Will Ns Stay Free And Will Still Get Updated?

Barneys_SoulBarneys_Soul Join Date: 2003-08-18 Member: 19896Members
in NS General Discussion
since ns is goin to be a standalone project will ns for half-life still be free and get updated abit or somen or is it getin canceled after 3.0??
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  • regisregis Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10580Members
    ns will always be free, and will be updated - both statements by flayra somewhere
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    The current versions including v3.0 will be free for download and play, the retail will be for NS2 for an updated engine and possibly the older version will be updated for retail for people who dont want to purchase HL to play NS. This is my understanding of it.

    - RD
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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    I think NS2 is only in the "planning" stage, so it won't be out for quite some time. Most likely, NS will stay free and updated for another year at least.
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  • Black_Hawk_VSBlack_Hawk_VS Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14478Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--regis+Jan 2 2004, 02:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (regis @ Jan 2 2004, 02:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ns will always be free, and will be updated - both statements by flayra somewhere <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have read this too, I forget where thought. THe retail would probably be for 2 main reasons, 1) reach a larger player base, 2) An extra scource of income to put food on the table
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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Like mojo said, no one knows for sure.
    NS will always be free, if it gets retail, it'll be just like CS. (<- no, not the gameplay, but the way they did it, still downloadable as mod.)
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  • MaGicBushMaGicBush Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10378Members
    Will always be free(at least NS on HL), if not.. that's just retared let's hope if does stay free.
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    I think that's actually part of the deal with Valve, to keep it free in some form (or at least Valve has veto power over what goes retail, and they know that their free mods are what makes their commercial products successful).

    The extra content you can pay for are 1) higher res models, more maps, etc. 2) single player experiances.

    Also, Flayra owns all the IP for NS. The only thing that he doesn't own is the engine. If he wanted to, he could purchase a license for another engine (like Unreal, Quake, etc.) and do whatever he wanted there. I do not expect him to develop for anything other than Valve's engines (they have a pretty good relationship), but I wanted to say that it's possible.
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  • OneSneakYmousEOneSneakYmousE Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10389Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Jan 2 2004, 03:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Jan 2 2004, 03:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think that's actually part of the deal with Valve, to keep it free in some form (or at least Valve has veto power over what goes retail, and they know that their free mods are what makes their commercial products successful).

    The extra content you can pay for are 1) higher res models, more maps, etc. 2) single player experiances.

    Also, Flayra owns all the IP for NS. The only thing that he doesn't own is the engine. If he wanted to, he could purchase a license for another engine (like Unreal, Quake, etc.) and do whatever he wanted there. I do not expect him to develop for anything other than Valve's engines (they have a pretty good relationship), but I wanted to say that it's possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just to let you know, other engines are being looked at.
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  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>NS WILL NOT BE FREE, I AM GOING TO SELL IT TO THE GRINCH K.</span>
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  • Barneys_SoulBarneys_Soul Join Date: 2003-08-18 Member: 19896Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Soberana+Jan 2 2004, 04:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Jan 2 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>NS WILL NOT BE FREE, I AM GOING TO SELL IT TO THE GRINCH K.</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    aww
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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--Soberana+Jan 2 2004, 10:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Jan 2 2004, 10:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>NS WILL NOT BE FREE, I AM GOING TO SELL IT TO THE GRINCH K.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You have no heart at all.. :'(

    <span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder you have no friends...</span>
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  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Jan 2 2004, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Jan 2 2004, 07:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder you have no friends...</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    aahaha.

    Yes, I hope (and believe) that NS will be free just like people stated before me
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  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Jan 2 2004, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Jan 2 2004, 07:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder you have no friends...</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder you have no friends... </span>

    Oh snap, I lose at life <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Soberana+Jan 3 2004, 12:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Jan 3 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Jan 2 2004, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Jan 2 2004, 07:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <span style='font-size:4pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder you have no friends...</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder you have no friends... </span>

    Oh snap, I lose at life <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Eh... yeah :\
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  • IceIce Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15008Members
    Have I missed something or are you guys just making those things up as you go? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • GrevenGreven Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11495Members
    I am very interested in NS2 it would be awesome if they could develop an engine to maximize what they really want to do with NS..Cause we know they want to do SO much more. And let me say for the record if Ns2 makes it to retail i will be camping out the night b4 to buy it...or i could pre order it but thats no fun!
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  • Fat_Man_Little_CoatFat_Man_Little_Coat Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23857Members
    All good things must come to an end....


    Plus it must kinda bother the dev. team to see people make games like Savage and profit, when they know they could do a better job.
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  • GrevenGreven Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11495Members
    HOLY crap Savage blew ****!!! i actually bought that game....... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> and can u beleive they claim to be the first FPS/RPG hybrid!!! Bah NS owns them!
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  • lljkWhimsylljkWhimsy Join Date: 2003-04-25 Member: 15829Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Greven+Jan 5 2004, 06:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greven @ Jan 5 2004, 06:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> HOLY crap Savage blew ****!!! i actually bought that game....... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> and can u beleive they claim to be the first FPS/RPG hybrid!!! Bah NS owns them! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "First" does not necessarily mean "best".
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  • Raw_EvilRaw_Evil Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11903Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Greven+Jan 4 2004, 08:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greven @ Jan 4 2004, 08:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am very interested  in NS2 it would be awesome if they could develop an engine to maximize what they really want to do with NS..Cause we know they want to do SO much more. And let me say for the record if Ns2 makes it to retail i will be camping out the night b4 to buy it...or i could pre order it but thats no fun!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am also interested in NS2. IMO the HL2 engine would make a very nice base for NS2. The engine has some amazing graphical and physical abilities. Not to mention the AIs that Valve have developed (getting very close to becoming self-aware, it would appear! But then again, I'm just an AI nut so don't listen to me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ) - you give the AI a goal and it pretty much thinks its way into achieving it.

    I'm envisioning it right now. A perfect-looking marine <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> pulling out his shiny shotgun <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> , and blowing away a particularly well-rendered skulk <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> as it leaps toward him. Ooooohhh *shudder* it sends a shiver down my spine already <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->



    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Yes, i r n3rd</span> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm envisioning it right now. A perfect-looking marine  pulling out his shiny shotgun  , and blowing away a particularly well-rendered skulk  as it leaps toward him. Ooooohhh *shudder* it sends a shiver down my spine already  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Its the bump mapped nostrils that would intrigue you. But we all know its the lens flare from the lights that would just bring everyone to the mod.

    - RD
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  • FlashFlash Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1783Members, Constellation
    The sooner it goes retail the better, as long as Flayra and the team keep control of what goes into the game. I can’t wait to play it on an engine with proper hit boxes, lighting and higher poly counts.

    I’m also looking forward to the NS MMO Flayra referred to whimsically in an interview, Now that would be cool. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SoberanaSoberana Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17695Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ice+Jan 3 2004, 04:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ice @ Jan 3 2004, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Have I missed something or are you guys just making those things up as you go? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    JezPuh is just a random forum idiot. It?s allright, nothing to see here.
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