Help, Server Is Playing Crazy :(

surprise

<div class="IPBDescription">what can i do?</div> well, the problem is as following:

-the server is empty for a period of time
-timeleft has been reduced to half or whatever
-people join
-they join both teams


rines wont spawn and game wont begin, i think its the same with aliens :/

tounamentmode is off, so ready is not necessery.

anyone knows how to fix this?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
any help would be appreciatet.

and btw, server runs on linux, amx 0.9.3 installed...

Pebbles-TPF

Check if cheats are on/off

surprise

no ^^

surely not...

and if they were off the server had to start the game anyways...

devicenull

Switch maps.. This is usually caused by one player switching teams multiple times, eventually he no longer respwans, and screws up the game until the map is changed.. restarting the round may work too.. if none work, restart the server

DEADscott

The clue here is the Marines wont spawn. That means the round has started and they CANT spawn because they have no IP.

What causes a sever to not stop a round with no players on a team? The only thing I know of is sv_cheats 1.

It must be. Check again.

surprise

i know when cheats are on, and they are not ^^

that cant be the problem....
so no one has an idea what to do against that problem, :*(

well, seems we have to restart everytime <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

DEADscott

If Aliens can spawn and Marines cannot, that means the round has already started.

The Aliens can spawn because they have a Hive. The Marines cant spawn because they dont have an IP.

So........you must find out why the round is starting.

Then you also have the round not ending when 1 team has no players.

If sv_cheats are on, the game will NOT end when 1 or both teams have no players.

I can think of NO other reason for this to be happining.

Go into the server and tell me if the round is running. Can you build stuff or evolve with only 1 player?

{EDIT} I dont use amx, but there must be a way to turn on sv_cheats with amx. So check both cvars. The server cvar and the amx command.

Thansal

actualy cheats probably were OFF


I have rn into this before and never actualy posted it in the bug reports (should have)

basicaly what hapens is that after x time marines can't join with out an IP
Aliens however auto start with one.
Thus marines can no longer spawn but aliens can.
The only way to end the round is a map change....

(I have run into this messing around with a lan server and when on a nearly empty server that people started showing up in)

surprise

yeah, thats exactly the problem...
seems you can describe better then me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

i thought it would have been a configuration error, but it rather seems to be a bug in ns... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

DEADscott

So what starts the round? Why does the round not end without players?

Hologram0

I would check the cvar that controls the lates start time (when you dont just spawn, you must use the IP) One way to check for this is have the alines spawn, then join aliens and see if you spawn right away or need to use the hive. If you dont need the hive you joined within the late-start time. Else you have a very short latestart time that could be causing your problems.
I dont know the Cvar off the top of my head but im sure that some one can tell you what it is. Another way you could fix it is try running a config from a healthy server, that should un-do and mishaps you may have done when altering these settings.

Just a though.

surprise

is there a system to prevent constant team/readyroom changing?

i had some testing alone and i found that the problem occured on both teams when you joined a team twice...

so you could go:
alien-rr-alien(bugged) or
alien-rr-marine-rr-alien(bugged)
marine-rr-marine(bugged)
as soon as you join the team twice you cant respawn...

as i already said that was only tested alone, so i have to test again how it is when another player enters other team then you while you cant respawn

devicenull

<!--QuoteBegin--surprise+Nov 1 2003, 03:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (surprise @ Nov 1 2003, 03:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> is there a system to prevent constant team/readyroom changing?

i had some testing alone and i found that the problem occured on both teams when you joined a team twice...

so you could go:
alien-rr-alien(bugged) or
alien-rr-marine-rr-alien(bugged)
marine-rr-marine(bugged)
as soon as you join the team twice you cant respawn...

as i already said that was only tested alone, so i have to test again how it is when another player enters other team then you while you cant respawn <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats pretty much what happens, you get someone bored, waiting for a game, and they switch back and forth a few times, then they stop spwaning

surprise

latejointime has no effect, cause it doesnt matter how long you dont join a team but if you join a team twice...