ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
edited January 2004
ummm, 1600 is top for the SAT (800 each for math and english)
First time I took the PSATs (softmore year I ytihnk )I got an 11** (don't remember exactly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) however thats b/c I always do realy well on the english section (despite my HORIBLE spelling and gramer in here I am an avid reader and have a stupidly large vocabulary <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
my junior year I got a 1430 (790 verbal 640 math), thats a score good enugh to get you into alot of colleges so long as your normal grades are ok, you coming from a good/decent school, you have extracericulars, and your esays are ok.
anytihng over 1100 is good.
Remember that you are graded against every one else, the highest something % get 1800 and then work your way down from there (It will tell you your break down on the score card when you get it. It will have a thing that says 'you are in the top **%)
Oh, I forgot to put in, the SATs are compleatly pointless, they basicaly judge how well you can study for the SAT nothing else. Every one knows exactly what the STAs will look like, what types of questions, how many of each type etc etc etc.
The entire thing is a crock <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Either they just changed the whole test around, or it will be done in a year or so (not sure which). So, don't sweat the details.
Unless your SAT is either extremely high or extremely low, nobody will care anyways. SAT scores are only a consideration for culling the initial herd of applicants to colleges. They aren't accurate enough to do anything else with. The other parts of your application are much more heavily weighted.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
Anything over 1,000 combined math and reading/english is considered am average score, 1150- high is good.
Not many people know but the whole point of the SATS is to "give potential college recruiters" an idea as to how well you will read and comprehend college level books in your first year.
Yea that sounds stupid but I got that straight from one of the SAT offcials and same at people at 2 colleges.
Also many colleges are starting to not take SATS into consideration, when viewing applications or they are starting to phase them out.
this is due to the fact that they have been proven to be 86% inaccurate in determining how well any given particular first year univseristy student will do. Meaning they are only 16% accurate and determinining what they were supposed to.
Also there is the big standardized testing debate as well.
Considering everone takes the same test yet its a known fact that not every highschool in the US gives the same quality education. So some students are at a disadvantage.
Marik_SteeleTo rule in hell...Join Date: 2002-11-20Member: 9466Members
edited January 2004
<!--QuoteBegin--P-Khan+Jan 8 2004, 09:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (P-Khan @ Jan 8 2004, 09:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Right, I'm not American, so I have no idea what's good and what's bad.
My school made me do the SAT I this semester, and I would like to know what is a good grade for a junior in his first semester. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Good" and "Bad" depends on which colleges or universities you're planning on applying to. Many will have a statistic in their mailings, brochures, or website to let applying students know what the average accepted students' scores were. If it's on the website, it'll be in a section with a name such as "freshmen admissions" or "undergraduate admissions." For example: MIT, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has a reputation of being a very good technical school, and thus is very exclusive with their admissions process. <a href='http://web.mit.edu/admissions/www/undergrad/freshman/faq/tests.html' target='_blank'>This FAQ</a> has 2 questions of interest: "What is the lowest SAT score you will accept?" "We do not have any cutoffs for scores." This means that they won't throw your application into the trash just because they take a glance at your SAT score and aren't immediately impressed. Most schools give an answer like this. However: "What kind of scores do I need to be admitted?" "The average score on any of these tests for admitted students is in the 700s. The 25%-75% midrange of scores for students admitted in 2003 was 690-770 for SAT-I:Verbal and 740-800 for SAT-I:Math." Meaning that out of the people admitted in 2003, the people in the middle 50% range had very high or perfect scores in math (it's a technical school) and slightly lower but still high scores in verbal. If we were talking about a college that focused more on business or law degrees instead of engineering, then that school may put more emphasis on communication skills, and verbal may be more important than math to them.
Look at the website for whatever schools you're interested in; there's a very good chance you'll find a FAQ with similar questions, or statistics of students who were admitted to the school in the past year.
[edit]"good" or "bad" may also depend on the school you're attending at this very moment. If the college has very few slots left for students when you and a classmate of yours both apply to that same one, and if you have very similar academic/extracurricular interests and grades, the college admissions committee there will think the two of you are similar enough that they will need some sort of "tiebreaker." This may end up being essays they ask for, teacher recommendation letters they ask for, or just the SAT scores.
<!--QuoteBegin--UnderDOG+Jan 8 2004, 11:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Jan 8 2004, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The ACTs seem to be alot more important than the SAT, but ive only just started hearing about them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> While its been several years since High School, I believe it actually depends on what part of the country as to whether universities in the area care more about the SAT or ACT. I didn't even take the ACT, as here peeps only cared about the SAT. Don't remember what my score was or what the scoring system is, but I think I got a B-ish
Remember, you get 250 points automatically for writing your name. It is possible to leave five questions blank and still receive a 1600. However, the test structure will be changing in 2005 factoring in a written portion. The first few people to get a full score on the new test goes to the college of their choice.
There is no preference from colleges between the ACT or the SAT, but the ACT is easier (less logic, more knowledge) and its curve is less killer because not as many people take it. Also more East Coast students take the ACT. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending if you do well), SAT's are a substantial part of college admissions. Public universities don't have time to read essays and teacher recommendations. They look at numbers. Test scores (SAT I/II, AP, ACT) are worth appx. 25% of your "application score". Other 25% is essay/extra-cirricular. Half comes from your grades and course-load. For private universities, that drops to around 10-15% of your "app score", factoring in more essays, recommendations, and interviews. A good SAT score is above 1200.
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First time I took the PSATs (softmore year I ytihnk )I got an 11** (don't remember exactly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) however thats b/c I always do realy well on the english section (despite my HORIBLE spelling and gramer in here I am an avid reader and have a stupidly large vocabulary <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
my junior year I got a 1430 (790 verbal 640 math), thats a score good enugh to get you into alot of colleges so long as your normal grades are ok, you coming from a good/decent school, you have extracericulars, and your esays are ok.
anytihng over 1100 is good.
Remember that you are graded against every one else, the highest something % get 1800 and then work your way down from there (It will tell you your break down on the score card when you get it. It will have a thing that says 'you are in the top **%)
well, gl mate <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh, I forgot to put in, the SATs are compleatly pointless, they basicaly judge how well you can study for the SAT nothing else. Every one knows exactly what the STAs will look like, what types of questions, how many of each type etc etc etc.
The entire thing is a crock <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Unless your SAT is either extremely high or extremely low, nobody will care anyways. SAT scores are only a consideration for culling the initial herd of applicants to colleges. They aren't accurate enough to do anything else with. The other parts of your application are much more heavily weighted.
Not many people know but the whole point of the SATS is to "give potential college recruiters" an idea as to how well you will read and comprehend college level books in your first year.
Yea that sounds stupid but I got that straight from one of the SAT offcials and same at people at 2 colleges.
Also many colleges are starting to not take SATS into consideration, when viewing applications or they are starting to phase them out.
this is due to the fact that they have been proven to be 86% inaccurate in determining how well any given particular first year univseristy student will do. Meaning they are only 16% accurate and determinining what they were supposed to.
Also there is the big standardized testing debate as well.
Considering everone takes the same test yet its a known fact that not every highschool in the US gives the same quality education. So some students are at a disadvantage.
My school made me do the SAT I this semester, and I would like to know what is a good grade for a junior in his first semester. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Good" and "Bad" depends on which colleges or universities you're planning on applying to. Many will have a statistic in their mailings, brochures, or website to let applying students know what the average accepted students' scores were. If it's on the website, it'll be in a section with a name such as "freshmen admissions" or "undergraduate admissions."
For example: MIT, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has a reputation of being a very good technical school, and thus is very exclusive with their admissions process. <a href='http://web.mit.edu/admissions/www/undergrad/freshman/faq/tests.html' target='_blank'>This FAQ</a> has 2 questions of interest:
"What is the lowest SAT score you will accept?" "We do not have any cutoffs for scores."
This means that they won't throw your application into the trash just because they take a glance at your SAT score and aren't immediately impressed. Most schools give an answer like this. However:
"What kind of scores do I need to be admitted?" "The average score on any of these tests for admitted students is in the 700s. The 25%-75% midrange of scores for students admitted in 2003 was 690-770 for SAT-I:Verbal and 740-800 for SAT-I:Math."
Meaning that out of the people admitted in 2003, the people in the middle 50% range had very high or perfect scores in math (it's a technical school) and slightly lower but still high scores in verbal. If we were talking about a college that focused more on business or law degrees instead of engineering, then that school may put more emphasis on communication skills, and verbal may be more important than math to them.
Look at the website for whatever schools you're interested in; there's a very good chance you'll find a FAQ with similar questions, or statistics of students who were admitted to the school in the past year.
[edit]"good" or "bad" may also depend on the school you're attending at this very moment. If the college has very few slots left for students when you and a classmate of yours both apply to that same one, and if you have very similar academic/extracurricular interests and grades, the college admissions committee there will think the two of you are similar enough that they will need some sort of "tiebreaker." This may end up being essays they ask for, teacher recommendation letters they ask for, or just the SAT scores.
While its been several years since High School, I believe it actually depends on what part of the country as to whether universities in the area care more about the SAT or ACT. I didn't even take the ACT, as here peeps only cared about the SAT. Don't remember what my score was or what the scoring system is, but I think I got a B-ish
There is no preference from colleges between the ACT or the SAT, but the ACT is easier (less logic, more knowledge) and its curve is less killer because not as many people take it. Also more East Coast students take the ACT.
Unfortunately (or fortunately depending if you do well), SAT's are a substantial part of college admissions. Public universities don't have time to read essays and teacher recommendations. They look at numbers. Test scores (SAT I/II, AP, ACT) are worth appx. 25% of your "application score". Other 25% is essay/extra-cirricular. Half comes from your grades and course-load. For private universities, that drops to around 10-15% of your "app score", factoring in more essays, recommendations, and interviews.
A good SAT score is above 1200.