Steam For Cyber Café And Natural Selection

ikirikir Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18265Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
<div class="IPBDescription">A question to the team</div> We are going to sign in for the official ValvE Cyber Café program.. so will be officially host competition of mods. ValvE also send posters to the Cyber Café for free....... i know that Natural Selection will be officially supported by Steam, so can i have NS materials instead of other things?

Is there an agreement with ValvE about NS or not?

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  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    I seriously doubt the items can be subsituted as Valve and NS aren't affiliated. You could just buy a poster or two from the NS Store. You'd be supporting further development of NS.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    I do believe that NS will be offically supported by steam.
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Nov 21 2003, 09:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 21 2003, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I do believe that NS will be offically supported by steam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes, that has already been confirmed wayyyy back sometimes ago <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Stanley_txpStanley_txp Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21426Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--PseudoKnight+Nov 21 2003, 09:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PseudoKnight @ Nov 21 2003, 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [ 10/02/03 ]:: New mapping .wad released

    After many months of work, Cory "Squeal Like a Pig" Strader presents to the mapping community a massive new texture set for use for NS maps! He has created nearly 300 new hand-painted textures, which will form the basis of a fresh new look for NS. The upcoming NS v2.1 patch will include these textures (many of the new Combat maps and NS maps use these). This download is only for people actively creating NS maps, and the file can be found in the NS mapping forums (check the FAQ).

    Here are a few screenshots showing some of these luscious textures in action.

    View images


    Work continues on NS v2.1, and we are now actively testing in Steam. VALVe has pledged to make NS officially available on Steam, so it will automatically update itself, and give you all the advantages that Steam provides! It will also include the hot new Combat game mode (see previous news post below), many new maps, 3rd-person reload animations, and more. It is under heavy testing now, and will be released shortly.

    We also have a little surprise in store for our Constellation members, coming shortly. Stay tuned guys, you should be receiving e-mail soon.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this is the official news relese that is still on the front page, open yur eyes dood!!!!
  • ikirikir Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18265Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    Yes.... but an official statement about this free merchandise for Cyber café?
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    If you thought I didn't think NS was going to be officially on Steam, you're mistaken. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
  • TinkTink Join Date: 2003-01-24 Member: 12690Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    EDIT- off my high horse - Tink
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Just so you know, cyber cafe owners have to pay for a seperate (monthly or yearly) subscription for each computer running steam on it. Going to make running the new NS, Dod, etc versions quite costly and annoying for them. I found this out after discussing steam with a few of the local LAN center owners, and they are rather unhappy with it.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    But steam doesnt cost money unless you dont have the game...?
  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    why would they have to pay for steam?
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Nope, they still have to pay <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> . If you want more details, i'll either write some down the next time I drop by one of the local LAN centers, or have one of them make a post.
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    Essentially, LAN shops have to license valve games from now on to make money off them. Otherwise, their operation isn't really on the up and up. There's prolly something in their EULA's that did state that they can't make money off their games without licensing it. Valve is just using the power that they have now with steam to enforce it.

    It probably goes something like that anyway.
  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    edited November 2003
    The Steam CyberCafe program does cost and depending upon what actually happens it could cost a lost.
    The EULA does state that you can not charge people to play HL or CS via the internet basically via Steam

    So Valve, have created the cybercafe program:

    For $10 per PC per month youg et access to all steam games, more secuirty (i.e. your users can't delete the games) and promotional stuff

    or

    pay $108 per year per account.


    Say a Cybercafe owns 20 pcs, thats either $2400 (via $10 amonth) or $2160 (via $108 yearly)
    But Cybercafes atm do have to buy one retail copy per pc. However, that is a one off fee. But, if we compare the two..

    So, if Valve release 3 games over the next year (eg HL2, TF2, CS:CZ) then under the old system they would need to buy each seperately via retail at a cost of approx $150. The Cyber Cafe program gives access to these games for just $108.
    If we use my exmaple of 20 pcs thats $840 saved that year.
    However, that is only looking at the short-term and doesnt consider the fact that the games valve release may not be popular and so may not have otherwise been purchased and what happens the next year will another 3 games be released?

    p.s. This information was gathered from <a href='http://www.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=31' target='_blank'>here</a> As i am a regualr reader of the steam forums and thought id share this with you.
    p.p.s. sorry if this post has gone slightly off topic

    EDIT: Fixed Typos (I hope)
  • NessNess Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 10935Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Yeah, that about sums it up (though SmartLaunch is pretty good for security).
  • ikirikir Join Date: 2003-07-19 Member: 18265Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Gold
    Yes, it cost too much, and it is a stupid idea... anyway someone from the NS team can explain the maerchandise thing? Thanks.

    Ps: if you want to read more about the Cyber Cafè Program check the Steam forum, a lot of people are posting that it costs to much but... no one reply, also via email nothing, nothig if you only asks thing and then valve invite you to write.
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    If VALVe has any NS posters, it's news to me. I have no info on this Cyber-cafe, nor any real affiliation with VALVe, so I assume you'll get CS posters or something.
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