Rez ****'s..
Smithy
Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12277Members
Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12277Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Its gotta be stopped</div> Seriously - NS is utter crap now in public - AT LEAST 1 person rez **** on a public - Ive once seen 4, even 5..... Stop it - or the "nice" people who build hives, or chambers, or rez will just refuse to play - its already become rubbish.
This has probably been mentioned before I know, but Flayra.... You have got to stop it some how or I think I'll just give up on NS along with many other players....
Thanks...
By the way watch out for the bullsh!t saying "I'll fade for the team" ....
This has probably been mentioned before I know, but Flayra.... You have got to stop it some how or I think I'll just give up on NS along with many other players....
Thanks...
By the way watch out for the bullsh!t saying "I'll fade for the team" ....
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There are good servers out there. Its not too hard to find one.
ns has slowly gone downhill from 1.04 tbh, i think it's too 'polished' and lost the ruggedness the other builds had.
I know it's annoying and before everyone replies 'omg n00borz find another server' which tends to be the trend in these forums, remember that this happens EVERYWHERE, unless it's a PCW or some other official match you're always going to get people who **** res, just because the other classes are more fun to play with.
I think it'd be better if gorging was made more fun, like giving them different weapons to raise hell with, rather than spit which takes ages to kill and is just hold the fire button and hope you don't die.
The gorge class needs some tweaking to make people actually want to go gorge.
The only reason I don't go on a RT rush early game is because I like to get into the action straight away, and as soon as you go gorge everyone else starts demanding stuff off of you, and you end up being some distant entity, far away from the battle.
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tell ppl of my amazing <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> rush(enemies had a nice base) 4 of us ran it 2 heal sprayed and 1 webbed ppl and the last bilebombd the <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> and other bldgs... heh, it was great
as for the other part, the best stragity for ailens at the beginning part of the game, (6ppl) have 3 go <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> and place res(then go <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> and murder!!!), have 1 <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> saving up for 50res(for hive) and the others saving for <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'><!--endemo-->, once there <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'><!--endemo-->, go and murder, simple as dat...
He makes a point, one nobody addresses when I bring up. Why can't NS BE a "pickup" game. Its almost forced clan play. You can't have perfect balance without this number of players, this server, this clan, etc. Why can't I hop into any old random server and have an equal chance at victory or failure? Nobody ever answers this for me. Ever.
people are diffrent,some f4 and others fight to the ugly end(and win at the ugly end), and the game is slightly unbalenced(better for ailens)
No it ain't. It's quite possible to have a good round of pub play. You just need to find the good servers.
He makes a point, one nobody addresses when I bring up. Why can't NS BE a "pickup" game. Its almost forced clan play. You can't have perfect balance without this number of players, this server, this clan, etc. Why can't I hop into any old random server and have an equal chance at victory or failure? Nobody ever answers this for me. Ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because, the SKILL of people vary a whole lot from server to server, and we would have to make dozens of versions of NS, indivdually tailored to different servers, to get balanced games in every server. Not to mention that some of those with low skills might start getting better, and anyone else might leave. Meaning that the skill average has changed, and that the server in question needs to change.
In my experience having about half the team go gorge while the other half saves works very well.
So say you have 8 players:
2 get fat right away and make RTs, they continue to cap RT, provide support for the team, and occasionally fortify areas with OC as perma gorges.
1 gets fat at 30 res and makes 2 DC,and saves for 3rd, then goes skulk to make kills until 50 res to make 3rd hive later, or stays gorge to help 1st group if marines are taking a lot of RT down
1 gets fat at 50 res and makes hive
1 goes lerk
2 go fade
1 goes onos.
1 fade while having 2 onos works as well for a less aggressive marine team.
Of course this is just a general way to organize your team, some situations will require something different. But the bottom line is a team of onos/fades without any upgrades or additional hives is going to lose, but so will a team of all gorges(excepting perhaps gorge rush but you will still want to have a couple skulks to kill buildings). The team has to try to achieve an ideal balance of combat ability and supportive infrastructure to win.
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However, if the whole team starts saving res....well, tough luck. Find another server and hope it has decent players, or wait until the res savers have left the server, your call.
Besides, an early fade can be very crippling for either you or the marines, it all depends on how early he dies ^^;
But seriously, you MUST have someone saving for something early in game, or be crippled by fast marine expansion (happens all the time on my pubs, how bout yours?)
How about all forms can drop RT's and Hives but cant press e to build them.
I know this would radically change the balance of the game, and maybe we would need to raise the cost to do this to 20 (or 25 for equal balance) for each rt and 45 (or 50 for exactly equal cost) for each hive dropped as a non gorge.
This way the perma gorges could have some help without requiring ges. to gorge.
The guy who saves 50 res and fades then butchers 20 marines is just as valuable as the gorge who builds the hive. the 2 cannot work without each other, so you stop saying OMG RES ****!!!!!!, and blaming people who fade. if it wasnt for that guy ur little gorge **** would be shot up a long time ago
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Typical of people not understanding the problem. NUBTARDS WHO HOARD TO FADE AND THEN DIE COST ALIENS THE GAME. Second, GOOD FADES CAN MAKE OR BREAK A GAME, and thirdly IF YOU DON'T TELL PEOPLE YOU'RE SAVING FOR FADE, THEN THEY CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
Too many games some little smacktard saves his 50 res, tells noone, then whines about how we should have dropped DC to help him. How the hell can we drop DC if we don't know what people are doing?
If you're a good fade, you'll have the courage to speak up and say you're saving. If you're an idiot, you'll hoard in quiet fear of being found out. Communication is what its all about. I've seen games where everyone is saving for fade/onos and NOT ONE WOULD ADMIT TO IT. So what happened? While the onos were in the marine base, loling as they devour camped, 1 rine took out the ONLY hive. GG smacktards.
Lets just clarify, because some people can't figure it out - ORGANISED HOARDING IS GOOD, BEING AN IDIOT IS BAD. If you don't have the scrotes to admit to saving for fade, get the hell off the server until you grow a spine.
PS I know plenty of people who can easily admit to fading, and have gained a bit of respect in doing so. Its easier for gorges to plan their building if they're kept aware of the game plan. If noone speaks up, the gorge has to improvise, and this means building OC instead of chambers and hives.
Sitting screaming about how you're "saving the team" with mindless hoarding is a joke. Look at it from the team view - some no name nub just saved 50 res to go fade at first hive. He didn't tell the team, and when they ask him what the hell he's playing at, he responds with a ton of abuse. Who do YOU think the nubtard is?
Compare and contrast with the no name nub who says "ok I'm saving for fade, but I'll drop hive if we need it. Anyone else saving?" and then helps coordinate the team effort.
And in point of fact, having a "name" means bugger all, since people can just copy it, and tags don't mean skills. Try not to make that into a clan "thing", I'm just saying that to every other player on the server, you're just another nub - and they're the same to you. Be a better player - communicate with your team, get enough of a spine to admit to hoarding with a purpose.
When players ruin your fun on a public server for not playing right, don't blame the game.
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That's not even an answer dude, its the same run around I, and others like me, get. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->