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deaincaelo · November 2003

apologies, let me try to be more clear.
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The discussion was originally on brute force, globally regarded as a destructive force, not force in general. You cannot say that brute force is only destructive when employed by a male.</td></tr></table>
i hardly am. my argument was that my actions were not, ipso facto, destructive. at least insofar as they did not cause any perminant harm to any people or objects, even in the entirely fictional scenario. i apologize that i let this inference occur. so i did not, then, use brute force if brute force is always destructive. i am rebutting your claim that:
(i link destruction to masculinity) + (brute force is distructive) +(i used brute force) > (i am masculine.)
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My not needing to assert my masculinity on a daily basis does not make me less of a man</td></tr></table>
i am claiming the exact opposite of what you think i'm claiming. that you not needing to assert your masculinity in a destructive way makes you more of a human being. i am drawing a corrilation between the decrease in the violent, destructive, or howerver you choose to charicterize it behavior and your increase in emotional security and personal growth. as you said:
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I have been known to perform actions to prove my masculinity, though that has diminished as I am now very secure emotionally. </td></tr></table>
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You also seem to neglect idiotic females from your group... Do you deny they exist?</td></tr></table>
not at all. there are plenty idiotic females out there. they simply arnt part of my argument. if you feel you need to work them into a rebuttle, feel free.
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You claim that your position makes me feel insecure, not true.</td></tr></table>
i do not claim this.
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The last is simply baiting.</td></tr></table>
of course it is. if you disagree at all i want to hear it. and if you didnt then you probly wouldnt be baited by it. at least, not beyond correcting me for my inconsiderate behavior.
<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I believe you must concede that I am not among the idiot male group you commonly like to point to. I've been very honest and possibly over-trusting with you.</td></tr></table>
i have been honest with you as well. as for my opinion of you, i'll concede it when the issue is resolved.

spinviper · November 2003

Any space for me left??

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

No need Spinviper, the A.G 3 is joining this RPG, so sit tight and you'll be in it soon <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Technically when you defend yourself it doesn't make you manly in a way it's self defence everyone uses it once in a while doesn't make you manly or girly in a way, i agree also men have to much power, out of the 13 high judges in the U.K only 1 is a female, also at meetings they have they have been known to insult women by joke form kinda stupid huh ? So Dea what kinda age group do you fit in ? such as 18- or 18 + you don't have to say, i'll understand, anyway can we please stop this arguing we were all created equal, some people are plain stupid and we shouldn't help them.

Way point : 17 meters, the air smells strongly of sea salt suddenly, a TSA marine corpse lies half way down the corridor, strangely unlike you he hasn't got a shadow, the hall way ermengency lights suddenly goes dark up ahead.


"Your friendly fire is deactivated, 344 still controls it, the armoury is unlocked now."

deaincaelo · November 2003

well, im 20. and its not arguing, its debate. eventually one of us will convince the other, or come up with an argument the other cant rebut, and one way or the other there will be resolution.

"hold up. WTH is that? hey, everyone. notice none of the marines here are left alive. i say if we're the only living thing other then the draug, we should back up and send a rocket down the corridor. in case whatever killed the marine-that-defies-the-laws-of-physics is still around."
*holds formation, akimbos at the ready*

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (deaincaelo @ Nov 14 2003, 06:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Even pistol-whipping Epoch did not result any any distruction by any strech of the imagination. Simply pain connected to a negitive action. We're getting into conditioning here.  </td></tr></table> 
Hell!!! I think I lost a few brain cells. And conditioning is like what you do to a dog, ringing a bell to tell the dog it's dinner time. When ever you ring the bell the dog will produce saliva even if it's not being feed.
Are you insiuating that I'm no better then a common dog?
And men and women are not equal. They are not born equal and never will be. Unless, like scientist say the Y chromosome dies out in the next few decades. (Bet you can't wait for that Dea?)
There are some things men can do that women can't and vice versa. Deal with it.
Even though somethings are still not right. Like sexual discrimination and the likes. There really is no need for it. It's just that others find it difficult to accept a women doing a 'mans job'. But that is more down to sterotyping and male chauvinism.

"Dea the term you are looking for is called Staggered File, but now more commonly just File, this formation would be used for travelling along a path or road or in another narrow area. In this formation, the team walks forward in two seperate offset lines, one line slightly ahead of the other so that no member has another person directly beside them. Each section member looks both forward and outwards to their side. They must also occasionally check the soldier behind them to ensure that they have not been injured, killed or replaced with an enemy. The member at the front of the section is the 'Scout'. This person must look out for obstacles and ememy or friendly forces in the area ahead. If the Scout suspects an obstacle, friendly or enemy force, they will pass this information onto the section IC (In Command) with hand signals. These hand signals will be passed right down the section so that every member is aware of what is ahead. The member at the very rear of the section is named the 'Tail End Charlie', it is their job to keep the area behind the team secure and to defend against attacks from the 'six'."
*Holds both hands in a clenched fist above his head. One slighty higher then the other.*
"You weren't paying attention during your field craft, were you? "
*Holds one hand up in a clenched fist and kneels on one knee. (The sign to stop and kneel out of sight).*
"This is bad!"
*Shines my mag-light over the body*
"No shadow? What the f**k? Must be the lighting, it's pretty screwy round here."
"And why do you want me too blast him Dea? I thought that was my line. Bill go check him out please, I.. erm... We'll cover you. He might still be alive."
*Takes several long deep breaths to steady my hands, then aims my pistol at the body.*
"And Bill. Find out what that smell is."

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

A pic of people in a file:
<a href='http://www.the22ndsas.com/tactics_jpg/staggered_file.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.the22ndsas.com/tactics_jpg/stag...ggered_file.jpg</a>

Daza4 · November 2003

"Epoch that is the longest sentance you have ever said."

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

"It must be the concussion from Dea hitting meh."
"Do you think 'he's' still alive"
*Gestures towards the body on the floor*
"Or shall we blast him?"
*Pats my rocket launcher.*

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (deaincaelo @ Nov 14 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And its not arguing, its debate.  </td></tr></table> 
That sounds like something a couple would say. Do you remeber when your parents used to say the same thing when you tryed to stop them arguing? And now their divorced.
*Wipes a tear from my eye*
Good times...

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

PLEASE STOP THE "DEBATING" <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'> There is a freaking draug up ahead and all you lot do is "DEBATE" about men and women. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

Daza4 · November 2003

Yeah take this crap to discussion its really anoying me too. I don't treat anyone different if they are male or female.

*Heavy breathing* "Guys how do we know these things a little citters that can be blown into a wall. they might be huge killing machines!"

Gwahir · November 2003

doh, just lost my entire response... don't feel like retyping it.

Just know that stereotypes exist for both sides. Interestingly enough, the stereotype of "less intelligent gender" exists for both.
I know I'm not one of the less intelligent individuals, but I'd rather not go into the reasons why, unless pressed.

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>as for my opinion of you, i'll concede it when the issue is resolved.</td></tr></table>
She loves me! Or hates me. Has to be an extreme with a response like that.

"No shadow? Under a flash light? I don't like that. Either it's a hologram of some sort, or I have no ide what it is. But it isn't a body, don't go near it.

Now, off to program a graphics engine...

deaincaelo · November 2003

by poular demand, this discussion is moving out of the thread. epoch, gwahir pm me instead of posting.

"well, i want to blast 'him' because 'he' obviously isnt human if he casts no shadow. if he's alive hes a threat, and if he's dead whatever killed him is a threat."
"actually, the formation i was suggesting was a sort of shieldwall-esque thing. sholder to sholder to wall. that way we cant hit each other if we get attacked. the downside is we need one person to be a reargaurd, hat cant fire if we get attacked." 

__________________wall
***************|o---> left end
reargaurd <---o| *|o--> shotguner
***************|o--->me
___________________

Bill_Door · November 2003

"I vote blast that corpse. And please, lets decide on the formation asap, be it an echolon, staggered file or whatever."

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

*Pulls rocket launcher off my shoulder*
"Get around the corner guys. When this blows the force of the xplosion is gonna be focused straight down the corridor, bomber man stlye, but not as funny. And we know what happened last time."
*Rubs a sore spot on my head.*
"If you weren't a girl Dea, you'd be dead."
*Goes around the corner and leans round.*
*Makes a cross on my head and chest with my fore finger.*
"I pray to God we're doing the right thing."
*Waits untill everyone is clear then fires a single missile at the body.*
*Stands and watches the rocket fly at it's target in slow motion.*
*Time suddenly catches up with me and the rocket explodes obscuring the corpse.*

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

Like all corpses it explodes into a pile of gibs, during the blast a black figure loomed on the edge of the explosion, it quickly retreats into the dark, still the gibs produce no shadow, a few emergency lights are destoryed, the shadows loom closer to you.

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

"What the hell is that!?!"
*Draws my pistol and [puts all ten rounds into the shadow]*
"DIE YOU ****ER!!!"

Daza4 · November 2003

"Calm the fu*k down"

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

*Reloads pistol and checks the target*
"A great man once said 'The object of a war is not to die for your country, but to make the other b*stard die for his,'."
*Empties another [10 pistol rounds at the target]*

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

The bullets can be heard smashing into to metal nothing else.

Cleric_Epoch · November 2003

*Flicks mag-light back on and peers down the corridor.*
*Takes a couple of deap breaths*
"It's all clear!?!"
"Ok lets move like we gotta purpose people"
*Heads down the corridor to the armoury slowly. Making regualar sweeps with my pistol and torch as I go.*

deaincaelo · November 2003

*moves out with epoch. flashlight on*
"dont let me being a girl stop you epoch. but maybe you should be concerned about the freaky thing we couldnt quite see or hit that has killed at least one marine. i cant believe you didnt hit it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>. oh well, at least we flushed it."
"343, where do we go to re-enable the ff system? we should make that an objective, after the armory."

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

"I am afriad the friendly fire control is unaccessable to organism, it is a computer related matter, therefore only i may access it once 344 has de-ocupied it, after the armoury it is avaised you go to the hangers and greet our guess."

As you walk into the shadow it suddenly get's cold, your clothes become damp and the smell of sea salt is stronger, a squelching noise of wet foot steps can be heard in front of you.

Armory:7 meters

deaincaelo · November 2003

"frell, back off. it smells funny. somethings wrong."
*stops. shines flashlight ahead*

Gwahir · November 2003

*fires at likely spots as if searching for a cloaked Kharaa*

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

The bullets hit nothing, as the flash light shines ahead a high pitch screaming noise feels the air, as you turn around, you see the shadow reaching further down the corridor as though it was alive, you all feel something on your shoulder, it slowly moves down across your chest down to your feet, suddenly it grabs your feet and pulls you down onto the floor, you see the armoury up ahead, should you make a break for it ?

Bogglesteinsky · November 2003

"guys, i'm done with being cautious"

*scrambles to feet and runs to the armoury*

343_guilty_spark · November 2003

i'll let you all customise a pistols aslong as it sensible, no underslung grenade/nuke launchers, Deaincaelo seeing how you have akimbo your allowed two, unless you want to change.

As Boggle runs for the armoury the shadow bends as though it's trying to block him, he narrowly avoids it and lands in the armoury, guns are stocked everywhere, flame throwers, rocket launchers, double barrel shotguns, heavy machine guns MK2 the design allows it to reload faster and fire faster with better accuracy, "RAPTOR" LMGs a more powerful LMG but with a 20 round clip, a stack of pistols from LAM to scopes to 60.Cals to auto mags to shells exploding tips, a row helmets that seem to have a built it thermal and night vision, these could help with the creature outside, different kind of rockets are stacked together, Napalm rockets, E.M.P rockets, Swarm rockets, Armour penetration rockets, regular rockets, welders, better armour in glass case across the room a odd weapon lays inside, it's labelled "Prototype R.A.P.E.R Rapid assult pulse engineered rifle."

Gwahir · November 2003

*runs toward the armory*

Daza4 · November 2003

*Jumps up and runs to the armoury* "Ho ho ho baby!" *Grabs the Prototype R.A.P.E.R Rapid assult pulse engineered rifle and a helmet. A handgun with a lam. With explodeing tip bullets* "Oh yeah!!! This is what im talking about!" *Drops gl and shotgun, puts helmet on and loads the Raper.*

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