I was just so miffed at U2 I couldn't help myself with that big rant post but I have high hopes for XMP. The only downer is I've never been a fan of the 'quake damage scale' as apposed to say... Halo's where you can actually gun people down rather fast if you knock out their shield (energy weapon to strip the shield in seconds, then switch to good old-fashioned bullets to carve them into meat paste in a couple of seconds.) I just like short intense fights (see marine versus skulk for example) as apposed to long drawn out ones where 2 individuals have to weaaaaaaar each other down =/
it's just so old and cliched and the only people who scream 'unfair' when they go down in a couple of hits or just one well-aimed one are those who don't have the skills. Rather than learn new techniques and the sound concept of 'survival' the games usually just get turned to rambo vs the terminator.
<!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Dec 7 2003, 12:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Dec 7 2003, 12:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean it's got quake damage where people chew on rockets like toothpicks and laugh at the bullets tickling their pecs of <b>STEEEEEEL</b>? =P <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, just when in close range, head to to head combat most people are trying to AVOID fire by using their boosting and their sprinting, a good gunner or tech could end it one hit though with a grenade. The thing is not many people use their boost when they don't know they're being targeted. Or they're busy trying to hack a deploy point/energy source to care (Yes people have thought a small thin pole would save you from a sniper shot...). Also the reason why there isn't a "godmode spawn" is because theres a lot of times when someone goes in to hack a deploy point that's critical for the other team/used a lot. Isn't exactly fair if you spend your time trying to take it and someone spawns and you can't kill them for a few sec. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Tech VS Tech shotguns or Gunner vs Gunner Rocket battles can last a while though... Even Ranger vs Ranger glock battles.
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<!--QuoteBegin--Tequila^+Dec 5 2003, 12:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila^ @ Dec 5 2003, 12:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Since when were a collection of pistols, a shotgun, an assault rifle, a grenade launcher and a rocket launcher considered original weapons? The only original weapon I can think of is the Spider Gun, but you can discount that because it's one dross weapon.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well this got me to thinking,
What do you mean by origional gun?
Isnt everything going to fall under pistol, shotgun, rifle, sniper rifle rocket/grenade launcher, flame thrower, laser, energy weapon bio gun,
bio gun ranging from, spidergun, snarks, that UT gun that shoots the green shot stuff etc
its like trying to reinvent the wheel. I mean look at the ALIENS M41 Pulse rifle, the Starship troopers Morita assault rifle or the one in Unreal they all do the same thing, might as well give them an M4 carbine with an underslung grenade launcher. Its all the same and thats fine. I thougt that BFG ( the blackhole cannon at the end) was creative, Perhaps way to powerful, but creative yes.
But unless you come up with some totaly bizzare weapon that shoots electrified refrigerators that are filled with rabid sheep and bunnys, then woudnt that be awkard?
Im just trying to say that coming up with a new "origional" gun that doesnt fall under under pistol, shotgun, sniper weapon. launcher isnt as easy as you think. Especialy when the characters that use them are military people.
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I was just so miffed at U2 I couldn't help myself with that big rant post but I have high hopes for XMP. The only downer is I've never been a fan of the 'quake damage scale' as apposed to say... Halo's where you can actually gun people down rather fast if you knock out their shield (energy weapon to strip the shield in seconds, then switch to good old-fashioned bullets to carve them into meat paste in a couple of seconds.)
I just like short intense fights (see marine versus skulk for example) as apposed to long drawn out ones where 2 individuals have to weaaaaaaar each other down =/
it's just so old and cliched and the only people who scream 'unfair' when they go down in a couple of hits or just one well-aimed one are those who don't have the skills. Rather than learn new techniques and the sound concept of 'survival' the games usually just get turned to rambo vs the terminator.
...wow, I'm really jaded amn't I? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
No, just when in close range, head to to head combat most people are trying to AVOID fire by using their boosting and their sprinting, a good gunner or tech could end it one hit though with a grenade. The thing is not many people use their boost when they don't know they're being targeted. Or they're busy trying to hack a deploy point/energy source to care (Yes people have thought a small thin pole would save you from a sniper shot...). Also the reason why there isn't a "godmode spawn" is because theres a lot of times when someone goes in to hack a deploy point that's critical for the other team/used a lot. Isn't exactly fair if you spend your time trying to take it and someone spawns and you can't kill them for a few sec. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Tech VS Tech shotguns or Gunner vs Gunner Rocket battles can last a while though... Even Ranger vs Ranger glock battles.
Since when were a collection of pistols, a shotgun, an assault rifle, a grenade launcher and a rocket launcher considered original weapons? The only original weapon I can think of is the Spider Gun, but you can discount that because it's one dross weapon.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well this got me to thinking,
What do you mean by origional gun?
Isnt everything going to fall under
pistol, shotgun, rifle, sniper rifle rocket/grenade launcher, flame thrower, laser, energy weapon bio gun,
bio gun ranging from, spidergun, snarks, that UT gun that shoots the green shot stuff etc
its like trying to reinvent the wheel. I mean look at the ALIENS M41 Pulse rifle, the Starship troopers Morita assault rifle or the one in Unreal they all do the same thing, might as well give them an M4 carbine with an underslung grenade launcher. Its all the same and thats fine. I thougt that BFG ( the blackhole cannon at the end) was creative, Perhaps way to powerful, but creative yes.
But unless you come up with some totaly bizzare weapon that shoots electrified refrigerators that are filled with rabid sheep and bunnys, then woudnt that be awkard?
Im just trying to say that coming up with a new "origional" gun that doesnt fall under under pistol, shotgun, sniper weapon. launcher isnt as easy as you think. Especialy when the characters that use them are military people.