Which Render Do You Like Better?

Icarus · October 2003

Well, i have two renders and i need tips on how to improve them (asthectially) but nothing too big as i am still learning pov ray.
<img src='http://icarus.gamersnetwork.org/pov-ray/fvmhard_shadows.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
OR
<img src='http://icarus.gamersnetwork.org/pov-ray/fvmsoft_shadows.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

The_Real_Quasar · October 2003

Umm, it might just be me but I can't see any difference between the two...
Nice render though.

Nazul · October 2003

lol , look @ shadows <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

2nd pwns ! could i make a Wallie if its finished,
kthnxbai

CaLFiN · October 2003

I would recommend giving him some realistic facial features. Also, make it look like he has "real" fingers.

Nazul · October 2003

cal.. real fingers arent possible cuz the models dont have them <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

homerx · October 2003

Meh.

I can't see the difference either.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

CaLFiN · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nazul @ Oct 19 2003, 03:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> cal.. real fingers arent possible cuz the models dont have them <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Photoshop? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Sorry, but if you want a realistic render, you have to edit it slightly yourself <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Nazul · October 2003

photoshop ? wth .. you cant split things in photoshop dude .. :)and if u rotate it ,whaha ,that would look dumb as hell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> face it , it cant be done <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

for CS there are "Fingered Models" made by 2 peeps ...
but is special ( not for meh <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> )

Icejelly · October 2003

I'd say 2, but give the shadow a slight bit of definition (so basically it's somewhere between 1 and 2). And the bullet could use some "speed" to it, like blur or such, cuz no camera can catch the image of a flying projectile that fast.

Pykmi · October 2003

Second one fabsolutely.

But you HAVE to change that bullet... it looks like that thing inside a Kinder chocolate egg..

CaLFiN · October 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nazul @ Oct 19 2003, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> photoshop ? wth .. you cant split things in photoshop dude .. :)and if u rotate it ,whaha ,that would look dumb as hell <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> face it , it cant be done <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

for CS there are "Fingered Models" made by 2 peeps ...
but is special ( not for meh <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> )  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
When you have something you're happy with in your 3D world, render it. Then open the picture in Photoshop and seperate the fingers.

devicenull · October 2003

2nd one..
What are you using to render these? I am looking for something that can render things made in gmax (version of 3d studio max thats free, but cannot render)

SkinnY · October 2003

patience and intelligence is the key <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

as you can see it is possible to make seperated fingers on a model in a render <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Power-Line · October 2003

just because you cant so it in photoshop, doesnt mean it cant be done,m youd be surprised, as a matter of fact, imma play with this

Jimmeh · October 2003

Please read these:

<a href='http://csnation.counter-strike.net/morph/tutorials3.php' target='_blank'>Mesh Smoothing Tut.</a>
<a href='http://csnation.counter-strike.net/morph/tutorials6.php' target='_blank'>Motion blur in 3DsMax tut</a>

TheDestroyer · October 2003

I dunno if its just me, but the bullet looks outta place, either scrap it or re adjust it to make it so its in line with the gun.

If you keep it, re-adjust the gun to take in account for

-the casing
-the action (upper part **** back to eject the casing)
-the gun angling up because of the bullet coming out

...you know, just make it more realistic

but great work, though!

antifreeze · October 2003

Any chance of getting a high res version of the second 1. i want a new desktop paper!!

Icarus · October 2003

Ok thanks for the suggestions, i will make the bullet look better, its sorta a place holder.
And i just cannot be bothered learning how to make the fingers speerate, as its just the default mariene model postioned in milkshape then exported to POV-RAY (Persistance of Vision Raytracer) Not 3DsMAX.
Ill expirement with the shadow resoloution and fade distance.
The final render (When i get it looking a bit better) ill render it at 1600x1200 so all of you who want a wall paper dont worry!

if your interested in povray go to <a href='http://www.povray.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.povray.org/</a>
Edit: Latest render
<img src='http://icarus.gamersnetwork.org/pov-ray/fvmlatest.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Bogglesteinsky · October 2003

the walls could use a texture. apart from that, nice work

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