meh, didn't see soylent's post, and I think this is fairly different from my last one.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Still? 1000s? It's worse than ever, I'd say 10 % of the CS community uses aimbots and that is probably pretty conservative(I see about 1% blatant cheaters using some anti-recoil crap and an aimbot that even my grandma would spot, since there are much more subtle aimbots the number of cheaters is probably huge). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
10%? I think not... I've been playing CS more now (AGAH I HAVE TO STOP!), and I see innocent people get booted for h4x all the time. Just because someone has good headphones or knows where to shoot behind walls where people will hide doesn't mean they hack.
A friend of mine showed me how he would purposely make it look like he's tracking through walls and could get himself kicked/banned from practically any server. Needless to say, he's a good player, but since I've played w/ him over LAN, I know he doesn't cheat.
Anyway, for the 3 weeks or so I've been playing CS again, I've seen countless people get booted for suspected h4x, when I'm fairly confident they don't hack. How you say? just watch demos of players like HeatoN or Potti go pub at sogamed.com. Can anyone say 50-2?
<b>uber edit:</b> <i>I've even seen people admit to cheating, saying "Ill turn it off now" and the admin goes like "OK, but dun do it again or yuoll be kicked" . Seriously, the situation with CS is so awful that I like to go spec people on pubs just for fun sometimes.</i>
just curious is there scripts that allow fades to blink and swipe about ten tipe INSTANTLY because you wouldnt believe the amount of times ive had full health level 3 armor and have died by a fade INSTANTLY. Put it this way you know how if you switch so fast and attack it will attack but show no animation, well somehow these peeps mangage to blink then swipe 3 times SO FAST no animation ever plays. I can prob go out to some server and get demos of this if peeps are confused. But to me that is the cheapest freaking exploit in the game. yeah woohoo go useful armor.
However this is the only way ive ever been killed by a fade 1 on 1 with a shotty in my hand and i do find it to be the only fair way for a fade to take on shotties and i do beleive a fade should be a greater than a shotty.
Tip: when killing fades with shotty remember, after u put 1 point blank shot in his ****, if he decides to run, pistol him, if your lucky youll get 5 damage worth of shrapnel on him if hes more than 3 feet away, 1 clip pisotl 200. 90% of my fade kills are done that way. ITs highly efficiant.
<!--QuoteBegin--Last.+Dec 31 2003, 03:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Dec 31 2003, 03:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> meh, didn't see soylent's post, and I think this is fairly different from my last one.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Still? 1000s? It's worse than ever, I'd say 10 % of the CS community uses aimbots and that is probably pretty conservative(I see about 1% blatant cheaters using some anti-recoil crap and an aimbot that even my grandma would spot, since there are much more subtle aimbots the number of cheaters is probably huge). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
10%? I think not... I've been playing CS more now (AGAH I HAVE TO STOP!), and I see innocent people get booted for h4x all the time. Just because someone has good headphones or knows where to shoot behind walls where people will hide doesn't mean they hack.
A friend of mine showed me how he would purposely make it look like he's tracking through walls and could get himself kicked/banned from practically any server. Needless to say, he's a good player, but since I've played w/ him over LAN, I know he doesn't cheat.
Anyway, for the 3 weeks or so I've been playing CS again, I've seen countless people get booted for suspected h4x, when I'm fairly confident they don't hack. How you say? just watch demos of players like HeatoN or Potti go pub at sogamed.com. Can anyone say 50-2?
<b>uber edit:</b> <i>I've even seen people admit to cheating, saying "Ill turn it off now" and the admin goes like "OK, but dun do it again or yuoll be kicked" . Seriously, the situation with CS is so awful that I like to go spec people on pubs just for fun sometimes.</i>
... ... ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> acually ive heard about 90% of cs players hack and i'd believe since 45 of the 50 cs players i know hack.
however inocent peeps are banned all the time because i've seen really good people own like no other that i know don't hack.
50-2 bah try 48-0 after over a year of no cs on a map ive never played.
acually you'll find most hardcore dod players can do that, since in dod, you generally have to aim faster and more acuratly with guns like the karbiner.
Oo the shotgun in cs is so easy to use after using the shotgun in ns. SHooting people who move at crawling speeds after shooting microscopic aliens with cerlerity, oo its just so easy.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What console commands does the team view as exploits? NS was meant to be played without the console. Any command or behavior that requires the console or a custom .cfg to operate is considered an exploit and won't be allowed in official competitive play, whenever enforceable.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is a dangerous blanket statement. I have a 5 button mouse and have different weapon mappings for each evolution. The buttons are remapped by seperate cfg's (gasp) that are execed when I choose the evolution (bind kp_+ "impulse 116; exec fade.cfg"). By this defination, this is an exploit. To say that using this is exploitive is a joke. All it does is remap keys that are bound to various weapon slots. Any league that would disallow that is garbage. This makes me glad I never got involved in competitive play.
<!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Dec 31 2003, 10:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Dec 31 2003, 10:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well, so long as it doesn't use +wait, special, or _special, you're set. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not according to that statement...
<!--QuoteBegin--Soylent green+Dec 31 2003, 01:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Dec 31 2003, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know what the worst thing about the situation is? It's that these retards will see a shiny new games called Natural-Selection under my games. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And they will see that it's protected by the same **** as CS, the god almighty VAC!!!!!!!!
That means, all of their cheats that work in CS will work for NS too!!!!!!!!
<!--QuoteBegin--Lt. Hendrickson+Dec 31 2003, 03:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt. Hendrickson @ Dec 31 2003, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just curious is there scripts that allow fades to blink and swipe about ten tipe INSTANTLY because you wouldnt believe the amount of times ive had full health level 3 armor and have died by a fade INSTANTLY. Put it this way you know how if you switch so fast and attack it will attack but show no animation, well somehow these peeps mangage to blink then swipe 3 times SO FAST no animation ever plays. I can prob go out to some server and get demos of this if peeps are confused. But to me that is the cheapest freaking exploit in the game. yeah woohoo go useful armor.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> first of all attacking 3 times instantly in a row is impossible without a speedhack, and if they had that, you would be easily able to hear it and spot it. you probably just lag or the fade is good and hit you with 2-3 swipes in a row without missing.
what most ppl dont understand is how fast you can change your weapons with hud_fastswitch1 and some quick fingers. i have had countless acusations made against me for using blink/swipe or leap/bite scripts, when all i honestly do is hit 3, blink, hit 1 while in the air, and then attack said marine. you can do this incredibly fast, and sometimes i think faster than the limit that is imposed on at least leap/bite. i have leapt then switched to bite instantly trying to bite a marine right in front of me, and i have killed them before without the bite attack playing on my screen, yet i still get a bite kill.
<!--QuoteBegin--lochness+Dec 31 2003, 01:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lochness @ Dec 31 2003, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Lt. Hendrickson+Dec 31 2003, 03:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt. Hendrickson @ Dec 31 2003, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just curious is there scripts that allow fades to blink and swipe about ten tipe INSTANTLY because you wouldnt believe the amount of times ive had full health level 3 armor and have died by a fade INSTANTLY. Put it this way you know how if you switch so fast and attack it will attack but show no animation, well somehow these peeps mangage to blink then swipe 3 times SO FAST no animation ever plays. I can prob go out to some server and get demos of this if peeps are confused. But to me that is the cheapest freaking exploit in the game. yeah woohoo go useful armor.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> first of all attacking 3 times instantly in a row is impossible without a speedhack, and if they had that, you would be easily able to hear it and spot it. you probably just lag or the fade is good and hit you with 2-3 swipes in a row without missing.
what most ppl dont understand is how fast you can change your weapons with hud_fastswitch1 and some quick fingers. i have had countless acusations made against me for using blink/swipe or leap/bite scripts, when all i honestly do is hit 3, blink, hit 1 while in the air, and then attack said marine. you can do this incredibly fast, and sometimes i think faster than the limit that is imposed on at least leap/bite. i have leapt then switched to bite instantly trying to bite a marine right in front of me, and i have killed them before without the bite attack playing on my screen, yet i still get a bite kill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Any decent fade should be able to change from blink-swipe quickly.
It's called lastinv <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Not really an exploit either, anyone with fast reflex should have an easy time pulling it off.
<!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Dec 31 2003, 02:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Dec 31 2003, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Any decent fade should be able to change from blink-swipe quickly.
It's called lastinv <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Not really an exploit either, anyone with fast reflex should have an easy time pulling it off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But apparently it IS an exploit if you change the lastinv bind from q to z with a cfg file.
<!--QuoteBegin--Last.+Dec 31 2003, 03:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Dec 31 2003, 03:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Can anyone say 50-2? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Some of my scores in cs were around 50 kills and under 10 deaths, that was until i got grounded from cs for 3 months, then after that i regained some skills, created a clan and went to cal <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> my clan broke up, and i discovered natural selection <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> If you go to good servers for cs such as netfragz you will never see hackers EVER ive seen people get 80-2 and they were not hacking, and not playin noobs, skill is out thier dont mistake it for hacks unless you get shot through a wall several times ( extra-emphasis on several, i kill people through walls some times on accident and some times on purpose to get those stupid campers ) now go play ns
As I said, its a grey area, befret with many flames <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't view scripting itself as an exploit. Key mapping and communication scripts are hardly exploits. However when you USE scripting to take advantage of an exploit in the game, well, its an exploit <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--MMZ>Torak+Dec 31 2003, 10:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MMZ>Torak @ Dec 31 2003, 10:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NS was meant to be played without the console. Any command or behavior that requires the console or a custom .cfg to operate is considered an exploit and won't be allowed in official competitive play, whenever enforceable.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> name haku
wow, i didnt know writing my name was an exploit, i should tell all the admins in the world to ban me becouse i changed my name in the console which is a huge exploit. JK. why the heck do you think we have a console?
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> = me <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> = you
Flaming dosn't help your position <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
The best way to avoid trolls and flames is to ignore them.
<!--QuoteBegin--Daxx22+Dec 31 2003, 03:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daxx22 @ Dec 31 2003, 03:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flaming dosn't help your position <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
The best way to avoid trolls and flames is to ignore them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You are right, i apologize to every one that i may have flamed, sorry guys, i was just getting mad
<!--QuoteBegin--Haku+Dec 31 2003, 03:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Haku @ Dec 31 2003, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Daxx22+Dec 31 2003, 03:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daxx22 @ Dec 31 2003, 03:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Flaming dosn't help your position <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
The best way to avoid trolls and flames is to ignore them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You are right, i apologize to every one that i may have flamed, sorry guys, i was just getting mad <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Especially when you are flaming someone who:
a) was the first person to help you and warn you about flamers
The best way to avoid trolls and flames is to ignore them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You are right, i apologize to every one that i may have flamed, sorry guys, i was just getting mad <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Especially when you are flaming someone who:
a) was the first person to help you and warn you about flamers
b) agrees 100% with you
<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Did i flame you? I know you agree with my i dont think i flamed you, did i? can you show me the post were i did, really sorry man if i did <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Last.+Dec 31 2003, 04:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Dec 31 2003, 04:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> haku, you just gained 10+ posts replying in your own thread. and thanks for the heads up about netfragz, been looking for a cs server to reg. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ya i noticed ive been really getting involved in my thread lol, and no prob with the netfragz server, they have like 5 or something <a href='http://www.netfragz.com' target='_blank'>NetFragz</a> well just take a look
Scripts can be fun. I used to have a CS Knife dance script.
It was HILARIOUS. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
If you want to learn to script go to Z_Malloc Overflow it's a hosted site on c-s.net. It's down right now for server maintainence though.
Or go to the official CS forums and take a gander at the config/alias/bind forum. The scripts there can mostly be adapated to NS.
Standard blink-swipe script for insertion into all scripting threads follows. Standby...
alias +blink_swipe "wait; weapon_blink; wait; +attack" alias -blink_swipe "wait; -attack; wait; weapon_swipe" bind "<key>" "+blink_swipe"
Hold assigned button to blink, release to auto switch to swipe.
Special New Years Eve bonus script insertion....Marine weapon toggle.
alias fast_slot1 "weapon_machinegun; weapon_shotgun; weapon_heavymachinegun; weapon_grenadegun" alias fast_slot2 "weapon_pistol; weapon_welder; weapon_mine" alias weapon_toggle "go_slot2" alias go_slot1 "fast_slot1; alias weapon_toggle go_slot2" alias go_slot2 "fast_slot2; alias weapon_toggle go_slot1" bind "<key>" "weapon_toggle"
Pressing the assigned key will switch to your pistol/mines/welder. Pressing again switches back to LMG/HMG/Shotty/GL. Will toggle between the two regardless of last inventory used. i.e. LMG out, switch to knife, hit weapon_toggle and pistol comes out, hit again LMG comes out rather than knife. Gets around having to reset lastinv everytime you die or build something.
Enjoy.
If you have any other questions about an alias/script you're trying to write I will try and help you out, just ask here.
<!--QuoteBegin--CheeseSticks~Yo+Dec 31 2003, 04:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CheeseSticks~Yo @ Dec 31 2003, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you want to learn to script go to Z_Malloc Overflow it's a hosted site on c-s.net. It's down right now for server maintainence though.
Or go to the official CS forums and take a gander at the config/alias/bind forum. The scripts there can mostly be adapated to NS.
Standard blink-swipe script for insertion into all scripting threads follows. Standby...
alias +blink_swipe "wait; weapon_blink; wait; +attack" alias -blink_swipe "wait; -attack; wait; weapon_swipe" bind "<key>" "+blink_swipe"
Hold assigned button to blink, release to auto switch to swipe.
Special New Years Eve bonus script insertion....Marine weapon toggle.
alias fast_slot1 "weapon_machinegun; weapon_shotgun; weapon_heavymachinegun; weapon_grenadegun" alias fast_slot2 "weapon_pistol; weapon_welder; weapon_mine" alias weapon_toggle "go_slot2" alias go_slot1 "fast_slot1; alias weapon_toggle go_slot2" alias go_slot2 "fast_slot2; alias weapon_toggle go_slot1" bind "<key>" "weapon_toggle"
Pressing the assigned key will switch to your pistol/mines/welder. Pressing again switches back to LMG/HMG/Shotty/GL. Will toggle between the two regardless of last inventory used. i.e. LMG out, switch to knife, hit weapon_toggle and pistol comes out, hit again LMG comes out rather than knife. Gets around having to reset lastinv everytime you die or build something.
Enjoy.
If you have any other questions about an alias/script you're trying to write I will try and help you out, just ask here. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That was the best site EVER
I know man, i used to go to that site in my cs days, now im just into ns <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Minstrel_KnightThe truth and nothing but the truth...Join Date: 2002-11-21Member: 9562Banned
Here's a good site for scripts in general. <a href='http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~counter-script/' target='_blank'>http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~counter-script/</a>
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Still? 1000s? It's worse than ever, I'd say 10 % of the CS community uses aimbots and that is probably pretty conservative(I see about 1% blatant cheaters using some anti-recoil crap and an aimbot that even my grandma would spot, since there are much more subtle aimbots the number of cheaters is probably huge).
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
10%? I think not... I've been playing CS more now (AGAH I HAVE TO STOP!), and I see innocent people get booted for h4x all the time. Just because someone has good headphones or knows where to shoot behind walls where people will hide doesn't mean they hack.
A friend of mine showed me how he would purposely make it look like he's tracking through walls and could get himself kicked/banned from practically any server. Needless to say, he's a good player, but since I've played w/ him over LAN, I know he doesn't cheat.
Anyway, for the 3 weeks or so I've been playing CS again, I've seen countless people get booted for suspected h4x, when I'm fairly confident they don't hack. How you say? just watch demos of players like HeatoN or Potti go pub at sogamed.com. Can anyone say 50-2?
<b>uber edit:</b> <i>I've even seen people admit to cheating, saying "Ill turn it off now" and the admin goes like "OK, but dun do it again or yuoll be kicked" . Seriously, the situation with CS is so awful that I like to go spec people on pubs just for fun sometimes.</i>
... ... ...
Put it this way you know how if you switch so fast and attack it will attack but show no animation, well somehow these peeps mangage to blink then swipe 3 times SO FAST no animation ever plays. I can prob go out to some server and get demos of this if peeps are confused. But to me that is the cheapest freaking exploit in the game. yeah woohoo go useful armor.
However this is the only way ive ever been killed by a fade 1 on 1 with a shotty in my hand and i do find it to be the only fair way for a fade to take on shotties and i do beleive a fade should be a greater than a shotty.
Tip: when killing fades with shotty remember, after u put 1 point blank shot in his ****, if he decides to run, pistol him, if your lucky youll get 5 damage worth of shrapnel on him if hes more than 3 feet away, 1 clip pisotl 200. 90% of my fade kills are done that way. ITs highly efficiant.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Still? 1000s? It's worse than ever, I'd say 10 % of the CS community uses aimbots and that is probably pretty conservative(I see about 1% blatant cheaters using some anti-recoil crap and an aimbot that even my grandma would spot, since there are much more subtle aimbots the number of cheaters is probably huge).
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
10%? I think not... I've been playing CS more now (AGAH I HAVE TO STOP!), and I see innocent people get booted for h4x all the time. Just because someone has good headphones or knows where to shoot behind walls where people will hide doesn't mean they hack.
A friend of mine showed me how he would purposely make it look like he's tracking through walls and could get himself kicked/banned from practically any server. Needless to say, he's a good player, but since I've played w/ him over LAN, I know he doesn't cheat.
Anyway, for the 3 weeks or so I've been playing CS again, I've seen countless people get booted for suspected h4x, when I'm fairly confident they don't hack. How you say? just watch demos of players like HeatoN or Potti go pub at sogamed.com. Can anyone say 50-2?
<b>uber edit:</b> <i>I've even seen people admit to cheating, saying "Ill turn it off now" and the admin goes like "OK, but dun do it again or yuoll be kicked" . Seriously, the situation with CS is so awful that I like to go spec people on pubs just for fun sometimes.</i>
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acually ive heard about 90% of cs players hack and i'd believe since 45 of the 50 cs players i know hack.
however inocent peeps are banned all the time because i've seen really good people own like no other that i know don't hack.
50-2 bah try 48-0 after over a year of no cs on a map ive never played.
acually you'll find most hardcore dod players can do that, since in dod, you generally have to aim faster and more acuratly with guns like the karbiner.
Oo the shotgun in cs is so easy to use after using the shotgun in ns. SHooting people who move at crawling speeds after shooting microscopic aliens with cerlerity, oo its just so easy.
I laughed my **** off at that one.
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This is a dangerous blanket statement. I have a 5 button mouse and have different weapon mappings for each evolution. The buttons are remapped by seperate cfg's (gasp) that are execed when I choose the evolution (bind kp_+ "impulse 116; exec fade.cfg"). By this defination, this is an exploit. To say that using this is exploitive is a joke. All it does is remap keys that are bound to various weapon slots. Any league that would disallow that is garbage. This makes me glad I never got involved in competitive play.
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Not according to that statement...
And they will see that it's protected by the same **** as CS, the god almighty VAC!!!!!!!!
That means, all of their cheats that work in CS will work for NS too!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
Put it this way you know how if you switch so fast and attack it will attack but show no animation, well somehow these peeps mangage to blink then swipe 3 times SO FAST no animation ever plays. I can prob go out to some server and get demos of this if peeps are confused. But to me that is the cheapest freaking exploit in the game. yeah woohoo go useful armor.
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first of all attacking 3 times instantly in a row is impossible without a speedhack, and if they had that, you would be easily able to hear it and spot it. you probably just lag or the fade is good and hit you with 2-3 swipes in a row without missing.
what most ppl dont understand is how fast you can change your weapons with hud_fastswitch1 and some quick fingers. i have had countless acusations made against me for using blink/swipe or leap/bite scripts, when all i honestly do is hit 3, blink, hit 1 while in the air, and then attack said marine. you can do this incredibly fast, and sometimes i think faster than the limit that is imposed on at least leap/bite. i have leapt then switched to bite instantly trying to bite a marine right in front of me, and i have killed them before without the bite attack playing on my screen, yet i still get a bite kill.
Put it this way you know how if you switch so fast and attack it will attack but show no animation, well somehow these peeps mangage to blink then swipe 3 times SO FAST no animation ever plays. I can prob go out to some server and get demos of this if peeps are confused. But to me that is the cheapest freaking exploit in the game. yeah woohoo go useful armor.
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first of all attacking 3 times instantly in a row is impossible without a speedhack, and if they had that, you would be easily able to hear it and spot it. you probably just lag or the fade is good and hit you with 2-3 swipes in a row without missing.
what most ppl dont understand is how fast you can change your weapons with hud_fastswitch1 and some quick fingers. i have had countless acusations made against me for using blink/swipe or leap/bite scripts, when all i honestly do is hit 3, blink, hit 1 while in the air, and then attack said marine. you can do this incredibly fast, and sometimes i think faster than the limit that is imposed on at least leap/bite. i have leapt then switched to bite instantly trying to bite a marine right in front of me, and i have killed them before without the bite attack playing on my screen, yet i still get a bite kill. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Any decent fade should be able to change from blink-swipe quickly.
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Not really an exploit either, anyone with fast reflex should have an easy time pulling it off.
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But apparently it IS an exploit if you change the lastinv bind from q to z with a cfg file.
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Some of my scores in cs were around 50 kills and under 10 deaths, that was until i got grounded from cs for 3 months, then after that i regained some skills, created a clan and went to cal <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> my clan broke up, and i discovered natural selection <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> If you go to good servers for cs such as netfragz you will never see hackers EVER ive seen people get 80-2 and they were not hacking, and not playin noobs, skill is out thier dont mistake it for hacks unless you get shot through a wall several times ( extra-emphasis on several, i kill people through walls some times on accident and some times on purpose to get those stupid campers ) now go play ns
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cs noob...
I don't view scripting itself as an exploit. Key mapping and communication scripts are hardly exploits. However when you USE scripting to take advantage of an exploit in the game, well, its an exploit <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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name haku
wow, i didnt know writing my name was an exploit, i should tell all the admins in the world to ban me becouse i changed my name in the console which is a huge exploit. JK. why the heck do you think we have a console?
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The best way to avoid trolls and flames is to ignore them.
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You are right, i apologize to every one that i may have flamed, sorry guys, i was just getting mad
Good script would be like
bind k "impulse 91; say_team I'm building an offense chamber here"
A bad script would be one that lets you jump around like an idiot super fast or slash while blinking(not to be confused with lastinv)
Something that helps or makes it more convienient for you is fine. Something that gives you an unfair advantage is a bad script.
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You are right, i apologize to every one that i may have flamed, sorry guys, i was just getting mad <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Especially when you are flaming someone who:
a) was the first person to help you and warn you about flamers
b) agrees 100% with you
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You are right, i apologize to every one that i may have flamed, sorry guys, i was just getting mad <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Especially when you are flaming someone who:
a) was the first person to help you and warn you about flamers
b) agrees 100% with you
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Did i flame you? I know you agree with my i dont think i flamed you, did i? can you show me the post were i did, really sorry man if i did <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
ya i noticed ive been really getting involved in my thread lol, and no prob with the netfragz server, they have like 5 or something <a href='http://www.netfragz.com' target='_blank'>NetFragz</a> well just take a look
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Or go to the official CS forums and take a gander at the config/alias/bind forum. The scripts there can mostly be adapated to NS.
Standard blink-swipe script for insertion into all scripting threads follows. Standby...
alias +blink_swipe "wait; weapon_blink; wait; +attack"
alias -blink_swipe "wait; -attack; wait; weapon_swipe"
bind "<key>" "+blink_swipe"
Hold assigned button to blink, release to auto switch to swipe.
Special New Years Eve bonus script insertion....Marine weapon toggle.
alias fast_slot1 "weapon_machinegun; weapon_shotgun; weapon_heavymachinegun; weapon_grenadegun"
alias fast_slot2 "weapon_pistol; weapon_welder; weapon_mine"
alias weapon_toggle "go_slot2"
alias go_slot1 "fast_slot1; alias weapon_toggle go_slot2"
alias go_slot2 "fast_slot2; alias weapon_toggle go_slot1"
bind "<key>" "weapon_toggle"
Pressing the assigned key will switch to your pistol/mines/welder. Pressing again switches back to LMG/HMG/Shotty/GL. Will toggle between the two regardless of last inventory used. i.e. LMG out, switch to knife, hit weapon_toggle and pistol comes out, hit again LMG comes out rather than knife. Gets around having to reset lastinv everytime you die or build something.
Enjoy.
If you have any other questions about an alias/script you're trying to write I will try and help you out, just ask here.
Or go to the official CS forums and take a gander at the config/alias/bind forum. The scripts there can mostly be adapated to NS.
Standard blink-swipe script for insertion into all scripting threads follows. Standby...
alias +blink_swipe "wait; weapon_blink; wait; +attack"
alias -blink_swipe "wait; -attack; wait; weapon_swipe"
bind "<key>" "+blink_swipe"
Hold assigned button to blink, release to auto switch to swipe.
Special New Years Eve bonus script insertion....Marine weapon toggle.
alias fast_slot1 "weapon_machinegun; weapon_shotgun; weapon_heavymachinegun; weapon_grenadegun"
alias fast_slot2 "weapon_pistol; weapon_welder; weapon_mine"
alias weapon_toggle "go_slot2"
alias go_slot1 "fast_slot1; alias weapon_toggle go_slot2"
alias go_slot2 "fast_slot2; alias weapon_toggle go_slot1"
bind "<key>" "weapon_toggle"
Pressing the assigned key will switch to your pistol/mines/welder. Pressing again switches back to LMG/HMG/Shotty/GL. Will toggle between the two regardless of last inventory used. i.e. LMG out, switch to knife, hit weapon_toggle and pistol comes out, hit again LMG comes out rather than knife. Gets around having to reset lastinv everytime you die or build something.
Enjoy.
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That was the best site EVER
<a href='http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~counter-script/' target='_blank'>http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~counter-script/</a>