Map Updates?

devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
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I see in the changelog that veil was updated, but I don't see any of the other maps
Like caged and the various onos problems
Hera and the siege 2 hives from processing

Are these fixed and not in the changelog? Or have the maps not been resubmitted?
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  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited January 2004
    I know Tanith has been changed.
    I also saw in a thread KungFuSquirrel promised to do something with the elevators in ns_nothing and possible a new maintenace hive in ns_eclipse
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  • SuddenFearSuddenFear Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17571Members
    I heard that you can no longer seige ns_veil's double res from marine start.
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  • PowerslavEPowerslavE Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21962Members
    It was in the changelog many many builds ago, but I've seen it done in 2.1/3.0 still.
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    The map with furnace and biodome, there needs to be another exit from furnace that onos can get through
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--devicenull+Jan 4 2004, 03:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (devicenull @ Jan 4 2004, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The map with furnace and biodome, there needs to be another exit from furnace that onos can get through <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ns_origin.

    And I thought furnace had two exitst...one from the "ladders" and one from the "rock formation".
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  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Jan 4 2004, 03:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jan 4 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--devicenull+Jan 4 2004, 03:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (devicenull @ Jan 4 2004, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The map with furnace and biodome, there needs to be another exit from furnace that onos can get through <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ns_origin.

    And I thought furnace had two exitst...one from the "ladders" and one from the "rock formation". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah but from the "rock formation" you cant get anywhere. It leads to Ore Extraction, which has 3 vents, and each of them are too small for an onos to fit in. Although 1 vent leads to dbl res and its high enough for onos but then you just see even more vents <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    nah furnace is 1-way exit/entrance for onos.
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin--Buggy+Jan 4 2004, 04:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Buggy @ Jan 4 2004, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Jan 4 2004, 03:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jan 4 2004, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--devicenull+Jan 4 2004, 03:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (devicenull @ Jan 4 2004, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The map with furnace and biodome, there needs to be another exit from furnace that onos can get through <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ns_origin.

    And I thought furnace had two exitst...one from the "ladders" and one from the "rock formation". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah but from the "rock formation" you cant get anywhere. It leads to Ore Extraction, which has 3 vents, and each of them are too small for an onos to fit in. Although 1 vent leads to dbl res and its high enough for onos but then you just see even more vents <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    nah furnace is 1-way exit/entrance for onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What he said, if you make the vent big enough for an onos, the problems would be gone
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  • BallistoBallisto Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16503Members
    LOL onos crawling through vents - THAT is funny and unatmospheric. But then again, as cheesy as onos going up ladders...
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  • BobbybirdtreeBobbybirdtree Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23787Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SuddenFear+Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuddenFear @ Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard that you can no longer seige ns_veil's double res from marine start. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    God i hate that strategy. Great when you're a rine but if you are aliens you better hope the comm is a complete ignoranus. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bobbybirdtree+Jan 4 2004, 07:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jan 4 2004, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SuddenFear+Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuddenFear @ Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard that you can no longer seige ns_veil's double res from marine start. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    God i hate that strategy. Great when you're a rine but if you are aliens you better hope the comm is a complete ignoranus. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed, it was very lame. Especially when no one is expecting it at all.
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  • ExtremeExtreme Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24225Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cold-NiTe+Jan 4 2004, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Jan 4 2004, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Bobbybirdtree+Jan 4 2004, 07:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bobbybirdtree @ Jan 4 2004, 07:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SuddenFear+Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuddenFear @ Jan 4 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard that you can no longer seige ns_veil's double res from marine start. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    God i hate that strategy. Great when you're a rine but if you are aliens you better hope the comm is a complete ignoranus. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed, it was very lame. Especially when no one is expecting it at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea that is very lame. Can't defend that unless you take out their main base.
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  • MaianMaian Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14069Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    Well, the combat maps are getting updated a lot. And if the ns_nancy remake is finished on time, we can test that too <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> furnace is 1-way exit/entrance for onos.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    so is ventelation > dbl ladders, and so is biodome, whats your point?
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    The point is that there is no way for an onos to get inbeween the other 2 hives and furnace without going through either marine start, or double res making furnace nearly untakeable if the rines take furnace and then bunker down double and start (which is a VERY common stratagy on any map for other inherant reasons). It also makes your hive network impossible to defend if you start in furnace and rines get double.
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  • WinterWinter Join Date: 2003-08-21 Member: 20042Members
    New maintanance?? AGAIN? Weird. They totally re-did it in 2.0, what's on their mind now to change?
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    I have to agree onos have it way too hard in ns_origin especially when aliens have vent and rines have double. Well at least with the next version onos wont have as much trouble getting out of vent via Dbl as they wont fall backwards if they dont time crouch anymore to get off the ladder. Bodgy anti onos ladders was a HMGers best friend.

    And if you mined the top of the ladders insta gib onos.

    MC is a definate for that map. I usually get flamed for MC first on that map but people understand in the end and it breaks the monotony of DMS.

    - RD
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  • BobbybirdtreeBobbybirdtree Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23787Members
    I got trapped in funace once with a heavy train outside. I had to beg a gorge to build me a movement chamber so i could escape.
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    edited January 2004
    Biodome hive is also, without a doubt, the worst designed hive ever. The elevators just sing Fish-In-A-Barrel-Time. God help you if the marines relocate in there, you'll have one hell of a hard time getting in there with anything bigger then a lerk.
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SuperTeflon+Jan 5 2004, 01:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 5 2004, 01:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Biodome hive is also, without a doubt, the worst designed hive ever. The elevators just sing Fish-In-A-Barrel-Time. God help you if the marines relocate in there, you'll have one hell of a hard time getting in there with anything bigger then a lerk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's pretty freaking hard to defend as well sometimes. The only good thing about it is you can send the elevators up and escape through the vents underneath them. Though that can hardly be called good.
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    Yeh but the thing is if they do relocate there aliens can lock em in nice and tight. And if they build too close to the elevators you can Bile bomb them quite easily.

    But i must agree fish-in-a-barrel does sorta pop into your head when your in it.

    - RD
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ballisto+Jan 4 2004, 07:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ballisto @ Jan 4 2004, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LOL onos crawling through vents - THAT is funny and unatmospheric. But then again, as cheesy as onos going up ladders... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The wall isnt very thick, I kinda meant take the vent out entirely, so you can get to the top of double from furnace
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  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--version91x+Jan 5 2004, 03:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Jan 5 2004, 03:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> furnace is 1-way exit/entrance for onos.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    so is ventelation > dbl ladders, and so is biodome, whats your point? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah Ns_origin isnt a very Onos friendly map!
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  • ubermenschubermensch Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11692Banned
    how about this one; flay just announced that he's going to included the new, remade ns_nancy in 3.0:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wow, thanks Devin!  I can't wait to try it out.  I'll be sure to put it in the next build, and I'll let you know if there need to be any other changes.

    Don't worry about the HLTV overview files, they are no longer used in 3.0.

    Thanks again!

    -Charlie<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=43856&st=1590' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...t=43856&st=1590</a>

    now this is truly great news. i can't wait
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Not to rain on anyones parade here, but this merely means that the new nancy will be in the next testbuild, not necessarily in the final 3.0. It's of course possible, but let's just don't get our hopes up.
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jan 5 2004, 03:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jan 5 2004, 03:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not to rain on anyones parade here, but this merely means that the new nancy will be in the next testbuild, not necessarily in the final 3.0. It's of course possible, but let's just don't get our hopes up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We've already had an eternity of waiting for 3.0, another eternity to get nancy should be plenty of time <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Jan 5 2004, 03:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Jan 5 2004, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--version91x+Jan 5 2004, 03:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Jan 5 2004, 03:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> furnace is 1-way exit/entrance for onos.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    so is ventelation > dbl ladders, and so is biodome, whats your point? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah Ns_origin isnt a very Onos friendly map! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually last night I had massive success with onos on Origin between vent and furnace, but that was mainly in part to lots and lots of movement chambers.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Really Nem, what's the chances of it NOT being in? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Align+Jan 5 2004, 08:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Jan 5 2004, 08:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Really Nem, what's the chances of it NOT being in? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's what I was asked about co_nano, as well...


    *sob*
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Lazer said that he sent a new version of nancy to Flayra yesterday. So, maybe, if it's good, it will be in 3.0f <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    Hera is a real trouble map for me. If they don't fix the major problems in the map like double sieging from processing, or the incredibly annoying vent hive layout, i don't see its popularity exactly soaring. I find it baffling that bast's source file was lost after nancy's was. You would think there would have taken more precautions ( ms needs a serious rethink ).
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