[mreq] Smg/ar Models To Replace Lmg
Forlorn
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">Started off an idea in the I&S forum...</div> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=53127&st=0' target='_blank'>My request is based from here!</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->LMG right now is:
10 dmg at lv. 0 per bullet
50 bullets per clip, 250 reserve
Deals 500 a clip
Has ROF of roughly 12 bullets a second
SMG:
8 dmg at lv. 0 per bullet
60 bullets per clip, 250 reserve (can't go above 250 reserve, engine limitation)
Deal 480 a clip
Has ROF of roughly 15 bullets a second
Innaccurate after a fairly short range
AR:
12 dmg at lv. 0 bullet
40 dmg per clip, 200 reserve (This would make it five clips like the LMG does)
Deals 480 a clip
Has ROF of roughly 8 bullets a second (LMG/SMG deals 120 per second... this thing would deal 96 a second, making it less preferable for close range fighting)
Accurate, small spread
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I would like a model based around these numbers.
The SMG and AR model would have to match each other a little, to fit a theme.
I think I may already have an SMG model:
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-19-1059297509.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
This is all I could find after combing through the forums that apealed to me most, from <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-19-1059297509.jpg' target='_blank'>here.</a> It would fit best as a SMG model.
If you are lazy, DL that model, skin it grey/bluish (to fit with the overall TSA theme), then make a corresponding AR model.
If you don't want to reskin the other kid's model (because you can't get his permission), then you can always just make two weapons of your own.
Just remember, they have to look nice, not be buggy, and fit with the current TSA color scheme. It would also look nice if they were related to each other somehow.
I know this is a lot to ask for, but it would be incredibly cool to see this become a reality.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->LMG right now is:
10 dmg at lv. 0 per bullet
50 bullets per clip, 250 reserve
Deals 500 a clip
Has ROF of roughly 12 bullets a second
SMG:
8 dmg at lv. 0 per bullet
60 bullets per clip, 250 reserve (can't go above 250 reserve, engine limitation)
Deal 480 a clip
Has ROF of roughly 15 bullets a second
Innaccurate after a fairly short range
AR:
12 dmg at lv. 0 bullet
40 dmg per clip, 200 reserve (This would make it five clips like the LMG does)
Deals 480 a clip
Has ROF of roughly 8 bullets a second (LMG/SMG deals 120 per second... this thing would deal 96 a second, making it less preferable for close range fighting)
Accurate, small spread
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I would like a model based around these numbers.
The SMG and AR model would have to match each other a little, to fit a theme.
I think I may already have an SMG model:
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-19-1059297509.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
This is all I could find after combing through the forums that apealed to me most, from <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-19-1059297509.jpg' target='_blank'>here.</a> It would fit best as a SMG model.
If you are lazy, DL that model, skin it grey/bluish (to fit with the overall TSA theme), then make a corresponding AR model.
If you don't want to reskin the other kid's model (because you can't get his permission), then you can always just make two weapons of your own.
Just remember, they have to look nice, not be buggy, and fit with the current TSA color scheme. It would also look nice if they were related to each other somehow.
I know this is a lot to ask for, but it would be incredibly cool to see this become a reality.
Comments
2.) NS isnt about guns, its about strategy (an lmg in the hands of the experienced can be the deadliest weapon of all)
Try reading about the idea before even trying to make a comment like that.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1.) that smg is nthngsd's... (does he know you're using it as an example)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I need his permission to use it as an example? Uh... no...
Where did you get that hud?
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with meh lovely spray <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Where did you get that hud?
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thx god for Search
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=29668' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=19&t=29668</a>
and yes, SMGs would rock in NS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
There already is weapon prediction code in NS.
<span style='font-size:27pt;line-height:100%'><b>ALL HAIL THE MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS, Sir Jamil</b></span>
Try actually reading the suggestion or, at the very least, Forlorn's original post. kkthxbi
I don't think that you'll see a SWAT team of 9 men, 2 with MP5's, 3 with M4A1's and three with bazook... G36's, and one with a shotgun.
LMG's is what the TSA's use, and if their mission require it, they have the materials to construct heavy machineguns.
You don't need HMG's to kill skulks. Their objectives is to eliminate the threat, not decorate the wall with them.
And remember, shotguns are mobile siege units, and grenade launchers are "cleaners".
the german mp44 assault rifle looks similiar to an ak47, the gun in the piccy doesnt look similiar to an AK or a mp44 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
This idea has not been promised to be implimented by ANYONE correct? That's even assuming you GET the modelers permissions to use them once done.
So what is the purpose of this exactly? Just for the heck of it?
Let me just say this: it's been said before "There are ENOUGH guns in ns! PERIOD."
You might say, well brig got his grenades into NS. Yes this is true, but they are not guns, nor are they very good at killing anything might i add, i've never even been able to take out an OC with those things, but that's besides the point. The point is if you want a long range killer, get an hmg, if you want a short range killer get a shotgun. If you want something for both, GET AN LMG.
I'm not saying your idea is stupid and you should give up, i'm just saying that you might want to actually get the dev team on your side first, if at all.
I don't think that you'll see a SWAT team of 9 men, 2 with MP5's, 3 with M4A1's and three with bazook... G36's, and one with a shotgun.
LMG's is what the TSA's use, and if their mission require it, they have the materials to construct heavy machineguns.
You don't need HMG's to kill skulks. Their objectives is to eliminate the threat, not decorate the wall with them.
And remember, shotguns are mobile siege units, and grenade launchers are "cleaners". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What the hell are you talking about?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So let me get this straight, you want to round up two models for your idea about NS.
This idea has not been promised to be implimented by ANYONE correct? That's even assuming you GET the modelers permissions to use them once done.
So what is the purpose of this exactly? Just for the heck of it?
Let me just say this: it's been said before "There are ENOUGH guns in ns! PERIOD."
You might say, well brig got his grenades into NS. Yes this is true, but they are not guns, nor are they very good at killing anything might i add, i've never even been able to take out an OC with those things, but that's besides the point. The point is if you want a long range killer, get an hmg, if you want a short range killer get a shotgun. If you want something for both, GET AN LMG.
I'm not saying your idea is stupid and you should give up, i'm just saying that you might want to actually get the dev team on your side first, if at all.
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Let me get this straight. This is the NS custimization forum, right?
So in other words, I want to custimize MY NS so that sometimes, I could play with some nice quality SMG looking model (which is actually my LMG), or a nice quality looking AR (which is actually an LMG). Who CARES if it's never put in.
All of this stuff is just to detail the look of the damn game, right? So what difference does it make?
Back on topic; I would like to see some nice looking models for this.
And the orginal and basic premise of the entire idea was to add a bit more depth to the starting game as well as kill some of the redundancy of it.
You want a model that looks like a rifle for when you're in the mood for a rifle, and another model that looks like an SMG for when you're in the mood for an SMG. I think, had you not confused everyone with your original post, people would have told you some of the following things:
1. "Search is your best friend".
2. "Use the search, buddy".
3. "Don't use the search at the top, use the one at the bottom".
4. "Here's an SMG and here's a rifle! They are cool! You should use them!(me)".
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5. "Search".
God, this is among the worst request threads ever.
You want a model that looks like a rifle for when you're in the mood for a rifle, and another model that looks like an SMG for when you're in the mood for an SMG. I think, had you not confused everyone with your original post, people would have told you some of the following things:
1. "Search is your best friend".
2. "Use the search, buddy".
3. "Don't use the search at the top, use the one at the bottom".
4. "Here's an SMG and here's a rifle! They are cool! You should use them!(me)".
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5. "Search".
God, this is among the worst request threads ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've already searched, and I've already shown what I've come up with. Congrats on being a fool.
I've also specified some other requirements, as that it's NOT JUST A REGULAR AR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TSA THEMED AR, AND THE SAME GOES FOR THE SMG!
Get it? I mean, holy damn, you'd think this was a simple request or something, but evidently I guess not... :/
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't think that you'll see a SWAT team of 9 men, 2 with MP5's, 3 with M4A1's and three with bazook... G36's, and one with a shotgun.
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Umm.... Yes, yes you would see that. what you would NEVER see is a SWAT team comprised of 9 men with the same weapon. Overspecialization breeds weakness. It is common for CQB teams like a SWAT team to carry 1 shotgun for pointman, 3 Assault Rifles for 2nd and 2nd Last man, 3 SubMachineguns for those in the Middle, and a Heavier Weapon, Usually a SAW (For Military teams) or another Assault Rifle (For Police Teams)
Military CQB teams rarely carry SMGs, so they would probably be using Carbines instead.
The Half-Life engine can only handle 32 weapons so far 28 is used and if one more alien was to be added there would go the other four (and I believe a while back they were thinking of that hence why they kept the 4 open and probably WILL keep them open)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't think that you'll see a SWAT team of 9 men, 2 with MP5's, 3 with M4A1's and three with bazook... G36's, and one with a shotgun.
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Umm.... Yes, yes you would see that. what you would NEVER see is a SWAT team comprised of 9 men with the same weapon. Overspecialization breeds weakness. It is common for CQB teams like a SWAT team to carry 1 shotgun for pointman, 3 Assault Rifles for 2nd and 2nd Last man, 3 SubMachineguns for those in the Middle, and a Heavier Weapon, Usually a SAW (For Military teams) or another Assault Rifle (For Police Teams)
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Could I see a pic?
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The Half-Life engine can only handle 32 weapons so far 28 is used and if one more alien was to be added there would go the other four (and I believe a while back they were thinking of that hence why they kept the 4 open and probably WILL keep them open)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Errr.. there are 4 slots left. This idea would only take 1 extra slot, because the LMG is replaced.
Dont tell me to search either, it doesnt work for me.
But who gives a damn? If someone could make a nice looking AR model, it would be used, even if not for the suggested idea. So it's like any other mreq. Stop whining about the suggestion, and start whining about how you don't want to make a specific model idea of someone elses.
altho the pic isnt very clear, it looks like The guy in front with the tac shield has a pistol, the guy behind him has an SMG or carbine, the guy behind him has a carbine, the fourth guy has a pistol, and the last man is carrying a shotgun
<img src='http://www.tempe.gov/police/employment/swat.h15.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
I was adressing this, lol:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, My AR92 model was very much so a TSA themed weapon, although, Not everyone likes it. Oh well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I want to see a pic of this, from Brigrider Wolf!
Hahahahhahahahaha
Phew
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey where can I download that black model you have on the first post? Thank you.
Dont tell me to search either, it doesnt work for me.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The link is on the first post of this thread...
Dont tell me to search either, it doesnt work for me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
look in the official release topic for the NI IV by nthngnsd