Ns_nirvana near to basic layout completion!

bluemanblueman Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 399Members
in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">Im very near! :)</div>well, after some heavy changes in the layout ive managed to take a HLTV screenshot from the map so to explain the layout and to be given any suggestions, help, etc...

<img src="http://www.planethalflife.com/roleplayhl/team/blueman/ns/ns_nirvanav4_layout.jpg" border="0">

This is the layout. The blue part is wut i have left to do. There are no welders or alien passages drawn as i havent managed to think about their best position, etc... all the things that you dont see here and you think should be, please tell me.

Also, from each hive to hive or to marine spawn there is at least 30 seconds. dont worry about it. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    Wow, that... so... awesome  <!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->
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  • SageSage Join Date: 2002-08-06 Member: 1086Members
    Loonkin good  <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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  • sharpsword6sharpsword6 Join Date: 2002-08-15 Member: 1166Members
    wow.......im puzzled thats real good <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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  • RhoadsToNowhereRhoadsToNowhere i r 8 Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 33Members
    I think that's pretty good.  There's a bit of disparity between the distances from the marine spawn to the hives, which may have some gameplay ramifications.  I think the rightmost hive in particular is a bit far from the marine start, and the path that leads directly to that hive without passing through the center hive should probably connect somewhere else to avoid being so linear.  Make sure you're watching your r_speeds, too, although using the lifts as visblocks will help a lot.  Perhaps there could be another resource node closer to the marines?
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  • BattousaixBattousaix Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 822Members
    wow its good to see that u managed to get it almost finished before the release <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> and i love how nirvana looks, i think that the layout is cool, and the only thing i would add was the resource node that already rhoads mentioned, anyways i think that the right path its all the way free for marines coz it isnt connected with any other part of the map, so if aliens dont spawn at the rightmost hive, all the resource nodes are for the marines....... /me wants to take a look at nirvana when its released <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
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  • bluemanblueman Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 399Members
    mmm THX alot for the feedback. Ok ill try creating another ways into the rightmost linear part. Maybe ill ake it a 2 way part there before they go to the 2 Resource node room, so that they can move faster, adding there a elevator that join with the little corridor that finaly goes to the central hive.
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    The right hive is definitely too far away, and the left and center hives may be too close (you'd have to tell me how long the run is in NSTR), unless that lift is *very* slow.  Also, you tend to have long hallways leading to each hive; that's going to make it difficult for marines to advance, as hallways are much easier to defend.  One mapping tactic that's worked well for levels in playtest right now is to have a kind of antechamber or foyer before the hives; a room where the marines can get in, open up, and maybe even get a foothold on their way to the hive.

    I would also try to add a few more options for navigation, at least around the center of the map - a little more complexity and interest as players navigate their way through the map.  Good work so far, keep it up.  (:

    Oh, one more thing - alien vents?
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  • bluemanblueman Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 399Members
    Ok, im managed to do some changes so i again post the new HLTV layout for feedback.

    <u>OOOH. notice please that when LIFT is, it doesnt always mean an elevator, i just put it there to show where there is a level change. LIFT can mean stairs, elevator or just a simple ladder.</u>

    <img src="http://www.planethalflife.com/roleplayhl/team/blueman/ns/ns_nirvanav5_layout.jpg" border="0">

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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I still think the right hive is too secluded, but I like the additional complexity you've put in.  Don't be afraid to expand some of those hallways into full rooms, too, if you get an idea.  (:
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  • bluemanblueman Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 399Members
    Thx very much for the feedback coil, i think youre right, there is too much hallways on the map. Maybe 1 or 2 more rooms will help. thx <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • gutterclutchgutterclutch Join Date: 2002-06-30 Member: 850Members
    A room at the corner of the legoteeth corridor would be a good - what was it coil said...anchor? And another where the left blue passages hit the left dark passages...I'm too lazy to point out on the pic, but...I hope you understand where I mean
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  • bluemanblueman Join Date: 2002-04-09 Member: 399Members
    ok. I look a bit stupid posting so many diferent layouts, but i think ive managed to end up with a good one (or no&#33<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

    <img src="http://www.planethalflife.com/roleplayhl/team/blueman/ns/ns_nirvanav6_layout.jpg" border="0">

    :|

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    Oh o forgot to say.ñ Im not that quick changing things, ive just moved the things with MSpaint. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • gutterclutchgutterclutch Join Date: 2002-06-30 Member: 850Members
    Heyheyhey you know, that looks like a superb layout...I was thinking about maybe moving the middle hive to one of the upper rooms but actually it's fantastic the way it is, prolly better too. Good job
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