Who Here Has Ever Followed The Esrb Guideline?

ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
edited November 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">I could bet a million dollars on this...</div> I'm sure most of us here are part of the anti-censorship camp, but even most of us agree that children (those under the age of 12), should be watching sex and violence, and that this age group should have censorship applied to them.

That being said, has anyone ever actually adhered to the guideline?

I think I first saw/played Wolfenstein 3D at like seven or eight, (movies would have had an even earlier history). Now looking at the ESRB, I'm sure that was an "M" game, which would make it 17+. Truth be told, my parents never really cared about me playing violent games, but even if you have parents that restrict violent games on your TV, wouldn't you usually go to a friend's house whose parents didn't care? And would you be insane enough to tell your friend, "I'm sorry. My parents don't want me to look at such cool games. I'll just stare at this wall until you finish playing."

If you were normal, (I'm assuming all of you), then what, if anything, could your parents have done in order to make sure you were technically old enough before you could play/view such games?

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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    It's such a difficult thing tho, I mean for some kids it's like water off a ducks back but to others it can cause some really serious psycological trauma. Censorship is there to protect that majority of children sex and violence harms.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Its kind if one of those things, at least in America, where we say "no kids shouldn't watch this" and then turn around and kind of on a subconscious level of the culture itself expect them to.

    For instance, back when I was in second grade, everybody had seen Robocop, an R rated movie that was very close to being rated X because it was so violent. Yet most of the boys had seen it. Same way w/ other R rated movies, all throughout life...
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    I was playing Duke Nukem at 8.

    Quake 2 at 10.

    HL at 13 I think.

    Vice City at 16.

    They never carded me for any game. Oh yeah, I now enjoy beating baby seals and my application to the NRA is in the mail.
  • P-KhanP-Khan Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16776Members
    Never did pay attention to it.
    At 7, I was playing MK. Duke Nukem at 7. Resident Evil at 11. GTA III at 13.

    I was, however, prohibited to buy Resident Evil; Code Veronica when it was released cause the guy from the store said I didn't look old enough for the ESRB rating (which I wasn't and I still aint)
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    I'm 11 now... so to hell with ESRB.
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    [ot]

    On vacation in the States, I got <i>carded</i> when I tried to buy Fallout. I'm 24 for god's sake!

    So I guess at least retailers follow the guidelines, if consumers don't.

    [/ot]
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    wow, ESRB is like Movie ratings, you CAN'T buy em?

    lol, I always figgured they were suggestions (not enforced)

    Then again my parents understand that I do know the difference between Reality and Fiction, thus I have always had an ok to go see what ever I felt like <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MalevolentMalevolent Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18842Members
    Yeah, I thought that the ESRB ratings were just suggestions too. Anyway, I was playin Mortal Kombat and other stuff when I was little and it hasn't affected me at all. I just don't see why people <i>let</i> it affect them, since it's just a game.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I never followed it, and I never will.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    ESRB is a suggestion but some stores enforce age policies.
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    I was playing Wolfenstein 3D when I was about 3...
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    DOWN WITH THE ESRB!! you can't protect your kids forever...you....you...stupid esrb
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    To put it simple: The Esrb guidelines are there for parents who can't find the time necessary to evaluate what kind of mentality their child has. In other words a necessity in the modern age.
  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    Heres what i think of them
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    edited November 2003
    Never did... I always played all the simulations and games that were supposed to be way above my intellectual level at that time... My first 'game' was Flight Simulator 2, I think... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited November 2003
    My parents wouldn't let me buy half-life, or any other first person shooter for that matter. I managed to get hold of SiN because my mum thought it was an "adventure" game. Can I get a rofl?

    So when I was 14 I bought half-life at a car boot sale when they wern't looking.

    Me 1, Overprotective parents, 0

    After that they didn't seem to mind any more. But then I was buying my own games by that point so they couldn't really stop me. Short of total computer bans but let's not go into my parent's torture devices.

    I'm not saying I hate my parents or anything, tbh that's the most unreasonable thing they've ever done, but still. I was 14. Fourteen for crying out loud and they wouldn't let me play the coolest game in the universe (at the time).

    *edit* went off-topic..... baleted *edit*
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    im 15 right now
    last year (14) i bought the following:
    GTA:III, GTA:VC, SOCOM, Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance and Half Life
    before that, i bought:
    Metal Gear Solid: Sons Of Liberty
    Before that:
    Metal Gear Solid
    Even earlier (when i was 11-12)
    Perfect Dark

    all of the above are rated M, i have a bunch more lying around, somewhere



    in short, hell no
  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Thansal+Nov 23 2003, 11:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thansal @ Nov 23 2003, 11:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Then again my parents understand that I do know the difference between Reality and Fiction, thus I have always had an ok to go see what ever I felt like <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly.

    I play ns or whatever and my dad plays Desert Combat, and he just bought me HALO:Combat Evolved for the PC. And im buying the Radeon 9600XT which is $400SGD here in singapore once it comes out.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited November 2003
    I hate reading threads like this where people are all "olo yeah i got hl when i was 4" and i'm like ":O"

    you **** shouldn't be making me feel old, i'm only 23 ffs...

    surely SOMEBODY else here saw Robocop when it was new? Anybody?
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    My parents were hippies, so they raised me very liberally.

    I have no curfew. They don't ask me where I'm going. They don't ask me who I'm with.

    It has bred nigh-on teenage alcoholism in me, but other than that, I get straight A's in school and even do community service.

    Then again, there are some kids who are just psycho, so the ratings aren't all bad. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Nov 23 2003, 08:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Nov 23 2003, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> surely SOMEBODY else here saw Robocop when it was new? Anybody? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    robocop was new? wth?
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Nov 23 2003, 10:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Nov 23 2003, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Nov 23 2003, 08:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Nov 23 2003, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> surely SOMEBODY else here saw Robocop when it was new? Anybody? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    robocop was new? wth? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea you know there was this time when you were a little kid and there were people OLDER than you.. wait they still are.... I remember when Robocop came out, and I watched it.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Nov 24 2003, 01:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Nov 24 2003, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate reading threads like this where people are all "olo yeah i got hl when i was 4" and i'm like ":O"

    you **** shouldn't be making me feel old, i'm only 23 ffs...

    surely SOMEBODY else here saw Robocop when it was new? Anybody? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeh I did and christ did it disturb me, there was some scary crap in that film at the time for a youngster. The shotgun + hand scene still makes me cringe when I see it today.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vulgar Menace+Nov 23 2003, 12:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vulgar Menace @ Nov 23 2003, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Heres what i think of them <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Vulgar, what exactly is your beef with the ESRB? For christ sakes they don't even enforce anything, they mearly rate the content so parents can make a decision on whether or not a particular title is appropriate for their kid. You don't hate the MPAA do you?...... Wait, no, don't naswer that...

    Personally I think parents protect their kids too much, to the point that it causes psychological harm when they are finally exposed to certain material. Seriously, why do parents (in the US anyways) feel the need to lie to their kids about the way the world really is? Why do they need to fill their heads with silly notions like Santa, the Toothfairy, God, the Easter Bunny, the Strork, ect?
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