Perfect Game Difficulty

TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What games?</div> What games have you played that felt like they were really hard but managed to keep you on your toes? Like by not giving you too much ammo, but enough so you had to carefully line up your shots. And making health sparse enough so you didnt feel invincible.

I think Max Payne 2 was one of those games, I would get to 10% health and think "Crap, Im so dead." Then I would find just enough painkillers to keep me alive through the next battle. I don't think I was ever above 50% health through the whole game. I almost turned on godmode twice, but yet again, ran into some painkillers at just the right time.
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    The first Max Payne was like that too... except for the baseball bat chapter... ooooh I hated that... once I finally did it though I spent about five minutes just beating a corpse with the bat.
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    i hated the baseball level too at the beginning, then i found out that you can hit people with it through doors <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->, the first door you exit with opens inward iirc, so you go out, get them to chase you, go behind the door, and ta-daaaa!
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TenSix+Oct 24 2003, 02:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TenSix @ Oct 24 2003, 02:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What games have you played that felt like they were really hard but managed to keep you on your toes? Like by not giving you too much ammo, but enough so you had to carefully line up your shots. And making health sparse enough so you didnt feel invincible.

    I think Max Payne 2 was one of those games, I would get to 10% health and think "Crap, Im so dead." Then I would find just enough painkillers to keep me alive through the next battle. I don't think I was ever above 50% health through the whole game. I almost turned on godmode twice, but yet again, ran into some painkillers at just the right time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Half-Life on hard...JUST as you think your toast there's a couple batteries for the ol'HEV suit, and a medpack. Although if you do mess up you won't live to reach them <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    Diablo, 1 & 2. I would wreak havoc through thousands of demons, find a potion, fight The Butcher, get myself a potion, geez, don't think I was ever more than an inch away from death in that game.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    halo on legendary is like.. so perfectly calibrated, in every way. AI, everything.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Deus Ex. Did that even have a difficulty? I think I picked the hardest one.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    I prefer Halo on Heroic, personally. I haven't got the skillz for Legendary yet.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Oct 24 2003, 08:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Oct 24 2003, 08:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I prefer Halo on Heroic, personally. I haven't got the skillz for Legendary yet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you're having more fun than i am =3

    honing the skillz is great fun ^_^
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Oct 24 2003, 10:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Oct 24 2003, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Deus Ex. Did that even have a difficulty? I think I picked the hardest one.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Had lots of different difficulties (customisable? Not sure, very long time since I played it). Including one where headshots meant instadeath.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Halo, Deus Ex and Resident Evils =3
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Geminosity+Oct 24 2003, 01:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Oct 24 2003, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...Resident Evils =3 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh yeah. RE:Nemesis is the best one! ^_^
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Oct 24 2003, 03:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Oct 24 2003, 03:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Oct 24 2003, 10:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Oct 24 2003, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Deus Ex. Did that even have a difficulty? I think I picked the hardest one.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Had lots of different difficulties (customisable? Not sure, very long time since I played it). Including one where headshots meant instadeath. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think there was Easy, Normal, Hard and Realistic. Realistic = 1 or 2 shot death.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    I just finished Halo in heroic. I plan to go back and do it in legendary now. I hear it is hard as hell though. The library is particularly fun with heroic. I can't wait to get there under legendary. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    I HATED realistic. It was like... realistic. Some lone NSF fool popped me with his standard pistol in the first level and I died.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    I think the only game i can truly say i've completed without cheats is Metal Gear Solid 1. 'Tis a good game too.

    PENGUIN
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Call of Duty: Dawnville demo on veteran. Realism to the max. This actually forces you to be smart. Running into the middle of battle screaming and guns blazing is definately not the best option, and can seriously affect your health.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Oct 24 2003, 11:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Oct 24 2003, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I HATED realistic. It was like... realistic. Some lone NSF fool popped me with his standard pistol in the first level and I died.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Let's sit in a corner and share our pain.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Perfect Dark.

    Oh, and I didn't have any difficulty at all with Deus Ex. It was fun, yes, but I didn't have any trouble with it at all. I played through it on "realistic", and didn't have to resort to the quicksave\quickload approach to difficult gunfights. I figure this was due to the fact that I bought Deus Ex a looong time after it came out, and after I'd already picked up "elite" special ops skills from Perfect Dark.

    Deus Ex seemed to be designed for "either sneak past everyone without fighting", or "go in guns blazing" - it seemed completely unprepared for "sneak around killing people one by one, like n1nj4".

    Anyway, returning to the point, Perfect Dark was great. Difficult and rewarding, and immune to quicksaveitis by the fact that you can't save mid way through a mission <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    Doom ...Any Doom.
    On nightmare.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    Metal Gear Solid, can't count how many times I thought I was gonna die since there are traps, and soldiers and.....more traps

    Especially the one where the floor has trapdoors.

    Even worse on hard mode since there's no radar (OMG!)
  • Shut_UpShut_Up Join Date: 2003-04-25 Member: 15840Members
  • Bosnian_CowboyBosnian_Cowboy Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17088Members, Constellation
    Deus Ex for me was pretty easy. I just ran.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    Minesweeper...... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> I've only beat it once, and I even got a pic of it!


    On the pic, It was the first game of minesweeper I've ever tried....After I beat it in like 6 seconds, i tried again and never beat it again, haha....I still dont get the point of the game... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    Operation Flashpoint

    Ho Boy, Pain.....

    (And no quicksave for all you "Quicksaving Private Ryan" types)
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mullet+Oct 26 2003, 04:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Oct 26 2003, 04:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I still dont get the point of the game... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's really not complicated. When you left click on a square, there are three things that can happen:

    1: It's a mine. You die.
    2: It's not a mine, but it's next to some mines. It will change into a number telling you how many mines it's next to.
    3: It's not a mine, and it's not next to any mines. That means it's safe to left click on any square around it. So the game does it for you. Therefore, if there's a whole mine-free patch, you'll a lot of numbered squares which you can use to work out where the mines are.

    When you've worked out where a mine is, you right click it to mark it. This doesn't actually *do* anything, except for stopping you from left clicking it. You don't actually have to flag all the mines, you just have to clear all the clear spaces. The right clicking is for your own reference.
  • Kung_FoolKung_Fool Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4092Members
    I have to say Deus Ex, because your playing style really affects the overall difficulty of the game.

    For example:

    Small arms dude ==> Kinda easy if done right, seems like Half - Life with glock only for me
    Melee fighter ==> Have to sneak and use your wits to stay alive
    Hacker ==> Combat skills kinda suck, so you have to hack into systems
    Heavy weapons guy ==> Massacre
    Bomber ==> Set traps and lure enemies to them, although ammo is pretty rare and most encounters have to be avoided
    etc. (Of course, all the skills of the game can be combined)

    Oh, the possibilities... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    Nethack, that game is perfectly balanced. And free, go out and download it
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+Oct 26 2003, 05:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ Oct 26 2003, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nethack, that game is perfectly balanced. And free, go out and download it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WTH DOOD WEAR SI TEH GRAFIX!!!!!!?!?!11!!11?? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Seriously though, I try to like Nethack, but every time I play it I think "WTH... why I am playing this when I have Diablo?"

    And now to actually contribute to the topic, System Shock 2 is probably the best balanced game I've ever played when it comes to difficulty, you're <i>always</i> almost out of ammo!
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Oct 26 2003, 08:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Oct 26 2003, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+Oct 26 2003, 05:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ Oct 26 2003, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nethack, that game is perfectly balanced. And free, go out and download it <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WTH DOOD WEAR SI TEH GRAFIX!!!!!!?!?!11!!11?? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Seriously though, I try to like Nethack, but every time I play it I think "WTH... why I am playing this when I have Diablo?"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    DIE! DIE! DIE! YAAAARGH!

    "You hit the Puse! You hit the Pulse! The Pulse misses. --more--"

    Because Diablo has no depth whatsoever. Diablo is point and click pointlessness. Nethack is challenging, and incredibly detailed.

    Let's take one scenario to illustrate its detail:
    You're on your merry way and you meet a floating eye. These things are harmless, but they paralyse you with their gaze if you attack them. Fortunately, you've got a looking glass. You show the floating eye its own reflection, and it paralyses itself allowing you to safely kill it. You eat its corpse, gaining telepathy. Telepathy only really becomes active when you're blind, but fortunately you've got a blindfold. You put the blindfold on, and your telepathy kicks in, allowing you to sense anything on the level with a brain. You can't, however, detect the skeleton you run into because it doesn't technically have a brain. You manage to kill it, however, and decide to remove the blindfold.

    Unfortunately, the blindfold is cursed, so you can't take it off. Fortunately, you can see a water nymph on the level with your telepathy. You drop everything you're carrying except for the cursed blindfold, find the water nymph, and attack her. She pretends to be friendly, and steals your blindfold while you're distracted. Hooray!

    You get your stuff back, and proceed on your way. You meet a cockatrice, which is a monster that can turn people to stone. You manage to kill it quite easily with your sword, take the corpse, and wield it as a weapon. Good thing you're wearing gloves, or you'd turn to stone as soon as you touched it. Now, whenever you hit enemies they instantly turn to stone. Until the corpse rots away, however.
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    Bah! Your "depth" is no match for my real time combat!
    *Pulse clicks on SoulSkorpion

    [edit] Damn you guys! You've got me interested in it again! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> I guess I'll just have to use <a href='http://www.hut.fi/~jtpelto2/nethack.html' target='_blank'>Falcon's Eye</a> to ease the pain. [/edit]
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