Here's a little leaked information for you... if you're a marine, and you see me somewhere as a builder... don't chase me, because I'm leading you into a wall of 30 turrets that I have just constructed for your viewing pleasure.
lol Spyder <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> í will take a note on that <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> The new names are ok..... I do not miss bob anyways....
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ya, but i like lerk and onos <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
You guys are all talking about marines jumping. But what about a squad of skulks all bhopping down a hallway <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> Small, agile, extremely fast with bhop. mm Bhop past turrets as a skulk <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--Res1+Sep. 13 2002,13:45--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Res1 @ Sep. 13 2002,13:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bhop past turrets as a skulk <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Why not just walll climb or leap past? Bunnyhopping as a skulk seems pretty pointless to me <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Freemantle+Sep. 11 2002,14:55--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Freemantle @ Sep. 11 2002,14:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->If the throw distance is shorter, then it is more beneficial. If the weapon can be picked up midair, then a lot of the concerns for time issues are lost. I'm not suggesting this as a primary means of movement, but for stories in TFTFL where marines are running away from impossible odds, it could help.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> LOL I can see the stories in that! Marines get mass attacked and slaughtered, and the last remaining marine drops his weapons and legs it! <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> Good LORD that sounds like a movie!
75% of the time. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
but hey, Bhopping marines are dead if there is a level 5 round' cuz all the lvl 5 has to do is go in a strait line, gain speed, and <b>*CHOMP!*</b>
I think that the bile bombs belong to lerks...... Dunno.... anyways i think that a bhoping Onos would be something worth to look at <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> I wonder if it would looks like a wild horse, or like an elephant jumping (?<!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->) Heh.
You know what I say? I say they release the tutorial approx 1 hr. before the mod. Curious people will download it and play it, and unless it is complete crap (unlikey, Merk is the man), they will sorta like it and try out the mod. This way we both grab people's attention AND make sure there are fewer "Can I buy a hostage rescue zone as an alien? My ak 47 p_model is broken!11!!!!!" newbies.
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<!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Sep. 13 2002,22:26--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Sep. 13 2002,22:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->You know what I say? I say they release the tutorial approx 1 hr. before the mod. Curious people will download it and play it, and unless it is complete crap (unlikey, Merk is the man), they will sorta like it and try out the mod. This way we both grab people's attention AND make sure there are fewer "Can I buy a hostage rescue zone as an alien? My ak 47 p_model is broken!11!!!!!" newbies.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ROFL <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
"My C4 hissed at me and fired a spike at that guy over there!"
"N000B ONLY AMORON LIZZENS 2 T3H COMANDZEWR!!!1!! I PWNZ I DONT NE3D A COMANDANRE!A!!!1!1!!"
"Merkaba, STFU, you dont know anything, ive been playingthis mod before since you were ab baby! I was in beta .001!!1!!"
"These maps suckzorz! Its just a tiny room with 3 doors that say join marines, aliens, and spectators! I dont even like spectators! Wherez the gunzors? Im too 1337 for this!!1!1!111!!"
Feh, I'm going to spend the first week of so in a constant state of hysteria, spending every waking moment ensuring people learn how to play and have a fun time.
I'm not fricken kidding. I think it's a personality disorder or something. I just cannot stand people playing the game wrong, and I cannot stant people sitting around not having a fun time.
<!--QuoteBegin--Jammer+Sep. 13 2002,22:11--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Jammer @ Sep. 13 2002,22:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Heh. Newbs think they are sooooo good. We'll kick their butts!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dictionary.com says-- Newbie: One that is new to something, especially a novice at using computer technology or the Internet
So your saying that us ultra elite vets who have never played the game, simply wasted our lives away on the forums will whoop up on those who play other mods 24/7 and have no life?
Besides its more like the PT's kicken a$$, newbies learning fast, and us forumites saying "HELL YEA, IM A MEMBER OF THE [PAPRSD] GUILD, IM ULTRA ELITE, so guys really... what is going on?"
<!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Sep. 13 2002,22:14--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Sep. 13 2002,22:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Feh, I'm going to spend the first week of so in a constant state of hysteria, spending every waking moment ensuring people learn how to play and have a fun time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Why not spend the first week learning to play for yourself befor teaching others, remeber they have played NS a dozen times more than you since 0 hours x 12 still is 0......
I pick up games fast. Not just faster than others (I've got that down) but pretty darn fast. While the skills may not come with it, I had completely understood Jedi Knight by the 3rd-4th day I had it, and even complex games don't take very much time for me.
You should either pick up a game straight away (although tutorials are allowed in this) or its not a good game. I love complex games, especially games where you learn new things as you _but_ a game that is complex for no reason and doesnt allow you to learn it easily is just stupid.
There isnt a single game ive played which ive not picked up straight away... it just doesnt make sense that a game takes longer than that. I mean, you can learn more complex strategies later but the game should always be playable straight away. Like chess, easy to learn, difficult to master.
Chess is not such a good example for the "easy to learn, hard to master" maxim. There are many rules, and some of them quite difficult to explain (e.g. en passant).
The ultimate example of an incredibly simple yet incredible complex game would be Go (Wei-qi), in my opinion.
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<!--QuoteBegin--H'BNayr+Sep. 13 2002,21:18--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (H'BNayr @ Sep. 13 2002,21:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Seriously, though, I can't wait do get my hot little hands on a downloadable or printable manual.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Heh. Fam's working <b>reel</b> hard on it.
<!--QuoteBegin--CMEast+Sep. 14 2002,05:08--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (CMEast @ Sep. 14 2002,05:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Chess IS an easy game, there are a few rules that you might forget sometimes but its easy and even someone new can win a game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ummm, no?
Someone new against someone new, sure, obiously the newbie will win.
BUt, you take someone who's been playiung for a year, hell, a month, and they will wallop on those people who are total n00bs.
Why? The answer is simple. Real. Worl. Experience. If you've figured out how the gmae works, thats one thing, that will win you one game. Figure out how tactics work, and you win ten games (IE: The pin's, forks, traps, planning in advance, sacrifices, etc.)
But, to truely master a game, you not only have to master the game itself, you have to master your opponent too. Make him play off of his inexperience instead of his skill. Play to his emotions, that sort of thing.
Some people can figure out how a player will handle his pieces after the first 10 moves. They are truely the masters of the game.
Chess is, IMO, the best strategy game ever designed. Probably why it's held up for so long.
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The new names are ok..... I do not miss bob anyways....
also bunny hopping is one way to get a lot of marines to notice you and blast you away before you know what hit you...
Why not just walll climb or leap past? Bunnyhopping as a skulk seems pretty pointless to me <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
LOL I can see the stories in that! Marines get mass attacked and slaughtered, and the last remaining marine drops his weapons and legs it! <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> Good LORD that sounds like a movie!
I'm gonna have to do that sometime...
75% of the time. <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
but hey, Bhopping marines are dead if there is a level 5 round' cuz all the lvl 5 has to do is go in a strait line, gain speed, and <b>*CHOMP!*</b>
tasty marine sized bits! <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
what is the order of attacks for an onos anyway?
I know there's charge, primal roar, bile bombs, and paralyze, or at least that's what I've heard
R is for Release.
Heh.
Seriously, though, I can't wait do get my hot little hands on a downloadable or printable manual.
-Ryan!
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-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Dunno.... anyways i think that a bhoping Onos would be something worth to look at <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
I wonder if it would looks like a wild horse, or like an elephant jumping (?<!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->) Heh.
ROFL <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
teh funnay! u forgot "how do i buy guns"
"N000B ONLY AMORON LIZZENS 2 T3H COMANDZEWR!!!1!! I PWNZ I DONT NE3D A COMANDANRE!A!!!1!1!!"
"Merkaba, STFU, you dont know anything, ive been playingthis mod before since you were ab baby! I was in beta .001!!1!!"
"These maps suckzorz! Its just a tiny room with 3 doors that say join marines, aliens, and spectators! I dont even like spectators! Wherez the gunzors? Im too 1337 for this!!1!1!111!!"
The only one I haven't found much funny was the first onez0rs.
I'm not fricken kidding. I think it's a personality disorder or something. I just cannot stand people playing the game wrong, and I cannot stant people sitting around not having a fun time.
Dictionary.com says--
Newbie: One that is new to something, especially a novice at using computer technology or the Internet
So your saying that us ultra elite vets who have never played the game, simply wasted our lives away on the forums will whoop up on those who play other mods 24/7 and have no life?
Besides its more like the PT's kicken a$$, newbies learning fast, and us forumites saying "HELL YEA, IM A MEMBER OF THE [PAPRSD] GUILD, IM ULTRA ELITE, so guys really... what is going on?"
Why not spend the first week learning to play for yourself befor teaching others, remeber they have played NS a dozen times more than you since 0 hours x 12 still is 0......
There isnt a single game ive played which ive not picked up straight away... it just doesnt make sense that a game takes longer than that. I mean, you can learn more complex strategies later but the game should always be playable straight away. Like chess, easy to learn, difficult to master.
The ultimate example of an incredibly simple yet incredible complex game would be Go (Wei-qi), in my opinion.
Heh. Fam's working <b>reel</b> hard on it.
Ummm, no?
Someone new against someone new, sure, obiously the newbie will win.
BUt, you take someone who's been playiung for a year, hell, a month, and they will wallop on those people who are total n00bs.
Why? The answer is simple. Real. Worl. Experience. If you've figured out how the gmae works, thats one thing, that will win you one game. Figure out how tactics work, and you win ten games (IE: The pin's, forks, traps, planning in advance, sacrifices, etc.)
But, to truely master a game, you not only have to master the game itself, you have to master your opponent too. Make him play off of his inexperience instead of his skill. Play to his emotions, that sort of thing.
Some people can figure out how a player will handle his pieces after the first 10 moves. They are truely the masters of the game.
Chess is, IMO, the best strategy game ever designed. Probably why it's held up for so long.
BTW: I've been playing it since I was 3.