Func_random

GiGaBiTe

i have looked for tutorials on how to make this entity work (and was unsuccessful.) and even looked at the way other maps used the func_random entity (ex. ns_siege007) but i cant seem to get a time delay door to open could one of you expert mappers tell me how, or make some map that shows how it works or a tut somewhere. any help would be appreciated. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

GiGaBiTe

geez noone uses this entity in any of their maps?

Moconnor

hehe i dont have any func_random in the editor!!
what .fgd are you using?

GiGaBiTe

the standard ns 2.0 one what else could i possibly be using?
decompile some of the siege maps (ex. siege007) they all use the func_random to use time delay doors lol.

Thaldarin

you mean the function in the momentary_door that delays the opening of the door?

GiGaBiTe

might be that but the siege maps use the entity func_random and env_message to tell when the door(s) are going to open i cant find this entity in any other mod

the keyvalues look something like this

name
shortest time
longest time
target on fire

ect...

i dunno go decompile a siege map and look at what entities it uses and how they seem to work

Thaldarin

Yeah, it will be trigger_presence (to open the door from the distance required) and a momentary_door (the key values you mentiond) for the door.

GiGaBiTe

ok that helps, but could you post an example of a timed door set for like 10 mins in a rmf?
(like in a siege map)

Erias

I notice a lot of people coming into this forum asking for RMF's.

I haven't noticed anyone giving someone an RMF.

Just an observation.

GiGaBiTe

lol ya but i dont want someones work to pirate off of

Evil_bOb1

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Evil_bOb1

Well it didn't seem like it was the trigger_random you where looking for but heres a little explanation on the entity itself for those who didn't know


quote from mapping guidelines:

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trigger_random (point entity)
Purpose: Fires one target from a list -- can be set to fire with random delays

[...]

Notes: This entity works like a multimanager: place the names of its targets as fields with a delay as the value. The trigger_random will select one entry out of the set you provide when triggered and fire it after the delay has passed.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Im not to sure how you set it up (im at my parents house for the holidays and don't have vhe here so cant check) But basicly you take off the smart edit (its a button in the entity properties). In the usual editing window will be a list of commands, you just add one as explained in the notes section of the mapping guildelines. In the field type the name of one of you're randomly triggered entities and enter the delay time for triggering (usually 0). You can add more than one target if you want the trigger_random to select out of a few entities.

A few usages : randomly trigger ambiance sounds or trigger a particle system a random times for small bursts of steam...


<a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/Mapping_Guidelines.html#trigger_random' target='_blank'>link to the trigger_random section in the mapping guidelines</a>

GiGaBiTe

now thats was the kind of help i was looking for thx dude

GiGaBiTe

well i set all the stuff right but it still dont work, hl says something like:

WARNING trigger_random 0 entities targeted/inhibited

even though the door is clearly named correctly in the trigger_random target box and its name is correct, i just dont get it lol. might have to give up on this map because these timed doors were the key to the whole map.

Wolv

/Fires up trusty ol' QuArK

OK, the masterwork better known as ns_siege007 uses a trigger_random to target the doors to the siege halls:<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->{
"siege" "value"
"minfiretime" "930"
"wait" "-1"
"maxfiretime" "930"
"spawnflags" "1"
"classname" "trigger_random"
}<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
There are 8 doors involved, one example being:<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->{
"angles" "-90 0 0"
"targetname" "siege"
"lip" "4"
"wait" "-1"
"stopsnd" "8"
"movesnd" "7"
"speed" "40"
"renderamt" "255"
"rendermode" "4"
"rendercolor" "0 0 0"
"spawnflags" "32"
"classname" "func_door"
}<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
Then there's a bunch of trigger_relays, ambient generics, func_wall_toggles and lights involved to make the beeping sound and light colors.

GiGaBiTe

ok i finally got it working. WTH it wants you to put a value in there not set one that is in the options box. thats so lame