Return Client's Cvar Values

eliotmateliotmat Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
edited November 2003 in General Server Discussion
Is there a way to return the values that clients' have assigned for game settings?

For instance how do I find out a clients' "cl_rate"?

I tried this <b>admin_execclient [DOE]Jon cl_rate</b>. It just said that the command succeeded, but I received no value.

Please help. Thank you.
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  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    Spammer...

    If you're using adminmod I would ask on the adminmod forums <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • eagleceaglec Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9948Members, Constellation
    I was pointed to the rcon command
    <b>user</b> <i>id</i>

    Where id is the player name or wonid (case sensetive).

    it shows various user info but not what I was after. :\ How do you track cl_ exploiters? No I'm not going into any more details so if you dont understand, sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Lightning_BlueLightning_Blue Sunny Domination Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10647Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Only thing I can think of would be WWCL (never used it), a plugin to set cvars where you want them (voogru did this for r_drawview), Or maybe a plugin that would cause the client to send the cvar values to the server?
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  • CheesyPetezaCheesyPeteza Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9784Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    You can't do it. All you can do is set their cl_rate and stop them from changing it by aliasing it. Although they can get around this by doing the exact same thing themselves before they even connect to your server to stop the server changing it.
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lightning Blue+Nov 7 2003, 12:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lightning Blue @ Nov 7 2003, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Only thing I can think of would be WWCL (never used it)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To the best of my knowledge this metamod plugin exists only for CS.
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  • eagleceaglec Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9948Members, Constellation
    arse.

    You mean that it cant be done in adminmod or even metamod at all? I know CD misses it so it's down to sharp adminning or banning anyone with a 500ping :/ (and yes I know thats daft and inneffective).

    So HLGuard doesn't help either? Damn with steamid's clearing our ban lists this is going to be a busy time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--eaglec+Nov 8 2003, 04:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eaglec @ Nov 8 2003, 04:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So HLGuard doesn't help either? Damn with steamid's clearing our ban lists this is going to be a busy time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ......ONLY until 2.1 comes out - wOOt! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • voogruvoogru Naturally Modified (ex. NS programmer) Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1827Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--CheesyPeteza+Nov 7 2003, 01:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CheesyPeteza @ Nov 7 2003, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You can't do it. All you can do is set their cl_rate and stop them from changing it by aliasing it. Although they can get around this by doing the exact same thing themselves before they even connect to your server to stop the server changing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, great idea. Tell them exactly how to get around it!
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  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--voogru+Nov 9 2003, 02:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Nov 9 2003, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes, great idea. Tell them exactly how to get around it!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, lets not tell server admins that the only easily fixable method of stopping this could be worked around in a very simple manner that anybody with any common sense would be able to figure out, so that they don't get a false sense of security from this method.

    Security through obscurity, great idea.
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  • eliotmateliotmat Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Clients are somehow able to download the server.cfg via sv_allowdownload, but I can't get their config.cfg by allowing uploads?

    Is there any clever techie out there with some reverse engineering skills? I'm sick and tired of the cvar exploiters. I'd like to confirm my suspicions about several players on my server. Someone please help!!

    I visited the adminmod forums and the irc channel, but there was no help.
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  • eliotmateliotmat Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Is there a way I can get a client to echo the values by admin_execclient'ing them to /say it?
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  • CheesyPetezaCheesyPeteza Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9784Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    If there was a way to do it someone smarter than us would have figured it out already for programs like csguard/hlguard, wwcl etc.

    BTW I was looking at a cheat site to see what cheats there are for NS and everyone there said your server was their favourite. Perhaps time to install CD? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • billcatbillcat Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4903Members, Constellation
    check out this amx mod for rate mgmt:

    <a href='http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=105223' target='_blank'>http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=105223</a>

    it may not be exactly what you want but the script is short enuf you can see how they are getting the cl_rate info, or at least limiting it to what the server admin wants.
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  • eliotmateliotmat Join Date: 2002-12-01 Member: 10350Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    What is the url for this cheat site you mentioned, cheesy? Can you private message it to me?

    I find it hard to believe there aren't any concerned admins with the ability to solve this little problem. I'm not flaming anyone because I don't have the skills in HL scripting or coding to do it either. Just find it hard to believe. There are endless amounts of worthless plug-ins, but nobody can develop something as simple as returning a client's cvar values..... and nobody knows how to enable the server to download a user's config.

    Well, I suppose I'll just have to become another **** admin and ban on a whim instead of having any evidence to support the bans.
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  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--eliotmat+Dec 5 2003, 09:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Dec 5 2003, 09:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What is the url for this cheat site you mentioned, cheesy? Can you private message it to me?

    I find it hard to believe there aren't any concerned admins with the ability to solve this little problem. I'm not flaming anyone because I don't have the skills in HL scripting or coding to do it either. Just find it hard to believe. There are endless amounts of worthless plug-ins, but nobody can develop something as simple as returning a client's cvar values..... and nobody knows how to enable the server to download a user's config.

    Well, I suppose I'll just have to become another **** admin and ban on a whim instead of having any evidence to support the bans. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You tried www.unitedadmins.com yet? that's what HLGaurd does. you could use that...
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