Don't Post If You Have Nothing To Say

InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
Right.

Quite recently in a number of topics I've been reading, people are coming in and posting a short line contrary to the general vibe of the thread.

For example:
Random Person 1: "Hey I really like this band, here's a bunch of reasons why." *well presented post*
Random Person 2: "I too like this band, here are my reasons." *adds more points to the discussion*
Random Idiot: "This band sucks."

<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b>If you have nothing good or positive to say about a certain subject, stay the hell away from that thread.</b></span>

Coming in and doing something like that is stupid for 4 reasons:
1.) It's a cheap attempt to raise your post-count.
2.) It ticks other people off because you're unsettling their good mood.
3.) You make yourself look like a spiteful hate-filled being.
4.) Noone is coming into your threads telling you your subject sucks. Show some respect.

So knock this crap off right now, it's really starting to annoy me and I'm sure a lot of the community agree with me.
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    This thread sucks.

    OLO jk... erm yea... even though this is prolly gonna get locked... please follow it.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Why lock it? I'd much prefer to see this stickied.
  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    Mods need to use the banstick more. There's a couple of names around here that more then deserve a ban. Mostly people who'll post cute +1 funnies, or just troll around the forums **** people off.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Dec 29 2003, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Dec 29 2003, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why lock it? I'd much prefer to see this stickied. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed. Common courtesy (now an uncommon thing, sadly) should always be encouraged.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Meh, people are entitled to their own opinions, if a guy comes in and says he doesnt like this and that, he should be able to.
    I always though of Off topic as a chatty place, not discussion where you cant let people disagree. Besides, Anime sux <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    From a postcount raising perspective, I agree. But quite frankly, if someone doesn't like what the thread's about and posts anyway I couldn't give a rat's backside. It really isn't worth getting worked up over.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Its not gonna happen, every time someone posts an idea/thought/suggestion/random whatever, SOMEONE just <i>has</i> to reply for some odd reason <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    Guys, he's talking about useless post, not posts that disagree.

    He wants people to have REASON in their posts, it's completely fine to have your own opinion as long as you give reasons to do so.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Yes. Much hate for people that post without contributing anything to the discussion. They post in almost every thread they read just to increase the size of their e-wang though their postcount.

    --Scythe--
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    OLD.


    statements like that. lol

    i hate that. sweet baby jesus in heaven, i hate that sentence. it's not even a sentence.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Look everyone! A perfect example of what this thread is about!

    Quote by Epidemic:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Meh, people are entitled to their own opinions, if a guy comes in and says he doesnt like this and that, he should be able to.
    I always though of Off topic as a chatty place, not discussion where you cant let people disagree. Besides, Anime sux  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Dec 30 2003, 05:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Dec 30 2003, 05:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look everyone! A perfect example of what this thread is about!

    Quote by Epidemic:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Meh, people are entitled to their own opinions, if a guy comes in and says he doesnt like this and that, he should be able to.
    I always though of Off topic as a chatty place, not discussion where you cant let people disagree. Besides, Anime sux  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    explain?
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    topics saying to not post anything if you have nothing to say suck!









    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Bosnian_CowboyBosnian_Cowboy Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17088Members, Constellation
    I think it's a matter of etiquette. I don't even think pointless and negative posts are the problem. The problem is that some people make an aggressive attack on the person who started the topic....for starting the topic. They don't just hate what the topic is about, they hate the topic thread itself.
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    I think your is the general sentiment which we all feel Inf. I know quite a few forumites on these boards that have the problem you spoke of.
  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    edited December 2003
    meh, i think this forum should just hide post counts. All they're worth is some serious ego boosting.

    edit [ fine ]
    dear anonymous spam****: you're what this thread is talking about. Half your posts in discussion are one lined uselessness.
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    edited December 2003
    Just remember - dropping names is the absolute quickest way to achieve a lock....

    Be mature, be ambiguous. Just don't be accusers <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dragon_Mech+Dec 29 2003, 07:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dragon_Mech @ Dec 29 2003, 07:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Dec 29 2003, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Dec 29 2003, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why lock it?  I'd much prefer to see this stickied. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed. Common courtesy (now an uncommon thing, sadly) should always be encouraged. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you sir, make a good point


    I vote for sticky
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    +1


    umm...I agree.

    because you r smart.


    (J/K, it's late for me, ok, goodnight)
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zig+Dec 30 2003, 12:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Dec 30 2003, 12:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Dec 30 2003, 05:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Dec 30 2003, 05:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Look everyone! A perfect example of what this thread is about!

    Quote by Epidemic:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Meh, people are entitled to their own opinions, if a guy comes in and says he doesnt like this and that, he should be able to.
    I always though of Off topic as a chatty place, not discussion where you cant let people disagree. Besides, Anime sux  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    explain? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Plus I think its ok to show ones different views.

    Ex.

    NS is the best mod ever!

    Person A. yes it is for these reasons
    Person B. OMG love it blabla keep up the great work Flayra

    Person C. Instead of saying this mod sux0rs!

    This mod has a lot of effort put into it but There are certain aspects that just dont go with me. Such as or I think the game does to much of blablablabla

    Forums are are supposed to be a place for everyone to "responsibly" share their thoughts and opinions.
    Whether they be in agreement or not.

    But yea, as infinitum the anime encyclopedia says, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (great name lol)
    I think there are better ways of expressing your thoughts then a simple. "OMG that sucks" and leaving it at that reponse.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    A one-liner may often be enough to answer any question a person has.

    You could always go the way the Firearms community has gone, which is to disable post counts in the OTF. That's mostly because the FA OTF is a horrible place that even adults cry when they see it, but still.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'll explain my reason to prove epidemic is one of the prime examples of this thread:

    Case in point:
    Quote by Epidemic:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Meh, people are entitled to their own opinions, if a guy comes in and says he doesnt like this and that, he should be able to.
    I always though of Off topic as a chatty place, not discussion where you cant let people disagree. Besides, Anime sux  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First off, he's just being stupid. In discussion you CAN let people disagree, its merely having the smarts to beat them in a argument. Thats the point of it. Personally, it hurt my head after the 40th POTD in there, so I stopped, permenantly, and only go back if I feel like it.

    Secondly, he brought that "Anime sux" thing from another thread, which was probably Infinitum's last straw: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=57811&st=15' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...0&t=57811&st=15</a>

    Reason why that was, is because he posted it like that just to **** people off. We know he just wanted to do so.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited December 2003
    OK, I admit it, it wasnt one of my brightest posts around, but to my defence I'm suffering from a lack of sleep <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Also, if some guy disagree why give a rats **** about it. Retales didnt say it sucked, but he hated it.

    2nd edit, too many also's
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    one off posts are easy to ignore but after the 3rd 'I hate <topic here>' it does start to get irksome... they basically ruin the threads flow =/

    Imagine a group of people in real-life are sitting, having a few drinks and a giggle and chatting. Some topic or other comes up... as the coversation goes on, people walking by hear something that stirs certain feelings and they join in, taking a seat and debating or delighting in the chat. Then some guy, comes along without taking a seat and says "I HATE THAT" and walks off... the crowd is left looking at each other in confusion and the conversation hits a speedbump.

    If you don't plan on staying in the topic and contributing, negative or positive then why post at all? =o
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    I'm going to have to agree with Inf. While i don't feel negative feedback is a bad thing at all, i believe ignorant opinions with little or no explanation are just flat out rude.

    Using the anime threads as an example, every single one has a number of posts saying "Anime sucks". Is it REALLY so hard to say "Anime sucks, because ...." and then give explanation and reasoning behind your opinion? Personally, i'd rather be seen as someone with a differing opinion (The case if i had said "Anime sucks because...") rather than an ignorant jackass.

    Even one line posts can be acceptable, if there really is nothing more to say, but contributing 31853523 posts to a thread saying "Roffle Waffle" and ":P" leaves the reader wondering "Why the hell did you even bother to hit reply?".
  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    I agree, people should have something constructive to post when they do. Disagreeing with someone else's ideas or statements isn't a problem, but when you don't back up your statements and just wander off, its useless. Spam, of course, is another issue on the boards. Nearly every thread I go to, in every section of the forums, I see the same group of people either leaving a smily face, "lol", or any other 2-3 word 'sentence'. I honestly think it would do these boards some good if we either hid the postcount completely, or had a system set up like the Lunixmonster forum has (If a mod sees a spam post, they mark the thread as spam, the forum makes a "spam, -5 posts" notice in the spammer's message and deducts those 5 posts).
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    I don’t quite follow. Is it the length of the negative response that upsets you? A person can type out half a page and say nothing creative or insightful. I think so long as they aren’t violating the rules of the forum the can say whatever they want. I'll agree that there really is no point for a person to read/reply to a "What is the Best Anime" thread if they don’t care for Anime, but they are entitled to an opinion. If their opinion is offensive or disruptive (I guess "this suck" or "that sucks" could technically qualify as offensive) a mod should step in, otherwise there isn’t much we can do. What actually angers me more than the one liners, are long drawn out opinions that seem to defy every sense of logic known to mankind (IE a 2 page response to why a knife is a more legitimate weapon of death than a gun <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ). Anyhow I feel your pain, but I doubt that anything will change, one liners or not there will always be replies that totally ** us off.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--GreyPaws+Dec 30 2003, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Dec 30 2003, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don’t quite follow. Is it the length of the negative response that upsets you? A person can type out half a page and say nothing creative or insightful. I think so long as they aren’t violating the rules of the forum the can say whatever they want. I'll agree that there really is no point for a person to read/reply to a "What is the Best Anime" thread if they don’t care for Anime, but they are entitled to an opinion. If their opinion is offensive or disruptive (I guess "this suck" or "that sucks" could technically qualify as offensive) a mod should step in, otherwise there isn’t much we can do. What actually angers me more than the one liners, are long drawn out opinions that seem to defy every sense of logic known to mankind (IE a 2 page response to why a knife is a more legitimate weapon of death than a gun  <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->  ). Anyhow I feel your pain, but I doubt that anything will change, one liners or not there will always be replies that totally ** us off. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If someone bothers to type a long, drawn out reply going into detail the backgrounds and roots of their opinion, i don't see a problem. it could be misguided, it could be ill-informed, but they're actually trying to contribute something to the discussion.

    And yes, they are entitled to an opinion, but if you're reading a thread about <subject X> and you dislike <subject X> it's common courtesy to know that that is NOT the place to be shouting negative responses to <subject X>. If people stopped and actually thought for a second "Hey, these guys like <subject X>, and i really hate it, i don't think it is a good idea to post a negative response here" we wouldn't get any of these one-liner jackasses saying "OMG <SUBJECT X> SUXX)RR!!!1", and we definately wouldn't have these threads complaining about aformentioned morons.

    If you really do feel strongly against something, try making your own thread called "<subject X> sucks" and proceed to type all about why you think <subject X> sucks.

    *EDIT: Y'see, people don't actually care if you don't like the same things, we're all different, and anyone with an ounce of maturity understands that, but it is infuriating to say the least to see people show up and derail a thread that you're really enjoying contributing to with nothing but pure, moronic, ignorance, and to top it off, don't even bother to explain WHY.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i get it.

    i hope everyone solves the issues, as it seems the mods are being quite generous in letting us do so =]
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    actually i think people are entitled to speak freely on thier own opinion, sure it starts a flame war 90% of the time but thats because they dont state thier reason why the hate the topic so much.
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