Why Ou Instead Of O?

LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I'm an American with a question...</div> Ok, pretty simple... In Britain, or other places[I don't know], why do you put ou instead of o like in words like Color/Colour and Favorite/Favourite? Is there some History behind it or something? Thanks for the read. No flaming[Funny coming from me eh?].
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  • spidermonkeyspidermonkey @ Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20810Members
    edited November 2003
    Wasnt it you yanks who changed the spelling in the first place? Have a look at this <a href='http://www3.telus.net/linguisticsissues/BritishCanadianAmerican.htm' target='_blank'>list</a> for all the differences in british (which we use in australia), american and canadian spellings of different words.

    colo<b>U</b>r foreva!!

    [EDIT] From this: <a href='http://www.musicalenglishlessons.com/spelling-diffs.htm' target='_blank'>clicky</a>.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->EXPLANATION (by Bibi Baxter)

    Many American spellings differ from English spellings.  The original settlers to New England taught English Webster's spelling-rules which omitted 'U' in words ending in 'OUR' (eg: honor/honour & color/colour, etc)  and also promoted single consonants instead of double consonants in 2nd syllables, (eg: traveler/traveller, etc)

    The influence of multi-cultural immigrants to the US, has also meant that American spellings have gradually evolved over the centuries, becoming more phonetic than British spellings. 

    American spellings are now becoming more universal as Microsoft software defaults to American spellings and often does not recognise  British spellings.  <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    On the other hand, our quaint British spellings are a product of history, influenced by Shakespeare, Chaucer, Claxton, et al.

    Both types of spellings are acceptable, but my advice is to be consistent, i.e.  either use all British spellings, or all American ones.  (If you are taking an English exam, check in advance which spelling rules you should use.) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    pronouncation? I don't know about you but I don't say "Col-or" I say "Col-our" <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • spidermonkeyspidermonkey @ Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20810Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Nov 13 2003, 01:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Nov 13 2003, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> pronouncation? I don't know about you but I don't say "Col-or" I say "Col-our" <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Theoretically, the pronounciations are the same (discouting things like accent). Ive never heard anyone say col-our here. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Nov 12 2003, 10:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Nov 12 2003, 10:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> pronouncation? I don't know about you but I don't say "Col-or" I say "Col-our" <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I say "Co-lore" not "Col-our." Hmm... Pretty interesting... *Reads up*
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    I had a britsh chemistry professor once, instead of Zero, it was naught (or something like that), and he pronounced Aluminum differently, maybe its even spelled differently (maybe AluminIum). He said it with AL at the begining instead of with just the Uh sounding A....confusing, its hard to try and describe sounds in words.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited November 2003
    Americans pronounce "aluminium" as uh-LOO-min-um. Everyone else pronouces it AL-yoo-min-ee-um. How you crazy yanks manage to lose a whole syllable from the word, I'll never know.

    Why do we spell it "colour" and "armour"? Because that's how it's spelled. My turn: why do you spell it differently? The entire English speaking world, except for America, spells these words with "ou". <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 12 2003, 11:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 12 2003, 11:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The entire English speaking world, except for America, spells these words with "ou". <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The Site SpiderMonkey posted says Canadian spells tons the same way at America too...
  • CrystalSnakeCrystalSnake Join Date: 2002-01-27 Member: 110Members
    I've always wondered how the British spell the past tense of "to metre".
    Is it "metered" or "metred"?
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    I'm an engineer. I prefer American over British spellings because they are more efficient.


    (There is a logic error in the previous statement. 5 points for the first one to notice it)
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Americans pronounce "aluminium" as uh-LOO-min-um. Everyone else pronouces it AL-yoo-min-ee-um. How you crazy yanks manage to lose a whole syllable from the word, I'll never know.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you for getting my point across better than I did, you made it that much more understanble even to me! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How you crazy yanks manage to lose a whole syllable from the word, I'll never know.
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    Yankee can be a derogatory term.

    Just a heads up to all of you non-Americans.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Nov 13 2003, 02:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Nov 13 2003, 02:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 12 2003, 11:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 12 2003, 11:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The entire English speaking world, except for America, spells these words with "ou". <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The Site SpiderMonkey posted says Canadian spells tons the same way at America too...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I've always wondered how the British spell the past tense of "to metre".
    Is it "metered" or "metred"?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As far as I understand, "metre" is only the unit of measurement. I'm not sure. I think "meter" as in "gauge" is actually how it's spelled. I could be wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Isn't Canada "the expansion pack for the US"? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 13 2003, 12:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 13 2003, 12:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Isn't Canada "the expansion pack for the US"? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'd like to think of Canada as more of a vastly superior version. With a less crowed player count, more area to explore, less polution for the most part and lower PK rate. Not to mention that Canadians are much more likely to accept other cultures in general. Not to say that Americans are less multi-cultural, but.. some areas in the states can be just that.

    But aside from my pro-Canada biased speech, to my knowledge Canada uses the british spellings, not the American for pretty much every word short of Aluminim.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Of course, Americans use Thru (Throo)
    Brit's use Through (Thruff)

    I mean, how did you end up with that one? that's just trying to cheat at scrabble!


    Ahh, Eddie Izzard. Thanks for the memories.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    edited November 2003
    Some of the spellings used in American English are closer to the 'old' English than modern British English.

    When North America was colonised, some of the language simply froze. This was during the 1600s. Since this time, British English has moved on due to its interaction with the world (industrial revolutions, technological revolutions, protracted war, the British Empire, proximity to Europe).

    This is why Shakespeare spells it 'labor', not 'labour' ...

    Scroll to the bottom for some examples: <a href='http://www.wordorigins.org/histeng.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.wordorigins.org/histeng.htm</a>.
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    we spell with "ou" because it makes the words sound right

    colour="kuller"=RIGHT

    color= "ko-lore"=WRONG

    the extra "u" drops the first vowel.

    And don't even get me started on what you did to al-yu-min-yum
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    Strangely interesting topic. The Aluminium thing is
    oddly funny.
    Another spelling difference i've noticed over the year is
    in words like "defence". The American spelling would be "defense".
    There's a few other words out there will similar alterations
    but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
    (I'll probably think of some in work later and edit this post a little.)

    EDIT_01: Center and Centre are another one.
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    My british professor said he had a heavy Kentucky accent <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    He was also not well liked, all he talked about was his money and his Jaguar (car).
  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--wizard@psu+Nov 12 2003, 11:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Nov 12 2003, 11:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How you crazy yanks manage to lose a whole syllable from the word, I'll never know.
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    Yankee can be a derogatory term.

    Just a heads up to all of you non-Americans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Particularly to Cubs fans I would assume? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FuryFury Silver Fish Hand Catch Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19673Members, Constellation
    col<b>ou</b>r

    gaol not jail

    met<b>re</b>

    umm

    other stuff

    mum

    mom sounds weird :S .... and looks weird
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BigDXLT+Nov 13 2003, 06:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigDXLT @ Nov 13 2003, 06:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--wizard@psu+Nov 12 2003, 11:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Nov 12 2003, 11:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Nov 13 2003, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How you crazy yanks manage to lose a whole syllable from the word, I'll never know.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yankee can be a derogatory term.

    Just a heads up to all of you non-Americans. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Particularly to Cubs fans I would assume? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, it was particularly derogatory for Dutch-Americans.
  • TeoHTeoH Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11640Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--arael_01+Nov 13 2003, 07:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (arael_01 @ Nov 13 2003, 07:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> gaol not jail <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You realise we don't actually use 'gaol' right?

    Please say yes.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Supra_Soldier+Nov 13 2003, 03:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supra_Soldier @ Nov 13 2003, 03:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe this should should be locked, its all flames to me...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sorry you feel that way. All my inflamatory comments in this thread have been in good fun, not meant to offend.

    ...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Of course, Americans use Thru (Throo)
    Brit's use Through (Thruff)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You've lost me. Nobody pronounces it "thruff". Yes, I realise that's the same spelling as "tough", except it has a "hr" inserted after the "t". That's English for you <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    ...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Another spelling difference i've noticed over the year is
    in words like "defence". The American spelling would be "defense".<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not entirely certain, but I think they may both be words. I mean, both words in use in the same country. Like the difference between "practise" and "practice". <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Er... that's as specific as that example's going to get, because I'm not entirely sure what the difference between "practise" and "practice" actually is. *loops sheepish*</span>
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    One of the best examples of pronounciation differences was summed up by the great Eddie Izzard:

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You say 'erbs, we say herbs, because there's a f**king 'h' in it<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think the real question is why don't you spell the words as they originally are in English as opposed to the American bastardisation.
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    edited November 2003
    esuna: depends what you mean by original English. American English is closer to the roots of English than British English (see my previous post).

    Only olde worlde places trying to be quaint use gaol.

    SoulSkorpion: thruff was another Izzard quote.

    Talking of olde worlde Britain - has anyone been to or heard of Ye Olde Trip To Jerusalem ? That's my local !
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    I say Colou-r and flavou-r ;/
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    hehe

    I read Fantasy alot

    MANY MANY Fantasy writers are Brits


    Thus I can't spell worth **** (I am american)

    SCREW YOU WORD!!! (won't pick up my spellings those bastds)

    colour, armour, and aparently me need to put in 2 consenants(SP? thats just me sucking) IS THEIR FAULT ALSO!!!!!


    (so ,yah all of you who see me calling it the armoury now know that I am a stinkin american <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    Creep's right, the colonisation of America brought the English Language there, natch, but back then no-one kept a record of 'correct' spellings. A writer could put down what he liked as long as it was phonetically accurate e.g. 'kasul' for 'castle'. Therefore both countries devolped differently in terms of linguistics, and by the time vocabulary began to be recorded, both had a few differences thst were maintained.

    I'm bias to British-English, especially with lexis such as "Aluminum" and "Nite" that I just can't stomach.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I personally think it's funny wall call one of the planets 'your-ah-niss' while the people in the US of A call it 'your-anus' <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I say armour just becuase it's cooler than armor...
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