Map Wip....

ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
edited January 2004 in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">Having some style probs with this one...</div> Im having lots of trouble with the light stlyes for my new map...
Also I feel like gettin some advice...

I now realize these pics are makin the lighting seem worse, so im just uploadin the bsp that i have now. Load it through console "map 12-5-02"



**The pictures for some reason are horrible and don't do the map justice.. Plz look at the bsp...**



<a href='http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ssjyo0oda/12-5-03.bsp' target='_blank'>http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ssjyo0oda/12-5-03.bsp</a>
<a href='http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ssjyo0oda/extra.wad' target='_blank'>http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ssjyo0oda/extra.wad</a>
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
    Wow, i didn't realize how dark these were...
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
    6. Wow, pictures make maps look so much worse.... AGH, oh well...
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  • DjBourgeoisieDjBourgeoisie Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20300Members
    I dont know what to say other than, ( and this isnt specific to your map ) all maps in ns seem to have the same type of structures, lighting, etc etc. Ill post some screens of my current project ns_survival when I get home from work. Personally I get tired of the same grayish look, experiment with colored lighting. When used correctly it really adds to the atmosphere and the overall feel of the map. Ill up some screens later to show you what I mean. Best advice I can offer is, be original, and try new things. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
    I know what yer talkin bout. But look at the bsp... the pictures for some reason came out horrible and I dont know y... I'll try to get better ones and upload them.. But for now, look at the bsp to make a judgement plz.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
    Im guessing ingame it looks a lot brighter? But the problem with screenshots is that the screenshot doenst use the gamma ramp which you probably have set with the env_gamma. Instead it uses 1.0 I think.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Q: Why are my screenshots coming out darker than they look in game?
    A: There's this really cool effect in NS where brigher things become brighter, and darker things stay the same. It lends a more vivid and realistic view to the whole map. If you have Photoshop, and you want the screenshot to look right, use this method to fix the gamma settings.
    Go to Image->Adjust->Levels in Photoshop. There are three values next to "input level". 
    Change the last value according to this formula:
                                    value = 255 - (WorldcraftGammaSetting - 1.0)*128
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    quote taken from <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=100' target='_blank'>Mapping forum FAQ</a>

    Btw one piece of advice when u use white and red light together, I also did this on my map and the advice I got was to use white with a little
    more yellow in it yellow to give it more color. I think red and yellow look better together now that I changed it ^_^.

    btw any background info on the map? mission, what went wrong etc?

    [edit]downloading map to see it in action <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->[/edit]
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
    nah, no background right now... Ive just been tryin to get back into mappin after the long holiday break, and my lightin/style seems to be way off.

    Ill do what u said bout photoshop, reupload the pics...
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Not sure if anyone else has this problem (mayb just me)

    but when I try to start it is says

    valve\extra.wad missing

    Is this steam related <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> since i never installed it...

    *Looks to the left, to the right... Dogdes steam matrix style, noooooo theres no evading it... Eventually it will catch up and I have to install it*
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited January 2004
    omg... i knew this was gonna be a hassle... ill upload it in a minute.... it will be in first post.


    I reuploaded the pics....
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  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    nothin...?
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kouji San+Jan 9 2004, 12:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kouji San @ Jan 9 2004, 12:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Im guessing ingame it looks a lot brighter? But the problem with screenshots is that the screenshot doenst use the gamma ramp which you probably have set with the env_gamma. Instead it uses 1.0 I think.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Q: Why are my screenshots coming out darker than they look in game?
    A: There's this really cool effect in NS where brigher things become brighter, and darker things stay the same. It lends a more vivid and realistic view to the whole map. If you have Photoshop, and you want the screenshot to look right, use this method to fix the gamma settings.
    Go to Image->Adjust->Levels in Photoshop. There are three values next to "input level". 
    Change the last value according to this formula:
                                    value = 255 - (WorldcraftGammaSetting - 1.0)*128
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    quote taken from <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=100' target='_blank'>Mapping forum FAQ</a>

    Btw one piece of advice when u use white and red light together, I also did this on my map and the advice I got was to use white with a little
    more yellow in it yellow to give it more color. I think red and yellow look better together now that I changed it ^_^.

    btw any background info on the map? mission, what went wrong etc?

    [edit]downloading map to see it in action <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->[/edit] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A little off topic here, I notice their is only a method and values for Photoshop, anyone know any methods and values for Paint Shop Pro??
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