Charles Lindbergh Speech In 1941
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Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13946Members, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Very striking resemblance</div> I've been doing a lot of research lately, looking for causes to our problems in Iraq, the true perpetrators behind 9/11, and the true roots behind all of our modern-day geopolitical struggles. I came across a speech made by Charles Lindbergh in 1941 to a group of people in Des Moines, Iowa. In it he details how America was being forced into World War 2. It is very interesting to read this and compare it to what has occurred in modern times. Shockingly, this speech was made on September 11th, 1941. Exactly 60 years prior. This speech was made just a few short months before Pearl Harbor (the "incident" he actually talks about being required.) In summary, he describes how a nation can be brought to war even if the people of the country do not want for it. Essentially what Goering later claimed during the Nuremburg Trials. He urges the audience to think for themselves and not jump to conclusions so rapidly. Compare what he said 60 years ago to what has happened today.
<a href='http://www.charleslindbergh.com/americanfirst/speech.asp' target='_blank'>Des Moines Speech: Delivered in Des Moines, Iowa, on September 11, 1941</a>
Looking at the causes and our involvement in WW1, how Israel came to take over Palestine, the rise of German anti-Semitism between WW1 and 2, causes of WW2, and our involvement in WW2, I truly think we are fighting a 100-year war... for someone else. I am trying to piece together some kind of synopsis here, but I'm struggling to pick it out exactly. For now, read that speech and just try to paint a mental picture of what life was like 60+ years ago here in America.
<a href='http://www.charleslindbergh.com/americanfirst/speech.asp' target='_blank'>Des Moines Speech: Delivered in Des Moines, Iowa, on September 11, 1941</a>
Looking at the causes and our involvement in WW1, how Israel came to take over Palestine, the rise of German anti-Semitism between WW1 and 2, causes of WW2, and our involvement in WW2, I truly think we are fighting a 100-year war... for someone else. I am trying to piece together some kind of synopsis here, but I'm struggling to pick it out exactly. For now, read that speech and just try to paint a mental picture of what life was like 60+ years ago here in America.
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The ships were delivering all sorts all badly needed supplies to England.
Someone who knows more about military history, please correct me if I'm wrong.
If we are talking about conspiracy theories, I can't believe american authors could be so incredibly stupid to make such an obvious connection. Assuming 'they' destroyed WTC's. If we are talking about how politcians talk similiar crap in different times: yes, they do <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The ships were delivering all sorts all badly needed supplies to England.
Someone who knows more about military history, please correct me if I'm wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, American merchant ships were under constant attack. <b>None</b> of that persuaded the 80% of Americans at the time that did not want to get involved in "Europe's War." The problem was that only an overt act of war directly against American soil would provoke a nation into entering the conflict. Hence Pearl Harbor.
If the link doesn't work, just do a Google search on "Charles Lindbergh Des Moines speech" and you should find countless sites that replicate it.
Don't know what to say, but nice.
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From my history lessons through school, I knew of Lindbergh and his isolationist stance. But that's about as far as it went. This really opens up a lot of questions.
The ships were delivering all sorts all badly needed supplies to England.
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Are you sure those ships werent actually providing goods to england?
The ships were delivering all sorts all badly needed supplies to England.
Someone who knows more about military history, please correct me if I'm wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not only were the U-Boats killing merchant marines, in 1941 a german U-Boat sunk an american destroyer long before the attack on Pearl Harbor. From the time that Great Britain began fighting with Germany to Pearl Harbor, over 5000 american sailors had been killed by german submarine attacks.
The ships were delivering all sorts all badly needed supplies to England.
Someone who knows more about military history, please correct me if I'm wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you sure those ships werent actually providing goods to england? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't remember if it was WW1 or WW2, but the Germans sank an American passenger ship ( i can't remember if it was "the" one that got America into WW1), and when the Americans complained about it, the Germans claimed that it was carrying ammunition and arms to England when America wasn't officially involved in the war.
Recent searches of the ship found that the hold was in fact stuffed full of ammo and arms. So yes, America was involved in the war before they were "officially" involved.