<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I find it interesting that Skulkbait and Mercior have such a hate for Valve that they are willing to believe the words of some unknown hacker who has quite obviously broken the law, over the words of the CEO of Valve. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Firstly, I don't recall ever referencing the words of any such 'hacker' person. Second, since when have CEOs ever been more trustworthy then computer criminals?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a funny feeling that as Mr. Newell was once an employee of Microsoft<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That funny feeling would come from fact, the core founders were all MS employees IIRC. <yoda>Good instincts this one has, hmmmm</yoda>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So the HL2 release date slipped, no big deal; I don't see how this could cause so much outrage.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The outrage isn't so much that the release date slipped, but that it didn't officially slip until very close to its release. The fact that vale bungled the steam release and that Gabe was dumb enough to use Outlook and thus lose something very important, didn't help either.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Back when the E3 movies were fiirst released, it was publicly announced that the videos had been made back in September 2002, roughly when the Source engine itself was declared feature complete.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That doesn't help either.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What I would like to know is how levels that were for all purposes complete a year over a year ago managed to become merely partially complete a year later...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And now you know why people think valve was just stringing them along all this time: because they were, apparently.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Back when the E3 movies were fiirst released, it was publicly announced that the videos had been made back in September 2002<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mouse, given the fact that the hacker has stolen very recent files from the valve network (and released them) such as the latest NVidia driver release for Half life 2, the source code to steam or Counter-Strike:Condition Zero we can assume that the hacker has infact managed to get all the latest data valve had. I see no reason why he would end up with all these brand new files but a year old copy of HL2 and the huge release date slide from valve just further proves that the reality is they have done very little in designing the game environments/storyline for what they claim is 5 years of work.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What I would like to know is how levels that were for all purposes complete a year over a year ago managed to become merely partially complete a year later... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> All the maps shown at E3 are avaliable in the beta release as complete as they were in the videos (and there are several unseen sections of the game that are looking near completion) - I beleive there were some material errors in an early beta release - perhaps you saw screenshots of that? (for more info, follow my sig...)
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Firstly, I don't recall ever referencing the words of any such 'hacker' person. Second, since when have CEOs ever been more trustworthy then computer criminals?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a funny feeling that as Mr. Newell was once an employee of Microsoft<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That funny feeling would come from fact, the core founders were all MS employees IIRC. <yoda>Good instincts this one has, hmmmm</yoda>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So the HL2 release date slipped, no big deal; I don't see how this could cause so much outrage.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The outrage isn't so much that the release date slipped, but that it didn't officially slip until very close to its release. The fact that vale bungled the steam release and that Gabe was dumb enough to use Outlook and thus lose something very important, didn't help either.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Back when the E3 movies were fiirst released, it was publicly announced that the videos had been made back in September 2002, roughly when the Source engine itself was declared feature complete.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That doesn't help either.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What I would like to know is how levels that were for all purposes complete a year over a year ago managed to become merely partially complete a year later...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And now you know why people think valve was just stringing them along all this time: because they were, apparently.
Mouse, given the fact that the hacker has stolen very recent files from the valve network (and released them) such as the latest NVidia driver release for Half life 2, the source code to steam or Counter-Strike:Condition Zero we can assume that the hacker has infact managed to get all the latest data valve had. I see no reason why he would end up with all these brand new files but a year old copy of HL2 and the huge release date slide from valve just further proves that the reality is they have done very little in designing the game environments/storyline for what they claim is 5 years of work.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What I would like to know is how levels that were for all purposes complete a year over a year ago managed to become merely partially complete a year later...
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All the maps shown at E3 are avaliable in the beta release as complete as they were in the videos (and there are several unseen sections of the game that are looking near completion) - I beleive there were some material errors in an early beta release - perhaps you saw screenshots of that? (for more info, follow my sig...)