Steam Ns

end3r_wigg3nsend3r_wigg3ns Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22106Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">whens does it come out and what not?</div> hey yea i am new but iam wondering when is the Steam supported version of ns comin out? and if it is already out and i just havent noticed where do i get it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    edited October 2003
    There's a beta installer available <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=31&t=49430' target='_blank'>here</a>, however there are some incompatibilities between NS 2.0 and Steam.

    NS 2.1 will be coming out soon and will fix all of these problems.

    Max
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    oh yeah, and btw, it is HUGE!

    Even the 500k version eats your hard disk.


    Must make a petition against steam... mutter mutter...
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  • darcdarc Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21172Members, Constellation
    2.1 is pretty much almost done, the NS team is working on bugs, balance issues, and final tweaking, it seems. Btw, Steam support is good in the new version, it works perfect.
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    Yep, 2.1 works perfectly.

    if you mean when will NS appear on the official games list, hopefully soon but I think Valve's priority is getting CS:CZ off the ground.
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  • Ripleys_SonRipleys_Son Join Date: 2003-10-16 Member: 21728Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--jacksonj04+Nov 3 2003, 02:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jacksonj04 @ Nov 3 2003, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yep, 2.1 works perfectly.

    if you mean when will NS appear on the official games list, hopefully soon but I think Valve's priority is getting CS:CZ off the ground. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The right click menu bug is fixed as well?
    Lots of servers with lots of people? I like NS 2.01 on Steam as it is, though as a newbie, I don't know the right click menus.
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  • darcdarc Join Date: 2003-09-24 Member: 21172Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ripley's_Son+Nov 3 2003, 05:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ripley's_Son @ Nov 3 2003, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--jacksonj04+Nov 3 2003, 02:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (jacksonj04 @ Nov 3 2003, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yep, 2.1 works perfectly.

    if you mean when will NS appear on the official games list, hopefully soon but I think Valve's priority is getting CS:CZ off the ground. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The right click menu bug is fixed as well?
    Lots of servers with lots of people? I like NS 2.01 on Steam as it is, though as a newbie, I don't know the right click menus. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The right-click menu is fixed and looks perfect.
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  • end3r_wigg3nsend3r_wigg3ns Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22106Members
    aigh ok thanks mates....i got lots of disk space to spare <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> and steam well steam is the best thing that has happened for me.
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  • haPihaPi Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15556Members
    can someone plz list the order and what to install..

    i currently have nothing

    steam full ? steam for ns? ns patch? half life? ^^

    gimmie teh ordering
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  • jacksonjO4jacksonjO4 Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11613Members, Constellation
    edited November 2003
    <ul><li>Grab Steam (with or without HL cache) and install.
    <li>Try to run Half-Life, you will either need the cache (Steam will download this for you) or the game will do a quick build and run.
    <li>Ride the train for a bit, play the training map, something. This makes sure all the files are there.
    <li>CLOSE STEAM (Use the correct method, not Ctrl+Alt+Del)
    <li>Get the beta installer (beta forums) and install this. It automatically detects the appropriate directories.
    <li>Run Steam again. Natural Selection will appear at the bottom of your games list.
    <li>Double click to play, all servers are in Steam's browser.</ul>
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  • BenaiahBenaiah Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22517Members
    can we play the steam version 2.0 version of ns on regular ns servers or do we have to join a special steam server?
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    you have to play on steam servers as teh authentication system has changed
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    2.1 is steam only I think
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  • Hayato25Hayato25 Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22582Members
    I don't have HL but I do have the retail version of CS, I used this last time to play NS. I have just been told that the retail version of CS is pointless for CS 1.6 and steam! So do I have to d/l the full version of steam (700 mb) and CS 1.6 (300 mb) and then when the update for NS comes out install that? Sry if this is off topic or anything but all this new stuff is confusing me. Before to play NS all I had to do was install CS retail version and dl NS and play....
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  • amckernamckern Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14249Members, Constellation
    u need retail cs, hl, etc for the cd key, so that steam can make your account valid.

    the 770mb steam installer has cs, dmc, rc, tfc, and a few other offical valve mods, so u don't need to download the cs steam cache

    just install the steam cache, and do as was said above

    amckern
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Steam size:


    After browsing through the Steam installation directory, I found that I could eaily purge most of the junk and get a nice 'small' 1.5 gigs. Though this is as big as Windows XP, it is better than the 5gig monster I started out with.

    If you have many mods in your original half life directory, they will be copied over to steam and changed to Cache files. If you dont ever intend to play FLF, DoD, or Opera on steam, then these of course can be deleted straight away.

    "[Steam instalation folder]\SteamApps" and "[Steam instalation folder]\SteamApps\[Your Steam Email]" contain the cache files.

    AFAIK, 'half-life engine.gcf', 'half-life localized.gcf', 'half-life.gcf' and 'platform.gcf' cannot be deleted. Pretty obvious really. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Also note that if you still have Ns.1.04 installed in your orriginal HL directory (ie, you renamed it before installing NS 2 to play the traditional way,) Steam will convert that too. For some reason my 'Third Party' games section had 5 listings of 'Natural Selection' in no particular order.

    Any commments on this wouldbe welcome. HTH!
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  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    Also note that you can fee up lots of space by deleting your Won version of half-life and its mods. (something i will be doing after 2.1 comes out) <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    !
    You would loose all the other mods you have installed! For those of us (me not included, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) with 56k connections, downloading steam cache files for all the mods would be a nightmare...

    Still, I agree that you would free up a lot of space.
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  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BlueNovember+Nov 18 2003, 09:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Nov 18 2003, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> !
    You would loose all the other mods you have installed! For those of us (me not included, <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) with 56k connections, downloading steam cache files for all the mods would be a nightmare...

    Still, I agree that you would free up a lot of space. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you can jut convert them over to steam...though some mods (like the challenger deep) might need some manual work in order to get them to work right. (complicated, go to the steam boards to find out more)
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  • JuNgLiStJuNgLiSt Join Date: 2003-06-19 Member: 17508Members
    edited November 2003
    steam fuc**g sucks

    if 2.1 only supports steam, i'll not install it
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  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--JuNgLiSt+Nov 18 2003, 10:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JuNgLiSt @ Nov 18 2003, 10:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> steam fuc**g sucks

    if 2.1 only supports steam, i'll not install it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    great...thats your opinion. I like steam.

    Looks like your not going to be playing 2.1 any time soon. It only for steam.
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  • BuggyBuggy Join Date: 2003-11-08 Member: 22400Members, Constellation
    "In Steam, no one can hear you Scream" as i read in someone's signature around here <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    i havent had a need for steam yet though, is it really that bad???
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  • eug3n_ihweug3n_ihw Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23533Members
    steam suxx0rz really bad..
    i like ns alot, but thanks to steam, i think i can't play it ever again <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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