Need Basic, Free Image Editor

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">must be 100% free for commercial use</div>At work we only have one copy of Photoshop, and its on my boss's pc, and so whenever I need an image made I must send him an email and it will probably be around 15 minutes before he sends it to me, and I need a slight tweak and the process repeats 4 times.

I'm trying to find a simple image editor that can do basic basic things. Like, save as JPEG or GIF, copy & paste from windows clipboard, resize & crop, and do transparency (for transparent gif editing). I'm not going to be doing fancy stuff, I'm just tired of not being able to do basic edits myself.

The catch is though, it must be completely free for commercial use.

If anybody knows of a software package (besides Gimp), please let me know.

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  • FlikFlik Join Date: 2003-09-28 Member: 21286Members
    edited December 2003
    Have you tried... MsPaint?

    If not that, then you can just download the 30 day trial of Ps8.

    <a href='http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=39' target='_blank'>http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/mai....jsp#product=39</a>
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited December 2003
    As always when looking for free software like this, my first turn was to <a href='http://sourceforge.net' target='_blank'>SourceForge</a>. I haven't downloaded either of these to try them, but they seem like they could be enough for you. <a href='http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscape/' target='_blank'>Inkscape</a> is "aiming for capabilities similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw, Visio, etc.", and <a href='http://sourceforge.net/projects/jdraw/' target='_blank'>JDraw</a> is "especially for small to medium-sized pictures used to decorate web pages. It is entirely written in Java, simple and easy to use and saves (animated) GIFs, ICOs and PNGs"

    [edit]And if neither of those does what you need, the site does have a search function. Image Editor or Graphic Editor should work fine for search terms.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <a href='http://www.gimp.org/' target='_blank'>Gimp's</a> free.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If anybody knows of a software package (besides Gimp), please let me know<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    SourceForge is your friend, as is Download.com and...Google.

    You might wanna try PaintShop Pro by Jasc, which is free for 60 days, it's a very nice app.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Dec 18 2003, 12:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Dec 18 2003, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At work we only have one copy of Photoshop, and its on my boss's pc, and so whenever I need an image made I must send him an email and it will probably be around 15 minutes before he sends it to me, and I need a slight tweak and the process repeats 4 times.

    I'm trying to find a simple image editor that can do basic basic things. Like, save as JPEG or GIF, copy & paste from windows clipboard, resize & crop, and do transparency (for transparent gif editing). I'm not going to be doing fancy stuff, I'm just tired of not being able to do basic edits myself.

    The catch is though, it must be completely free for commercial use.

    If anybody knows of a software package (besides Gimp), please let me know. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you're in a company that just has a single copy and more are required, i feel it might be a good idea to suggest they buy another license or two.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    What is it about Gimp you don't like?

    b/c I would also say Gimp, simply b/c of this:

    <a href='http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/' target='_blank'>Grokking The Gimp</a>

    An entire book (available for free online) on how to use the gimp well. And as the name implies it isn't simply "well if you use x y and zeffects you get a cool dropshadow effect"

    Its, well this tool does this, and this one does this, and thus you can see that if you combine tool A and Tool B Like so it gona create this nifty effect.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    The GIMP is quality, try that. It's the next best thing to Photoshop and it's free.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    IrfanView!

    <a href='http://www.irfanview.com/' target='_blank'>it's a link OMGH4X</a>
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    Can't you use paint shop pro shareware indefinitely?
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    Irfanview rocks your socks. It's so utterly simple for cropping and resizing, plus it can open/save about any image file.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SillyGoose+Dec 17 2003, 09:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SillyGoose @ Dec 17 2003, 09:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Irfanview rocks your socks. It's so utterly simple for cropping and resizing, plus it can open/save about any image file. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and you can pick the compression ratio of jp(e)g files
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    GIMP may be free to us, but not necessarily for commercial use, you should look into that. Gimp is quite good though, possibly better than you need as it is basically an open source photoshop which might be overkill for cropping and resizing.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    GIMP's worth it. I'm fairly certain it's allowed to be used in even a production environment, so long as the code itself is not being repackaged and sold. After all... it's open-source software. Not shareware or a 'trial' version of a full product.

    Learning curve is just as steep as Photoshop, only reason more people don't use it is that preconceived notion that since it's free, more powerful, and isn't a Corporate Brand Name, it must be hard.

    <b>Wrong.</b>

    Sure, the more advanced capabilities do take time to learn, but have you ever actually sat down and played with the high-end Photoshop crud? PS is just as bad, and far more cryptic.. relying on that you know what the difference is between the broken-paperclip-left and upside-down-squiggle icons.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    is it just me, or did DOOManiac say

    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+TOP OF THE THREAD!--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ TOP OF THE THREAD!)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If anybody knows of a software package <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b><span style='color:Green'>(besides Gimp)</span></b></span>, please let me know<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think he knows about gimp, or doesn't want to use it



    what OS does the work computer have?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Indeed I can't stand the way Gimp looks. No MDI = Dumb dumb dumb + very annoying. OS is Win XP
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Dec 18 2003, 05:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Dec 18 2003, 05:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Indeed I can't stand the way Gimp looks. No MDI = Dumb dumb dumb + very annoying. OS is Win XP <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Who's MDI?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    MDI = Multiple Document Interface

    I.E. You open one program and then open several windows, but each window is contained in that one program (like Photoshop and PSP are, and how Word used to be)

    With Gimp it puts each and every image open as its own window, even the toolbars. So instead of having things organized its all chaotic and crap. Not to mention you can still see every window behind it, so you'd have to minimize everything and change your desktop to just a color to not get a splitting headache...
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    That is the precise reason I don't like gimp. Too cluttered when using multiple files.



    I will support what others have said and support infranview. Its very simple, easy to use, and free.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    blink blink

    I assume your are running under windows (as how you have commented on how all of your coworkers are rabbid linux monkeys)
    Last time I poked at Gimp in Windows it WAS all in one window instead of different ones

    Fun note: For referance to the darkest most scary of your linux monkey coworks:
    Vampiric Linux Gnome (then again gnome rock <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Dec 18 2003, 09:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Dec 18 2003, 09:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Last time I poked at Gimp in Windows it WAS all in one window instead of different ones <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What the hell version was that?

    As this <a href='http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/s5.jpg' target='_blank'>screenshot</a> clearly indicates, GIMP for win32 uses multiple windows.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Indeed, that's exactly what I'm talking about...

    Oh and Irfanview is no go either, as accordig to the licensing agreement its not for commercial use...
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    oh well

    must have been tripping <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But, I do agree with doom on that account.

    Having the lots of windows sorta sucks in windows (well windows is a crapy window manager <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
    Where as working ussing black/fluxbox (my window managers of choice <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) it is realy simple to use something like that.

    to bad.
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    Yeah i guess thats my pet peeve with GIMP too. But seriously, just use it. You're at work and work's not meant to be fun, get your job done! [/scolding]

    <i>Edit:</i> Hey cool, fluxbox is pretty sweet.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dr_Shaggy+Dec 19 2003, 03:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr_Shaggy @ Dec 19 2003, 03:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>Edit:</i> Hey cool, fluxbox is pretty sweet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tabbed windows... Mmmm.....

    As for GIMP, GTK doesn't seem to support MDI without additional components, at least not in the MS Windows sense of the term.
  • Hand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_AgainHand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_Again Join Date: 2002-02-07 Member: 178Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Dec 19 2003, 04:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Dec 19 2003, 04:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> MDI = Multiple Document Interface <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    One of the things I hate most about Windows - the stupid, stupid way you have one big window containing lots of smaller ones. It breaks horribly when you have more than one monitor, and still looks vile if you're using several applications on one screen at the same time. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    With a half-decent window manager (on UNIXy-type systems) the Gimp's interface becomes a non-issue. It's actually pretty similar to the standard interface style on the Mac, which is where I first used Photoshop - the MDI thing in the Windows version of Photoshop seems very strange to me.

    Of course, my ranting doesn't help, and this isn't any use if you're using Windows - but the modern, development versions of the Gimp might be more suitable for what you need. You can 'dock' a lot of the sub-windows together, drastically reducing the number floating around. I've no idea if there are any pre-compiled versions for Windows yet, or if it's even been ported, but it should make things a bit more friendly for people using Windows. Should be worth a look...

    I've been using the program since late 1997 - it does all my photography stuff, I do textures with it, and I even make money with it. Go me! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Perhaps one day I'll be able to afford Photoshop, but I don't think I'll bother getting it...
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