Israeli Mossad Behind 9/11
Eviscerator
Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13946Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13946Members, Constellation
This is not a conspiracy theory... I don't want to go into that territory because it usually runs back towards complicity on the parts of Americans, and people cannot accept that anyone here would agree to such a thing. So, take this purely as an Israeli action, with no conspiracy within any U.S. government institution. Instead, think only that the Mossad acted alone and fooled us all.
Let's get started.
Zionism traces its roots back to the late 1800s, when the movement really started picking up steam. The goal of Zionism has always been to have a safe haven for the Semites of the world. Specifically, they wanted to reclaim the holy land. WW1 presented the first opporunity to sneak in there, as land was going to go one way or the other as Europe fought to redraw its borders. As WW1 was progressing, it became quite clear that Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Ottoman Turkish Empire were going to win. Germany made a favorable offer to Britain to end the war in 1916. Britain did not accept defeat, even though there was tremendous pressure from its citizens to do so. Why? As it turns out, the Zionist leaders had struck a deal with Britain. They promised to drag the U.S. into the war on Britain's side which would lead to victory. Britain had refused the German offer to end the war and accepted the Zionist deal.
Now you might wonder, what could possibly be in it for Britain? Who are these Zionists, anyways? The answer, of course, is that they had the ability to influence U.S. foreign policy. How did they do this? Through extremely powerful and influential Zionist powerbrokers already in place in the U.S.: Bernard Baruch, Louis Brandeis, Paul Warburg (father of the US Federal Reserve), and Jacob Schiff, just to name a few. Now, what's in it for the Zionists? What do they have to gain? Ahh yes... in exchange for getting the U.S. involved, Britain would have to concede Palestine to the Zionists. Upon Britain's acceptance, the Zionists immediately went to work on Woodrow Wilson and began their American media propaganda campaign against Germany, trying to stir up negative public opinion which would then support a war.
This deal became documented officially when the U.S. entered the war in 1917 and the tide started to turn. James Balfour drafted a letter to Lord Rothschild. This letter became known as the <a href='http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00pp0' target='_blank'>Balfour Declaration.</a> In it, the British Cabinet declares "sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations" and "favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." Done and done. Meanwhile, Zionists in Germany began their internal propaganda fight against the war. Labor strikes were initiated, and enthusiasm for the war very quickly drained. I need not tell you how WW1 ended up. You want to know why Hitler and other Germans came to despise Jews so much? It was because they blamed the Zionists for their defeat in WW1. And in retrospect, they were correct... the Zionists <b>did</b> cause Germany to lose. Although not directly through force... they did it through manipulation of public opinion, both in Germany and in the U.S. Very powerful.
Fast forward to 2001. Clinton, who tried very hard to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians, is gone. Ariel Sharon, the former Israeli military leader, comes to power in Israel. Bush takes over in the U.S. This leads to a <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A45652-2003Feb8¬Found=true' target='_blank'>"deep friendship" and "special closeness"</a> between Sharon and Bush, which has led to "the best administration for Israel since Harry Truman." Israel, very much angry with Clinton for his dozens of personal meetings in the White House with Yasser Arrafat, has finally found someone they can work with. And by work with, I mean very clearly "push their agenda." The agenda of course is not for peace, but for war. Or rather, the complete elimination of Palestinians from Israel and the West Bank and a "secure" home for Jews. Zionism. Apparently the Palestinians don't like the fact that their homeland was stolen from them. Imagine that.
<img src='http://www.shwa.org/pix/otrapix/911/shoesvsweapon.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Terrorism and war, it seems, is the only way for Israel to achieve its objectives. Whether it's invading Lebanon or launching missile strikes against Arabs wielding rocks and shoes, there is a clear-cut history of state-sponsored terrorism in Israel. The problem, of course, is that Israel is a tiny little country, about the size of New Jersey. Without U.S. weapons and foreign aid, they would simply be unable to survive. They are wholly dependent on U.S. support for their existence. Unfortunately, peace is not an option when you're occupying someone else's land. The only peaceful solution to the Palestinians is removal of the Jews. Vice versa of course for the Zionists. Big problem, and you now know exactly why they hate each other so much. Most should have already known this.
Clinton tried to broker peace, but it didn't work. Yitzhak Rabin... who stood on the White House lawn and shook hands with Arrafat... was assasinated in 1995. By a Jew, of all people. Why was he murdered, in a public square, surrounded by police, by a fellow Israeli? Because peace is <b>not</b> an option!
<img src='http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39258000/jpg/_39258241_arafatrabin_ap_238.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
So now you have Bush and Sharon developing a special, deep, and close friendship. You're angry about past efforts to limit your Zionist goals. Remember, peace is not the objective here. Now you have Sharon, who was military brass and comes with a very questionable history of violence, in control. The opportunity is ripe for some action. The goal is to dominate the Middle East and make it more safe for Jews. Terrorism against their own kind cannot be tolerated. The U.S. has officially stayed out of the affair, since there is no actual declaration of war between two states. Israel's enemy is the Arab world, and its ally is the U.S. Very powerful Jewish figures at very high levels in the U.S. administration. Enormous Jewish contributions to Bush campaign funds. Special, deep, friendships. A tremendous amount of Jewish ownership of mass media in America. Every daily paper in New York is owned by a Jew. The environment is ripe. All Israel needs now is a way to get this U.S. military powerhouse to start fighting the "war on terror" that it cannot afford to. More specifically, the "war on Arabs." I think you know where this is going. 9/11.
The Mossad initiates a "false flag" operation against U.S. soil. The objective is to anger the people of the U.S. so that they will support war against their Arab enemies. In order to do this, the event has to be monumental and it has to hurt innocent civilians. Must strike fear in all Americans. Give them a taste of what Israel lives with daily. Oh, and the blame absolutely must be put on Arabs. Doesn't matter which group, since the people of the U.S. are gullible enough to think that all Arabs are terrorists. The Mossad, the Israeli version of our CIA, does their own spying on the Arab world. They know who Al Qaeda is. They know who is planning what and when. They pick up on an idea from Al Qaeda to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings. Sounds like a great idea. This can then easily be traced back to Al Qaeda.
World Trade Center has a new lease signed 6 weeks before 9/11, to a Jew. A Jewish moving company, Zim International, moves out of WTC one week prior to 9/11. Two employees at Odigo, the Israeli Instant Messaging firm, receive advance warning of the attack. 4000 Israelis working in the WTC decide to stay home on 9/11. 5 Israelis are spotted dancing, celebrating, and photographing themselves with the WTC burning in the background. 3000 <b>Americans</b> die. One Israeli, some unfortunate soul who happened to be on one of the planes and didn't get his notice in time.
Now the evidence is found. Miraculously, a passport is found intact some two blocks away from WTC. Oh, and it just happens to be the passport of one Mohammed Atta, the ringleader. The black boxes... they did not survive the crash... but the passport survived safe and intact, how fortunate. Mohammed packs a bag for his suicide mission (uhh, why?) but then somehow forgets to take it along. Conveniently, there is a copy of the Koran, and a note written in Arabic! It's a good thing that bag wasn't on the plane. A rental car is found in the airport. Again, we have another cache of evidence these silly terrorists left behind. More copies of the Koran, some Arabic flight manuals, and the same letter! This is too good to be true! The crash site in Pennsylvania. The largest piece of remains is an 8-inch piece of spine. Yet out of that horrifc crash and ensuing fireball, a letter written in Arabic is found safe and sound. Hey, it's the same letter! Wow, this is fantastic! The Jewish-controlled media eats it up and happily spits it out for a frenzied, scared, American public to swallow whole. All of this evidence was very cleverly planned out. The goal was to pin blame on Islamic extremists. Islamic names are stolen and used as patsies. Some of those people are still alive.
The WTC towers were designed to withstand an impact from a 707 loaded with fuel. The Mossad knew this. The airline hijackings were merely a diversion to make the methodical implosion of the buildings seem plausible. It also makes for great headlines. Those buildings were most definitely brought down by planted explosives. WTC 1, 2, and 7. We can't prove that, unfortunately, since all of the WTC debris was off-limits. It was quickly handled by a single company, and shipped either overseas for recycling or recycled immediately. All of the steel beams, which should have shown tremendous fire damage and weakening according to the publicly stated theory, have long been melted and turned into other products. Why wasn't any of this evidence proving the collapse theory shown to us? The <i>only steel buildings in history to collapse due to fire</i>, and no one gets to look at them? The WTC architecht sits there, dumbfounded, trying to figure out how his building collapsed due to fire? The most heinous crime ever committed against U.S. civilians, and all of the evidence is quickly recycled? Hmm.
Well, now back to modern times. Back to fighting the "war on terror." Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11, as so admitted by Bush himself, but it's okay that we've invaded it without U.N. consent. We're fighting a war on terror, right? And the Iraqis are Arabic, right? Arabs=terrorists, so let's nuke em! Needless to say, this very much benefits Israel. Saddam was the major military threat to Israel for a long time. No one needs to be told that Donald Rumsfeld visited Saddam in 1983 to sell him more chemical weapons, all the while Saddam was gassing tens of thousands of his own people. No one seems to care that Saddam was purchasing our weapons to fight Iran, which cost the lives of millions of people. He was an acceptable dictator and murderer during the 80s, apparently.
Remember the nightly SCUD attacks during the first Gulf War? Where did they go? Tel Aviv. Wipe away whatever is left, and let's move on to the next target. Who will it be? Doesn't really matter, so long as it's Arabic and Israel doesn't like it. Find that next nation, and you'll find our next war. Meanwhile, our brothers and sisters are dying to fight wars for Israel. Bush Oil gets a nice piece of the action too, considering these same countries happen to lie on big oil reserves. It's a win-win for both Bush and Sharon. No wonder they have a deep, special, close friendship. You, I, and the rest of this country are paying for it. Massive unprecedented debt, plummeting economy, increased unemployment, reduced civil liberties... a great, wonderful nation. The land of the free! More like the land of the incredibly gullible and foolish. I can only wonder when this nation is going to wake up. Unfortunately, mass media here is Zionist controlled, so this is the only medium we can truly speak freely.
I have so much more information, but this is about all I can fit in. It's probably too long already. All I ask is for people to think about who stands to gain the most, and who can control public opinion. With both of those, anything is possible.
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Let's get started.
Zionism traces its roots back to the late 1800s, when the movement really started picking up steam. The goal of Zionism has always been to have a safe haven for the Semites of the world. Specifically, they wanted to reclaim the holy land. WW1 presented the first opporunity to sneak in there, as land was going to go one way or the other as Europe fought to redraw its borders. As WW1 was progressing, it became quite clear that Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Ottoman Turkish Empire were going to win. Germany made a favorable offer to Britain to end the war in 1916. Britain did not accept defeat, even though there was tremendous pressure from its citizens to do so. Why? As it turns out, the Zionist leaders had struck a deal with Britain. They promised to drag the U.S. into the war on Britain's side which would lead to victory. Britain had refused the German offer to end the war and accepted the Zionist deal.
Now you might wonder, what could possibly be in it for Britain? Who are these Zionists, anyways? The answer, of course, is that they had the ability to influence U.S. foreign policy. How did they do this? Through extremely powerful and influential Zionist powerbrokers already in place in the U.S.: Bernard Baruch, Louis Brandeis, Paul Warburg (father of the US Federal Reserve), and Jacob Schiff, just to name a few. Now, what's in it for the Zionists? What do they have to gain? Ahh yes... in exchange for getting the U.S. involved, Britain would have to concede Palestine to the Zionists. Upon Britain's acceptance, the Zionists immediately went to work on Woodrow Wilson and began their American media propaganda campaign against Germany, trying to stir up negative public opinion which would then support a war.
This deal became documented officially when the U.S. entered the war in 1917 and the tide started to turn. James Balfour drafted a letter to Lord Rothschild. This letter became known as the <a href='http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00pp0' target='_blank'>Balfour Declaration.</a> In it, the British Cabinet declares "sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations" and "favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." Done and done. Meanwhile, Zionists in Germany began their internal propaganda fight against the war. Labor strikes were initiated, and enthusiasm for the war very quickly drained. I need not tell you how WW1 ended up. You want to know why Hitler and other Germans came to despise Jews so much? It was because they blamed the Zionists for their defeat in WW1. And in retrospect, they were correct... the Zionists <b>did</b> cause Germany to lose. Although not directly through force... they did it through manipulation of public opinion, both in Germany and in the U.S. Very powerful.
Fast forward to 2001. Clinton, who tried very hard to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians, is gone. Ariel Sharon, the former Israeli military leader, comes to power in Israel. Bush takes over in the U.S. This leads to a <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A45652-2003Feb8¬Found=true' target='_blank'>"deep friendship" and "special closeness"</a> between Sharon and Bush, which has led to "the best administration for Israel since Harry Truman." Israel, very much angry with Clinton for his dozens of personal meetings in the White House with Yasser Arrafat, has finally found someone they can work with. And by work with, I mean very clearly "push their agenda." The agenda of course is not for peace, but for war. Or rather, the complete elimination of Palestinians from Israel and the West Bank and a "secure" home for Jews. Zionism. Apparently the Palestinians don't like the fact that their homeland was stolen from them. Imagine that.
<img src='http://www.shwa.org/pix/otrapix/911/shoesvsweapon.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Terrorism and war, it seems, is the only way for Israel to achieve its objectives. Whether it's invading Lebanon or launching missile strikes against Arabs wielding rocks and shoes, there is a clear-cut history of state-sponsored terrorism in Israel. The problem, of course, is that Israel is a tiny little country, about the size of New Jersey. Without U.S. weapons and foreign aid, they would simply be unable to survive. They are wholly dependent on U.S. support for their existence. Unfortunately, peace is not an option when you're occupying someone else's land. The only peaceful solution to the Palestinians is removal of the Jews. Vice versa of course for the Zionists. Big problem, and you now know exactly why they hate each other so much. Most should have already known this.
Clinton tried to broker peace, but it didn't work. Yitzhak Rabin... who stood on the White House lawn and shook hands with Arrafat... was assasinated in 1995. By a Jew, of all people. Why was he murdered, in a public square, surrounded by police, by a fellow Israeli? Because peace is <b>not</b> an option!
<img src='http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39258000/jpg/_39258241_arafatrabin_ap_238.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
So now you have Bush and Sharon developing a special, deep, and close friendship. You're angry about past efforts to limit your Zionist goals. Remember, peace is not the objective here. Now you have Sharon, who was military brass and comes with a very questionable history of violence, in control. The opportunity is ripe for some action. The goal is to dominate the Middle East and make it more safe for Jews. Terrorism against their own kind cannot be tolerated. The U.S. has officially stayed out of the affair, since there is no actual declaration of war between two states. Israel's enemy is the Arab world, and its ally is the U.S. Very powerful Jewish figures at very high levels in the U.S. administration. Enormous Jewish contributions to Bush campaign funds. Special, deep, friendships. A tremendous amount of Jewish ownership of mass media in America. Every daily paper in New York is owned by a Jew. The environment is ripe. All Israel needs now is a way to get this U.S. military powerhouse to start fighting the "war on terror" that it cannot afford to. More specifically, the "war on Arabs." I think you know where this is going. 9/11.
The Mossad initiates a "false flag" operation against U.S. soil. The objective is to anger the people of the U.S. so that they will support war against their Arab enemies. In order to do this, the event has to be monumental and it has to hurt innocent civilians. Must strike fear in all Americans. Give them a taste of what Israel lives with daily. Oh, and the blame absolutely must be put on Arabs. Doesn't matter which group, since the people of the U.S. are gullible enough to think that all Arabs are terrorists. The Mossad, the Israeli version of our CIA, does their own spying on the Arab world. They know who Al Qaeda is. They know who is planning what and when. They pick up on an idea from Al Qaeda to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings. Sounds like a great idea. This can then easily be traced back to Al Qaeda.
World Trade Center has a new lease signed 6 weeks before 9/11, to a Jew. A Jewish moving company, Zim International, moves out of WTC one week prior to 9/11. Two employees at Odigo, the Israeli Instant Messaging firm, receive advance warning of the attack. 4000 Israelis working in the WTC decide to stay home on 9/11. 5 Israelis are spotted dancing, celebrating, and photographing themselves with the WTC burning in the background. 3000 <b>Americans</b> die. One Israeli, some unfortunate soul who happened to be on one of the planes and didn't get his notice in time.
Now the evidence is found. Miraculously, a passport is found intact some two blocks away from WTC. Oh, and it just happens to be the passport of one Mohammed Atta, the ringleader. The black boxes... they did not survive the crash... but the passport survived safe and intact, how fortunate. Mohammed packs a bag for his suicide mission (uhh, why?) but then somehow forgets to take it along. Conveniently, there is a copy of the Koran, and a note written in Arabic! It's a good thing that bag wasn't on the plane. A rental car is found in the airport. Again, we have another cache of evidence these silly terrorists left behind. More copies of the Koran, some Arabic flight manuals, and the same letter! This is too good to be true! The crash site in Pennsylvania. The largest piece of remains is an 8-inch piece of spine. Yet out of that horrifc crash and ensuing fireball, a letter written in Arabic is found safe and sound. Hey, it's the same letter! Wow, this is fantastic! The Jewish-controlled media eats it up and happily spits it out for a frenzied, scared, American public to swallow whole. All of this evidence was very cleverly planned out. The goal was to pin blame on Islamic extremists. Islamic names are stolen and used as patsies. Some of those people are still alive.
The WTC towers were designed to withstand an impact from a 707 loaded with fuel. The Mossad knew this. The airline hijackings were merely a diversion to make the methodical implosion of the buildings seem plausible. It also makes for great headlines. Those buildings were most definitely brought down by planted explosives. WTC 1, 2, and 7. We can't prove that, unfortunately, since all of the WTC debris was off-limits. It was quickly handled by a single company, and shipped either overseas for recycling or recycled immediately. All of the steel beams, which should have shown tremendous fire damage and weakening according to the publicly stated theory, have long been melted and turned into other products. Why wasn't any of this evidence proving the collapse theory shown to us? The <i>only steel buildings in history to collapse due to fire</i>, and no one gets to look at them? The WTC architecht sits there, dumbfounded, trying to figure out how his building collapsed due to fire? The most heinous crime ever committed against U.S. civilians, and all of the evidence is quickly recycled? Hmm.
Well, now back to modern times. Back to fighting the "war on terror." Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11, as so admitted by Bush himself, but it's okay that we've invaded it without U.N. consent. We're fighting a war on terror, right? And the Iraqis are Arabic, right? Arabs=terrorists, so let's nuke em! Needless to say, this very much benefits Israel. Saddam was the major military threat to Israel for a long time. No one needs to be told that Donald Rumsfeld visited Saddam in 1983 to sell him more chemical weapons, all the while Saddam was gassing tens of thousands of his own people. No one seems to care that Saddam was purchasing our weapons to fight Iran, which cost the lives of millions of people. He was an acceptable dictator and murderer during the 80s, apparently.
Remember the nightly SCUD attacks during the first Gulf War? Where did they go? Tel Aviv. Wipe away whatever is left, and let's move on to the next target. Who will it be? Doesn't really matter, so long as it's Arabic and Israel doesn't like it. Find that next nation, and you'll find our next war. Meanwhile, our brothers and sisters are dying to fight wars for Israel. Bush Oil gets a nice piece of the action too, considering these same countries happen to lie on big oil reserves. It's a win-win for both Bush and Sharon. No wonder they have a deep, special, close friendship. You, I, and the rest of this country are paying for it. Massive unprecedented debt, plummeting economy, increased unemployment, reduced civil liberties... a great, wonderful nation. The land of the free! More like the land of the incredibly gullible and foolish. I can only wonder when this nation is going to wake up. Unfortunately, mass media here is Zionist controlled, so this is the only medium we can truly speak freely.
I have so much more information, but this is about all I can fit in. It's probably too long already. All I ask is for people to think about who stands to gain the most, and who can control public opinion. With both of those, anything is possible.
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<i>"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."</i> - <a href='http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html' target='_blank'>Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with Parade Magazine</a>
That's straight from defenselink.mil, so there isn't much questioning it. Rumsfeld was in the Pentagon when it was hit. He clearly stated "missile to damage this building." The missile went through three of the rings. The exit hole is shown below, at the bottom-right:
<img src='http://www.the7thfire.com/images/trajectoire.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Note the broken windows, and the orientation of the hole to the ground and the two windows above it. Note also the fire damage in the lower-left side. Now take a look at this image of the exit hole:
<img src='http://www.the7thfire.com/images/exitPentagon.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/images/trou3_agr_petite_233.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero14/missile/images/trou4_agr_petite_233.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
We're definitely talking about terrorists here. Except we're going after the <b>wrong ones</b>.
Well from your statement you don't know who he really was, heh.
Speaking of Nostradamus, I'm gonna start wearing a blue turban.
But my opinion doesn't matter, right? I'm just a sheep who blindly follows.
Those crafty Zionists were also smart enough to scatter plane parts on the Pentagon lawn during the crash.
<a href='http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm' target='_blank'>Snopes</a>
As for the insinuations about the jews, may I direct you here: <a href='http://www.nicedoggie.net/archives/002714.html#002714' target='_blank'>Israel Troll Faq</a>
The gaurdian also enlighted the Zionist conspiracy
<a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550486,00.html' target='_blank'>here</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."
A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/debunking/urbanlegends.html' target='_blank'>Some final proof</a> thats pretty rock solid. You need to make way too many exceptions for it NOT to have been a plane.
I can't defend the "Jews did it!" argument, since there isn't any proof supporting (or not supporting) it, besides eyewitness accounts of Arabs, Praying, etc.
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Yeah, that cartoon is pretty racist, or at least in very poor taste.
Also: That Nostradamus thing has been debunked a BAJILLION times. Anytime something happens, people run around like OMG NOSTrADAMUS!!!11
Was waiting for when that would come, and I am not the least bit surprised it was you. Point any kind of finger at Israel's wrong-doings, and you're automatically a Hitler-loving anti-semite. Has the Zionist-controlled media here in the U.S. really warped your mind that far? I don't have a problem with Jews, I have a problem with <b>Zionist</b> terrorists. I'm not the only one:
<img src='http://www.shwa.org/pix/otrapix/Palestine/judaism.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
There are <a href='http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/' target='_blank'>Jews who despise Zionism</a>. As with ANY religion, there are people that take it to the extreme. You freely admit there are Islamics that have gone to extremes. Why not accept the fact that there are Zionists that also go to extremes? Is it really that hard to accept?
<a href='http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0897/9708099.htm' target='_blank'>Open Secrets: Israel Nuclear and Foreign Policies</a>
<a href='http://www.compuserb.com/benfreed.htm' target='_blank'>Benjamin Freedman Speaks: A Jewish Defector Warns Americap</a>
<a href='http://www.rense.com/general31/lifeof.htm' target='_blank'>The Life Of An American Jew In Racist-Marxist Israel</a>
And the best site of them all, one that you should read thoroughly, is that of a Henry Makow, now considered by Zionists as a self-hating Jew: <a href='http://www.savethemales.ca' target='_blank'>save the males.ca</a>
Only a small handful of Jews lived in Palestine prior to the mass immigration in the 20th century. Do you agree or disagree? Do you understand what Zionism is, or are you just linking to pro-Israel sites? I can find thousands of them myself... there is no shortage here in the U.S. Pro-Israel propaganda not-withstanding, that does not change the fact that 100 years ago <b>Palestine was not Israel</b>. Zionism is about recapturing land lost thousands of years ago and securing a safe homeland for Jews everywhere. It has <i>nothing to do with Judaism!</i> Even though most people, like yourself, seem to confuse the two. Some people, believe it or not Jammer, are actually willing to do <i>whatever it takes</i> to ensure success in this endeavor. And that includes terrorism. Shocking, I know, and not something you're going to ever read in the NY Times, or see on CNN, ABC, NBC, Time, Disney, or any other Zionist-owned or Zionist-controlled media outlet.
Now, instead of shifting the topic, argue these points. Learn a little first, however, and then respond.
Obviously , destroying the WTC is part of their evil plan !!!11
Evis , I'm disappointed. Though your rants aren't exactly simplistic , your thesis is absolutely irrational. The links you posted are mostly worthless.
I vote for a thread lock.
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I think that would be the badest thing, that can be done...just lock the thread...cause there are no problems and no theories about mossat and 9/11 ... hihi... lets live in our nice world, where the government tells us, what is right and what isnt.
I dont know, if this all has happened, as Mr. Eviscarator says, but i know, that in the "arab world" most people think so about 9/11... so it has to be descussed... because the fact, that so many IMPORTANT people think, that this is true... and dont forget, the arabs are really involved and so their oppinion is very very important... tells us, that we mustnt just "lock the thread" so, that no one can tell us such lies (ironic!!!)
i think in real, there is no one, who really knows, what really happened..
..same as in ww2..
i am from austria... and in this country rules a lock it - mentality (is that correct?? argh..)... people say: we werent bad in ww2... the germans where the bad guys, we were just victims... we were attacked... thats ****... the people were happy to unite with the germans... and they hated the jews too...
...there are also other people, who think, that we didnt killl jews... they say, that the u.s. government managed it, that it seems, that the germans were bad people and killed many jews...and in reality, no jew was harmed... our "konzentrationslager" were all de jews where burnt were built by allied forces after the war... i know...thats ****...cause there are civilians who tell us from smoke and its smell...and that they knew what happened inside the "konzentrationslager" ... but they were afraid...
i want to say much more... comment the post from eviscarator... but i have to go now...
hope to read you...
I skimmed through most of this post and this one sentence caught my eye. And, consequently, negated the rest of this "theory". As a student of engineering, I sought out articles and television documentaries which analyzed the effects of the impact and the catastrophic failure of the support structures. One thing is known for sure: These buildings, and all other buildings that have been built, were not designed to withstand the impact of a fully fueled 707. The concept was never even considered. The fact that the impact itself didn't bring the first building down actually surprised the designers. And, as we know now, it was the combination of the impact and the intense heat which caused buckling in the supports.
And for the mods, I recall a thread started here a few months ago from someone in an African Militant group. That thread and its originator were summarily removed without a trace.
There are plenty of other holes in his whole post, but then again his entire viewpoint is on shakey ground
You want the thread locked and Evi banned?
Well, that's *just* what Zionist-controlled media wants!
In fact, if Evi got banned, I'm sure the Global Zionist Conspiracy would donate a large sum of money to Constellation.
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You want the thread locked and Evi banned?
Well, that's *just* what Zionist-controlled media wants!
In fact, if Evi got banned, I'm sure the Global Zionist Conspiracy would donate a large sum of money to Constellation.
So let's ban him right away! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hahahahahhahahahahah good stuff.
<i>"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."</i> - <a href='http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html' target='_blank'>Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with Parade Magazine</a>
That's straight from defenselink.mil, so there isn't much questioning it. Rumsfeld was in the Pentagon when it was hit. He clearly stated "missile to damage this building." The missile went through three of the rings. The exit hole is shown below, at the bottom-right:
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The term "missile" can be used in a very broad sense. According to <a href='http://www.dictionary.com/' target='_blank'>dictionary.com</a> (Sorry, i can't find my proper dictionary) a "missile" can also be described as "An object or weapon that is fired, thrown, dropped, or otherwise projected at a target; a projectile."
If i threw my shoe at you, it would be considered a missile. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Concidentally it no longer exists!
The photos showed some damn interesting things :
Crash scene photos,where there is ZERO debris from the plane.Interesting.
A hand-drawing of a F-16 fighter plane over the hole in the pentagon.Matches nearly perfectly with the hole slightly larger than the F-16.However,put in the alleged hijacked plane,and surprise surprise,the drawing extends WAY beyond the hole.The only,ONLY way the hijacked plane would have caused the hole is if SOMEHOW,a LARGE part of the plane dissapeared before impact.
Its simple common sense.I stick a small knife into you,the doctors are definately not going to think i stuck you with a large knife,because the size of the hole says its impossible.
One thing i have been strongly annoyed at is that anyone who comes up with a different explanation for 9/11,NO MATTER how strong his evidence is,NO MATTER how strong his explanations is,he is called "Conspiracy nut" and all his hard-work is considered FALSE in the space of 5 seconds.
Interesting.
But yet...the government says something...and the evidence shows that its NOT true...which it DOES SHOW....you accept it.
Interesting.
And people think governments cant hurt people.Are you stupid.They are men/women in POWER.When you are in power you dont tend to think of the people as PEOPLE.You think of them as OBJECTS.You dont feel compassion to OBJECTS.They are OBJECTS that provide you with power(Votes).To get the votes,you have to sway the objects in your favour.To do that,you can do anything you want.After all,all you have to do is issue an official press statement,and its automatically accepted.It doesnt matter if there is a ton of evidence contracting your official statement....it WILL be accepted as true because....if any person doesnt accept it as true,that person is a conspiracy nut.
Sometimes i think shows like X-Files were created to get the conspiracy nut mentality going in americans.
Another example.Port arthur shooting,Australia i believe.The polcie ALLEGES that a mentally retarded man,managed to kill several dozen of people in a CAFE(INDOOR AREA!) with NO EAR PROTECTION WHATSOEVER(YOU try that,you have pink elephants in your eyes).And heres the MOST important thing.THE MENTALLY RETARDED MAN WHO'S VISION IS AFFECTED WITH PINK ELEPHANTS ACHIEVED AN ACCURACY RATE CONSISTENT WITH SPECIAL OPERATIONS SOLDIERS AKA COMMANDOS.Im not talking about merely HITTING the victims...im talking about HEAD and HEART(get this...HEART!) shots on MOVING targets in a NOISY indoor environment with screams,chairs going everywhere,people using furniture as cover,and the shooter did not panick.
If a normal,civilian,sport shooter can do this,why do we need to TRAIN commandos?
Oh and theres this rather interesting inconsistency.When police cornered him in a house somewhere,he fired hundreds of rounds with a ZERO accuracy rate.Thats right the commando-like shooter who got head/heart shots at moving targets indoors with furniture blocking the way,not to mention no ear protection,missed stationery targets that had lovely patrol car lights to illuminate them!WOW!Did he turn off his aimbot?
Then lets look at the trial.The prosecution KNEW that they would lose if they went to court just like that.So they went illegal.They somehow convicned the relatives of the allegeded shooter to blackmail him into confessing,or else they would never talk to him again.Dont laugh.Hes mentally retarded(tends to be emotional) and his relatives were ALL that he had left.So he confessed.This is HIGHLY ILLEGAL FORM OF INTERROGATION.
People pointed out the inconsistencies.Showed evidence.Stastistics.
All it took was brainless herd syndrome morons to say "OMG CONSPIRACY NUT!".
Bingo no more opposition to the official version of port arthur shootings.
Who did the port arthus shootings?Some other government.Why not the australians?Look at the results of the shooting.Sports shooting was HEAVILY regulated from then on.Australian army has traditionally depended on sports shooters to augment its armed forces in times of needs,but now?Thats gone man gone.
Oh btw theres another time when some other government tried to do something similar...im not sure if it was a shooting or not...it was a event that was intended to cause massive emotions,so no one would look at the situation clearly.
They failed.
Why?They forgot time difference.They phoned in an anoymouse tip that listed the scrapegoat as the result,had the "evidence" planted,butttttttt
They phoned in too early!Someone checked and knew that it was IMPOSSIBLE for the tippers to know about the event,let alone know who/where the alleged perpetator of the event was,what the evidence planted was,etc,UNLESS they were the perpeterators of the event themselves!
Do not trust your governemtn.They dont view you as the people.They say they do.Lies.Politics quickly kills any naive possibilites about caring for the people.The president/prime minister is a master of politics,and will NOT have any care/compassion regarding his people.All that stuff is for show and to elict public support.
We live in a world,in interesting times.
<span style='color:red'><b>Now now, CWAG... let's not go piping off at authority figures now.</span></b>
Yes, I believe there's something odd going on with 11/9 strikes. Many things don't really much with what we have heard. Maybe Laden is guilty but I think at least some of the evidence was planted.
So, let's take this one step at a time. Perhaps the length of the original post was too long for you to read, so you simply dismissed it all because you didn't want to read it. So I will present the thesis one step at a time, and perhaps everyone will be able to keep up. Here's question 1.
1. Do you feel Israel stands to gain from a prolonged war against Arab countries in the Middle East?
Israel didn't need a war on Iraq for a huge wave of Arab hatred. Arabs have hated Israel for half a century, for what they consider Isreal's illegitimate occupation of Palestine. This occupation has led to some brutally horrific treatment by the Israeli army towards Palestinians, the people they systematically evicted. Iraqi weapons or not, Israel feels much safer with the U.S. military in Iraq instead of Saddam. Desperate people resort to desperate measures when pushed into a corner. That is why Saddam launched his SCUDs towards Israel during Gulf War I. Why else would he do so? He clearly understood who was really pushing the U.S. agenda.
This time around, 12 years of sanctions and inspections rendered his country and military impotent, leading to a swift overthrow. Desperate Iraqis will take up whatever arms they have and continue to fight, and that's what we're seeing in Iraq now. Sooner or later, you're going to have Iraqi dissidents throwing rocks and shoes at the U.S. military when their weapons are emptied.
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That would be easy to validate; all we need are the steel beams to investigate and look at the damage. Engineers could have used that incredibly valuable information to design plane-impact-proof structures in the future. So tell me, where are the steel beams and supports from WTC so we can begin to look at them?
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Okay, so in one term he refers to planes, the other he refers to a missile. This coming from the Secretary of Defense of the United States of America, sitting in the Pentagon during the attacks, and he casually refers to a plane purposefully flown into the building as a "missile?" Sorry if I sound incredulous, but... I am.
And the planes into the WTC, why were they still considered planes? Very clearly they were flying missiles directed at the towers, right?
<a href='http://www.shwa.org/pix/otrapix/911/wtc7big.ram' target='_blank'>WTC-7 Demolition</a>
Just as a reference, here's a video clip of a similar building being purposefully demolished:
<a href='http://www.shwa.org/pix/otrapix/911/demo3.ram' target='_blank'>Planned demolition</a>
Fully loaded and fully fuel'd 747.
A thick massive steel support girder.
Plane hits girder.
Byby girder, byby support. In no way possible were the WTC's up to being hit with such a force, and then, hmm....explosion? The fuel. Fuel fires are almost a thousand times more deadly and hot than your regular campfire, plus, thousands of gallons of fuel were in that plane. Many people dont realize, that with such and explosion, there is an violent inward rush of air afterwards. Air blasted out is then sucked in very quickly, shifting debres, and could have ripped more supports off the towers. The explosion and air sucking action could have been the reason the artifacts were thrown clear.