions is NOT healthy. Not healthy at all. "think about the people who commit suicide after a loved one /family member dies"... where the hell did <i>that</i> come from? Suicide is caused by depression, not fear of your own emotions.

    When a parent dies, the world f***ing sucks, ok? You're not meant to be happy all the time. "Oh, my mum died! Yay! I should forget all about it and pretend I'm fine because crying's bad!". Wth's wrong with you?

    Suppressing emotions is nothing to be proud of. It leads to nothing but trouble. Greif especially is normal and healthy. Having a parent die is one of the worst things in the world you can ever go through; damn sure you're meant to be upset about it. You're NOT meant to put on a f***ing happy face and act like nothing's wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What if you supress most emotions unwillingly but don't mind? (I do it in certain situations. I just sort of feel... I dunno. It's like I don't have any feeling at all, but it doesn't bother me. It helps me get through rough times.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I find my self doing that to for reason stated in my other topic "Hallermann-Streiff,"

    Meh.. i think we all do that. Like there is time and place we need to release are emotions. For me its art and poetry!
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Yes, we all do it to an extent. And sometimes it's necessary. It's just not healthy to suppress everything, with no intention of ever letting it out.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    To be honest, I find that I never really have anything to let out. It just... Happens. Then it's over and I feel again and couldn't care less about what just happened.
  • ObstObst Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14436Members, Constellation
    I know trying to suppress feelings when they are happening is bad, what I meant was stopping them from even happening. You (at least me) will not even know there is a feeling. And I was trying to express that not feeling grief and going like "WTH ARGHL *cries for days*" was even worse then standing there thinking "She is in heaven now, she was finally released from here pain *smiles*". Or is this <i>SO</i> wrong?
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    Yes It's normal not to be sad. My great grandma went through a similiar situation. If anything be happy for them. Death is a natural thing, its inevitable.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Death's a funny thing... funny weird, not funny haha =P

    When my grandmother on my mother's side passed away I honestly had trouble feeling anything about it, we'd never been close but for some reason I burst into tears during the ceremony. Go figure =3

    When my grandfather passed away on my dad's side all I could do is look guilty and admit "really? ...um ...I thought he'd already died like years ago? ^^; "
    Which is a shame because when he'd actually been mentally 'there' he'd done cool stuff like show me how to make a battery tester thingy and other stuff.

    Close-wise, the only thing I've ever lost are our pets... to date we've had 2 budgies and 2 cats pass away from old age or cancer. Considering how I felt when those went I'd hate to imagine the passing of my parents or friends -.-


    When a relative suffers such a long period before they finally go, then it's understandable not to feel grief right off the bat. Like others mentioned you've already done some of it leading up to this; it's not a surprise, it's not sudden, you knew it was coming. It'll probably catch up with you again at a later date though, so don't be too shocked when you suddenly feel a big bout of upset just well up inside you =/
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    I know pretty much how you feel.

    My father died of a brain tumor 7 years ago. I was 13. When he died it was a relief. He had lived for about a year with it, and the moment after the first operation he had become a different person. He was bedridden and unable to communicate for a month.

    I didn't feel any grief at the time, I didn't even feel the need to take off school. I've worried ever since that at some point I'm going to snap out of it and grief is going to hit me like a bus. It hasn't yet though, and I don't think it will. I felt cheated at times out of the experiences I might have had with him, but I've realised that my father's death changed who I grew up to be. I like who I am now, so it doesn't make much sense to be angry about it. Time has helped me to focus on my memories of him before his illness, which have become very valuable to me.

    So long as you don't fight your emotions about this when they come, don't worry about it. I felt the same way at the time.
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    To quote that guy who did the song I'm about to quote

    I am a rock
    I am an island

    And a rock feels no pain
    And an island never cries.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    Skorpion and moultano, you both have my deepest sympathies. Thanks all for the input.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    My condolences, Karma, both for your mothers death and the way she was forced to spend her last time.

    Thank god, I haven't lost one of my parents yet - only my grandparents, in whichs cases I was usually reduced to a crying mess for a day.
    My personal opionion about grief is this: Don't ask yourself what's normal, don't ask yourself how you <i>should</i> feel. What you are feeling is appropriate, simply <i>because</i> you are feeling it. Just let it happen. Nobody has a right in giving you pointers about how to cope with this.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    i was reading down the page, seeing a lot of negativity.. and i was about to write something..

    but NZ said it. he wins.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Its normal to not be emotionally effected by someone right away (not that it isn't normal to be effected right away). Things usually catch up to you when all of a sudden you start doing things that you use to love doing with the person you lost, and you realize you will never have the chance to do it that way again. I wouldn't worry about anything, just dont conciously supress these emotions when they come.
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