Knights Of The Old Republic

DOOManiac · November 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">can't wait to get it :O</div> KOTOR is out on PC now! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> I played it briefly on X-Box when I conned my friend into renting it, and all it did was leave me wanting more more more. And I never even got to a part where I get a lightsaber or any force powers! He never even bothered to play it for the rest of the rental period cause he isn't an RPG guy. Well, I'm not a big heavy one, but I like KOTOR anyway, even if it is from the same people who made the absolutely horrible Baulder's Gate and Neverwinter Night games... <span style='color:red'>You earn a shiny new member title for this opinion.</span>

Does anybody have it on PC yet? How does it control vs the X-Box?

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>/me runs from people who are foaming at the mouth because I said BG and NWN sucks</span>

Spyder_Monkey · November 2003

Alright, first off... for someone that still plays DOOM I, you should lay the hell off of my NWN series.

2nd off... you haven't even seen the best parts of KOTOR if you haven't gotten to the Jedi parts yet. Amazing storyline, and the 2 different endings for Light and Dark rock...

It's one of two games that I refuse to part with on my XBOX.

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

It's an amazing game and don't bother training your character up on blasters they are rubbish compared to lightsabers, they also don't look as cool.

criticaI · November 2003

mmmmm KOTOR looks good. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Oh, NWN smells. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Dread · November 2003

I slap thee mr. Doom. Baldur's Gate series just happens to be one of the best pc rpgs ever. Better than Diablo and Fallout.

And what's up with this KOTOR? Is it anything like Jedi Knight?

Smoke_Nova · November 2003

NWN sucks...vanilla version does at least. poor Baalin Iroff, his short legs couldn't move him fast.

KoToR. THanks for reminding me DOOMeh. Now i got a game to get for mah B-day.

Spyder_Monkey · November 2003

No, KOTOR isn't like the Jedi Knight series. You can still move your character around and such, but the actions are RPGish in nature. You select an enemy and choose which attacks... DnD rules a la NWN. It's not turn-based, and the action can be quite fast-paced. Overall, the game is hella fun, and will provide several hours of entertainment.

Two paws up.

(NWN Criticism == Temp Suspension)

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Deronok · November 2003

I'v been THINKING of getting it.

Also NwN is good with a group of people you know, and a server with a DM. It just needs backstab for Rogue/Assassins.

Smoke_Nova · November 2003

now come on Spyder, admit it, NWN sucks. If you have to play SP only! vanilla campaign! without knowing what to do!

Spyder_Monkey · November 2003

Any game will suck if you don't know what to do... NWN was the first RPG that I ever enjoyed. I loved the SP Campaign because I suspended my disbelief. You have to sort of believe in heroes and all that... it's a fantasy world. SoU is too short, in my opinion, but the fact that it allows the prestige classes to be used in the original campaign is enough for me. (I love arcane archers). Hordes of the Underdark is going to add many new things that will again, keep me hooked... enough about this, I don't want to hijack this thread, as KOTOR is an awesome game.

edit:

Also, on the topic at hand (KOTOR)... there are multiple sidequests that can keep you entertained, and there are reasons to revisit worlds to complete quests. Almost every planet you visit will give you memorable moments. Everything from going through training at the Sith Academy to poisoning (depending on alignment) the ocean world's kolto supply. There are conflicts between your party members, and they throw in a homocidal droid just for the hell of it.

Burr · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Nov 19 2003, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Better than Diablo and Fallout.

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Blasphamer!! Nothing is better than my Fallout!! What other RPG has mutants, sniper rifles, flame throwers, rocket launchers, and Dogmeat (except for Arcanum). <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Anyway, I own KOTOR for my Xbox (fends off xbox haters with his red and blue lightsabers) and I say it is a great game. Yeah, I never use guns either, because the lightsabers are uber-powerful (of course) and the moves you can do with them are killer!

But, I still wanted to be a wookie or Twilek, oh well, I guess I will just kill the drunks at Tarsis to relieve my anger and embrace my dark side. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>and they throw in a homocidal droid just for the hell of it.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, he has the best lines too!! Its hilarious when you fail at repairing him!

Spyder_Monkey · November 2003

The Dark Side was more enjoyable to me... doing the secret society assassin's quest, and destroying an entire world's major export... Then switching sides mid-way through the game, chasing off two of my closest party members... god, the memories.

Burr · November 2003

I like how you can go around bullying and threatening people, yet Carth doesn't do much except complain.

Mwahahaha, my evil character had a red double sided lightsaber, he was a Sentinel, and he had the mullet haircut, he was pure evil. I also enjoy how your Light/Dark descion affects your character appearance and the background on your character screen.

I still laugh everytime I do something evil. Its just so much more fun to be evil. Saving the guy from bounty hunters, and then demanding money from him, mwhahaha. Also, getting the "Romeo and Juliet" parents to shoot each others kids and then get into a war, pure evil!!

Dread · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spyder Monkey @ Nov 19 2003, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> No, KOTOR isn't like the Jedi Knight series. You can still move your character around and such, but the actions are RPGish in nature. You select an enemy and choose which attacks... DnD rules a la NWN. It's not turn-based, and the action can be quite fast-paced. Overall, the game is hella fun, and will provide several hours of entertainment.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh, so it's like Baldur's Gate with lightsabers. Except BG already had moonblades. Sounds coo' anyway <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Coming on PC? I don't do consoles, they are bad for your health. Except N64+Mario Kart, which is all <b>good</b>.

Spyder_Monkey · November 2003

I wonder if they're going to add anything to the PC version...

TychoCelchuuu · November 2003

Yeah, they're adding new items, they redesigned the interface, and I think they added a few new quests.

Oh goodness me, I played it for 10 minutes on the XBOX and resolved then and there to buy it for PC the moment I upgraded. This is THE best Star Wars RPG I've ever seen. It's so immersive, and you can tell that Bioware really cared about not abusing the liscense. You won't see them mispelling Wookiee any time soon.

Injury · November 2003

I considered pre-ordering it to get the shiny pewter lightsaber, but then thought nah.. maybe next time. I'll definitely get it once they hit a price drop as my roomate already owns KoTOR. Weeheehee, I went with absolutely NO Force attack powers, just status changing ones. I am so evil..

uranium_235 · November 2003

I didn't like NWN because I thought the beginning sucked. A lot. A LOT!

I'm thrown in some stupid village and told to solve the mystery of the plague. Hardly compelling.

Not to mention it was on 3 CDs and sucked up nearly 2 gigs of hard drive space and... god what the hell was taking all that space?!

DY357LX · November 2003

I enjoyed lots and lots of NeverWinter Nights...
Knights Of The Old Republic left me wondering why
the hell EVERY single person in that game couldn't answer
a question normally!? They didn't half bang on about pointless
crap.

NeverWinter Nights had great plot(s) and the online features were great.
As well as an active modding scene with some amazing user made mods.

I remember on one server, the Host was the Dungeon Master,
we were all gathered in a nice big circle and the DM would summon
a monster. We'd all run in and beat the hell out of it, killing it and
sharing the XP. The DM then "accidently" summoned a HUGE Dragon.
I swear, you've NEVER seen a circle of people scatter so fast!!!
Oh how we laughed. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Tequila · November 2003

Oh God. D 'n' Frickin' D rules? GEEK RULES?
So much potential, so much love, forever tarnished.

I'll still give it a crack, though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

EDIT: I'm <i>slightly</i> overexaggerating there, but only slightly... I can see the verbal attacks coming <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Deronok · November 2003

I'm getting it, it may be basicly modded NwN but it still looks good.

Scythe · November 2003

I can't wait to get my hands on this. Ever since PA gave it good reviews I've been waiting for it to come out on PC.

--Scythe--

uranium_235 · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila^ @ Nov 19 2003, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Oh God. D 'n' Frickin' D rules? GEEK RULES?
So much potential, so much love, forever tarnished.

I'll still give it a crack, though <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

EDIT: I'm <i>slightly</i> overexaggerating there, but only slightly... I can see the verbal attacks coming <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
D&D has the blessing that it's fairly simplistic (Up until the last edition which completely nuked and rewrote half the rules). It's like the 'Windows' of RPGs.

Trevelyan · November 2003

KoTOR Is an ok RPG, but i think your money is much better spent in getting Jedi Knight III, if you like the second one at all... you will love this version, everything is smoother and much more balanced.

Spyder_Monkey · November 2003

You know, I saw Jedi Academy at GameSTOP the other day, and decided to wait until I heard anything about it. I loved Jedi Outcast, though I never played the original game. (Hope I'm not missing anything)...

Marik_Steele · November 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spyder Monkey @ Nov 19 2003, 07:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You know, I saw Jedi Academy at GameSTOP the other day, and decided to wait until I heard anything about it. I loved Jedi Outcast, though I never played the original game. (Hope I'm not missing anything)... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
You're only missing on one of the greatest pre-HL singleplayer and most balanced multiplayer games of all time. (I say "one of" for singleplayer because it is good for many of the same reasons the System Shock series was good). It's nothing amazing now that JKA is out, but you've got to think in terms of how back then, HL wasn't out. And when HL did get released, it didn't have its current netcode, nor did it have anything more than DM.

[edit]On-topic, I'm probably going to cut a deal with my best friend. He'll buy KOTOR, I'll buy Deus Ex 2, and since both are singleplayer only, we'll swap when we beat 'em. Worked great for Max Payne 1 and...darn, what was that other singleplayer game around at that time? Probably nothing memorable.

DOOManiac · November 2003

Gee, make sure you don't have an opinion different than the forum mods. ;)

Here, I'll go for double bant:

I thought Baulder's Gate was so crappy, I GAVE AWAY my copy to some random guy in class who never got to play it. I'm just happy there's more space in my drawer for other cds!

And NWN? I did give it an honest try. But I got bored of that before even making it out of the barracks... Soooo slow paced...

Mullet · November 2003

I really liked knights of the old republic, but I have it on XBOX. I got the the last level, and I had 25+ hours on it. Whenever it got to this one loading part, it would freeze and I would have to restart the xbox. I sent lucas arts an email and they gave me this big list of what to do and I tried it all and nothing worked. I emailed them back and they said start a new game now that you've adjusted all the crap. So I restart the game completely over, now I have 20+ hours and it freezes at the same part again!

There is no scratch on the cd or anything, but ohwell....Other than that constant error, I'd give the game a 9 out of 10. It's extremely fun, especially how your character changes throughout the whole game. Being a dark jedi is the best.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

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