Just A Cheater--

ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
edited December 2003 in General Server Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">i think :P</div> Wonid 210656

Look specially as he uses the pistol and the part where the skulk comes out of the vent in the middle of a firefight.

Player is: Sf.edition - e|MAD|

The file: <a href='http://www34.brinkster.com/fscript/oh_noes_hax.zip' target='_blank'>http://www34.brinkster.com/fscript/oh_noes_hax.zip</a>

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  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    File cannot be accessed by direct linking <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • S_BadguyS_Badguy Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23925Members
    Yup yup.. im gorgasmic, I got a snappyshot of the list of users, I was pretty sure you had the demo, and if you are having hosting problems... I can host the demo, caus I hate cheaters.
    Gigly rules or whatever was his name at the time, then chili dog etc etc... its amazing watching a skulk teleport into you base, and watch your comm chair dissapear in seconds...
  • S_BadguyS_Badguy Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23925Members
    Hope the steam server admins have fun with that steam ID... I sure know I would, I just wonder where he keeps getting approved CD keys.
  • S_BadguyS_Badguy Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23925Members
    ALSO... to download from a site which prevents remote linking, just open a new browser window, and paste the link in there to watch. I am pretty sure that charge will agree with me that gigly is the hacker demo'd.
  • Mr7Mr7 Join Date: 2003-07-21 Member: 18314Members
    it didnt seem that dodgy to me tbh... are you accusing him of aimbot? if so there making it a lot harder to notice. it use to swing the aim right around and lock dead on, unless you can change the sensativity?
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    WON demo. The aimbot is obvious. Look at when he uses pistol and the last scene. Right click the link and Save As.
  • S_BadguyS_Badguy Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23925Members
    Ahhh.. I may not be posting about the same person then, because the one I am posting about was using a most obvious speed hack. Teleporting onos, skulk, instant lerk spike kills... always starting a map vote to prevent kicking. Its Yolt, not to mention he changed his name to CSC Yolt when I left.
  • ThE_HeRoThE_HeRo Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12723Members
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ThE HeRo+Dec 19 2003, 02:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThE HeRo @ Dec 19 2003, 02:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    spam!1oneone
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->love the ascii NS - powered by ATi smart shader<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ahahahaha <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, don't you just find smart shaders usefull though *cough*? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    edit: yeah it's really obvious he's cheating... I don't know how they think they can get away with it, maybe they just don't care if they are banned from one server or they have stolen CD-keys up the wazzo...

    edit:<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->it didnt seem that dodgy to me tbh... are you accusing him of aimbot? if so there making it a lot harder to notice. it use to swing the aim right around and lock dead on, unless you can change the sensativity?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There are more than one type of aimbot, there are even aimbots with smooth aim, it transitions to a target during several frames and it does not try to track something when it is out of range. An afker using such an aimbot was banned from the european vogruu server. He was standing in marine spawn for like 15 minutes aiming perfectly at aliens passing by and not shooting(if that's not dead give away I don't know what is).

    There are aimbots that are not allways on(I guess they are toggled or turned on while holding a key or something). Anyone who cares the least about being detected would obviously not go around pwning everything when it even showed as much as a claw around a corner that is too obvious.

    Keep in mind that a demo does not record what the person you are spectating is seeing, there are ping times involved, what you see him doing is "out of sync" with what he see's, but if blood sprites are drawn that means a hit and somebody killing a skulk without a single miss when it is running allover the place is a pretty obvious sign, spec some more, if that behaviour was not just insane luck it will continue and if it does then obviously he's cheating.

    Some good signs of an aimbot are:

    - when it snaps out of tracking a target, the screen just pops to a very different angle(which could also happen if lagging, but if it happens when just having killed an alien or loosing an alien out of sight then it's fairly obvious what's the cause.) (this is seen several times in this video)

    - When more than one target is on screen it jumps randomly from one to another.(this is seen when trying to shoot at 2 skulks with a pistol in this video)

    - Snapping to a target with ungodly accuracy in what seems like on frame, this is super obvious and only really stupid aimbots would do this.(this is seen more than once in this video)

    -tracking things that are too close and moving to fast for anybody to possibly track and doing it with perfect accuracy or going in and out of tracking and normal view(really jerky view, no one would ever have a reason to flip back and forth 120 degrees in the duration of a frame every few frames, this is pretty obvious).

    These are obvious cheats, I don't dare to think how many people have less obvious aimbots that they use carefully(Ie turn on when they don't think anyone is spectating and they actually need to use it), and even worse wallhacks and ESP. Sadly I don't think it would be hard to code an aimbot that checked if anyone might be spectating(either by being dead and on your team or through spectator mode) since the client has access to that information and unconditionally turned of the cheats when someone might be watching you.

    I've seen 5 obvious cheaters first hand and I have been playing since 1.02, they where all really obvious like this guy here(as well as a selfconfessed speedhacker/wallhacker/aimbotter who had an affinity for mic spamming(I would like to think cheaters are all <12-year olds who don't know better but sadly this guy sounded more like a drunk 30 year old. You see, 12-year olds are unlikely to have access to a computer good enough to run half-life 2 well... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->), but he got permanently banned within a few minutes and didn't come back).

    It is incredibly hard to tell from thirdperson and you don't begin to spectate them before you actually suspect them, and wallhacks and ESP are even more hard to spot(and not as usefull as in other games, what with the motion tracking/scent of fear thing) <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • aonomusaonomus Dedicated NS Mastermind (no need for school) Join Date: 2003-11-26 Member: 23605Members, Constellation
    I really don't know what goes through cheaters minds when they do this, its like they do it for amusement at first... 'wow i can knife a hive in 10 seconds' but then it gets boring later so they just cheat for laming up legit games...

    Cheaters usually have no life and play cs
  • ChargeCharge Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13144Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Soylent green+Dec 19 2003, 05:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Dec 19 2003, 05:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->love the ascii NS - powered by ATi smart shader<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ahahahaha <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, don't you just find smart shaders usefull though *cough*? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well, i like the shader that makes all black corners bright orange <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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