I see a map like this, I can imagine exactly how to make the brushes, how to place the textures...
and then I open up the VHE and realize, "Oh crud, I have no idea what I'm doing."
It's like you <i>tell</i> the lights to brighten up the floors and walls, and yet still cast numerous shadows that are dark and yet entirely non-vision-obstructing at the same time. Maybe you give em a little pep talk <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->.
Great work, can't wait to <!--emo&:bob:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'><!--endemo--> or <!--emo&:asrifle:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'><!--endemo--> on it.
sharpsword u sayd that to me?<!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> i think u missed the point man coz i wasnt meaning anything wrong...... anyways whats the big deal about orgasms???
and back to topic,wow the new marine spawn looks amazing
still love it... but I prefer the old look as well but the new one looks also cool put it somewhere else <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
I didn't say that It was the day we were having a party at my house with some relatives and someone else might have wrote something, because I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo-->
KungFuSquirrelBasher of MuttonsJoin Date: 2002-01-26Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<!--QuoteBegin--DarkMantiZ+Sep. 01 2002,02:40--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (DarkMantiZ @ Sep. 01 2002,02:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->great space looks great, but also...empty.. I do not know how the PT evolves and what they tell you, "more open space" or "more detail".. but anywho, maybe some random smaller halo-computers or something on the rails, or just something sticking up a little here n there from the floor..
because walls look great, floor look great, roof look very great (a word?) and lighting fits em, but its that emptieness between it all that just removes that 5% from that 100% home-feeling<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree, actually. Do keep in mind that this map has not been finalized yet. I've been very careful with my limits (primarily brush entity limits, due to the reliance on light overlays), but polycounts are, in most areas, low enough to allow quite a bit more stuff to fill in the gaps. It's not as much a priority as the base layout and general lighting and such, but if time allows before release, I do plan to make a rather heavy detailing pass. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
wow, so many great maps lately <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
KungFuSquirrelBasher of MuttonsJoin Date: 2002-01-26Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
You're right, I did forget to draw in the resource nozzle at the marine spawn. <!--emo&:(--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('><!--endemo--> It's centered in the wider room south of the command center (the yellow dot).
Playtesting worked fine with the single entrance to the east hive... It was something I was really worried about, but it doesn't actually seem to be a problem. There also will, for Eclipse PT build 4, be an additional nozzle room much closer to marine spawn and perhaps an additional nozzle in the center of the map.
I think that's a good idea, the marines definitely need more access to nozzles given the relative proximity of the hives and their distance to the marine spawn, and the fact that they sort of enevelop the resource cluster in the middle...the aliens only need to expand down 1 corridor from the bottom 2 hives to effectively control the central resources, but if the marines grab hold and dig in they can wipe out the 2 lower hives using the central resources
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and then I open up the VHE and realize, "Oh crud, I have no idea what I'm doing."
It's like you <i>tell</i> the lights to brighten up the floors and walls, and yet still cast numerous shadows that are dark and yet entirely non-vision-obstructing at the same time. Maybe you give em a little pep talk <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->.
Great work, can't wait to <!--emo&:bob:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'><!--endemo--> or <!--emo&:asrifle:--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'><!--endemo--> on it.
i think u missed the point man coz i wasnt meaning anything wrong...... anyways whats the big deal about orgasms???
and back to topic,wow the new marine spawn looks amazing
[EDIT] If he has a brother [/EDIT]
because walls look great, floor look great, roof look very great (a word?) and lighting fits em, but its that emptieness between it all that just removes that 5% from that 100% home-feeling<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, actually. Do keep in mind that this map has not been finalized yet. I've been very careful with my limits (primarily brush entity limits, due to the reliance on light overlays), but polycounts are, in most areas, low enough to allow quite a bit more stuff to fill in the gaps. It's not as much a priority as the base layout and general lighting and such, but if time allows before release, I do plan to make a rather heavy detailing pass. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
say, oh great map-maker, will thou post some of your detailing ideas here? =)
1. Isnt the Marine Nozzle missing??'
2. That right hive has only 1 exit, maybe you can ad a alien vent there in case.
Really nice layout, a great work.
Playtesting worked fine with the single entrance to the east hive... It was something I was really worried about, but it doesn't actually seem to be a problem. There also will, for Eclipse PT build 4, be an additional nozzle room much closer to marine spawn and perhaps an additional nozzle in the center of the map.
Like the architecture a lot.