2.01 Attack Damage Table

GargamelGargamel Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11773Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">How many bullets kill what</div> Based on www.nonoobs.com Damage Simulator <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Great Job!
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  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    LMG0 does 100 damage to Cara Onos.
    HMG3 does 39 damage to Cara Onos.
    I think something's wrong... or I'm not reading it right.
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  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
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  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--reasa+Oct 18 2003, 12:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Oct 18 2003, 12:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->+<!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> = <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Less than a second to kill an Onos <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • anonamousanonamous Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9766Members
    the numbers are how many times you need to shoot the alien/marrine before they die, eg lmg 0 =10 damage, skulk = 105 points (health + armour) 105/10 = 10.5 or 11 shots.
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  • MarqMarq Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19153Members
    It takes two lmg clips to kill an onos no matter if he's got carapace or not...

    I think oni should have 1000 health and 250 armor <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    Does this chart take into effect the half damage to HA that OCs deal? It doesn't seem to.
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  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    It was created before 2.0 even came out, so go figure.
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  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    edited October 2003
    Lerk spores do seven damage per half-second, not six.


    <!--QuoteBegin--2_of_8+Oct 18 2003, 12:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2_of_8 @ Oct 18 2003, 12:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->LMG0 does 100 damage to Cara Onos.
    HMG3 does 39 damage to Cara Onos.
    I think something's wrong... or I'm not reading it right.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're reading it wrong. That chart shows the <b>number</b> of shots required to kill the lifeform.
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  • GargamelGargamel Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11773Members
    Ehem... it says 2.01 Damage Simulator... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Yes it seems it doesnt count Half-Damage from OCs...
    and dunno about spore... but thx :]

    YES THIS IS NUMBER OF BULLET/ATTACK HITS FOR THE THING TO DIE! xD
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    GJ with the charts. Notice how worthless carapace is for the onos compared to regen.
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  • JPPJPP Join Date: 2003-09-26 Member: 21221Members
    6 shots from a 0pistol to kill a 0skulk?
    what is this based on, weapon stats or actual shooting?
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  • GeronimoGeronimo Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11056Members
    try it if you dont believe it...
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  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gargamel+Oct 20 2003, 02:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gargamel @ Oct 20 2003, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ehem... it says 2.01 Damage Simulator... <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Yes it seems it doesnt count Half-Damage from OCs...
    and dunno about spore... but thx :]

    YES THIS IS NUMBER OF BULLET/ATTACK HITS FOR THE THING TO DIE! xD <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, that's because it's completely impossibe for your source to be right. It claims accuracy for all versions 2.0-2.01, and lots of things changed. If you want real numbers, you'll have to for your own (or get someone to do it for ya).

    Carapace is not useless, btw. Regen is extremely potent when the marines can't kill you fast enough to prevent you from healing as you go, but if they can concentrate considerable firepower, carapace is the only thing that can get you out alive. It's about a 30% effective increase in health, while regen is just fast recovery of lower health.
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  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gargamel+Oct 20 2003, 03:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gargamel @ Oct 20 2003, 03:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and dunno about spore... but thx :]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A basic marine's armor absorption is 30%. This means 70% of damage is not absorbed, and goes to health. 70% of 7 is 4.9, rounded to 5. Notice that, as a basic marine, you take 5 health damage per half-second from spores.
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Oct 21 2003, 02:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Oct 21 2003, 02:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Gargamel+Oct 20 2003, 02:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gargamel @ Oct 20 2003, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ehem... it says 2.01 Damage Simulator...  <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Yes it seems it doesnt count Half-Damage from OCs...
    and dunno about spore... but thx :]

    YES THIS IS NUMBER OF BULLET/ATTACK HITS FOR THE THING TO DIE! xD <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, that's because it's completely impossibe for your source to be right. It claims accuracy for all versions 2.0-2.01, and lots of things changed. If you want real numbers, you'll have to for your own (or get someone to do it for ya).

    Carapace is not useless, btw. Regen is extremely potent when the marines can't kill you fast enough to prevent you from healing as you go, but if they can concentrate considerable firepower, carapace is the only thing that can get you out alive. It's about a 30% effective increase in health, while regen is just fast recovery of lower health. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm... I could get 30% increase in my HP, or I could regen 10% of it at a whack....



    HMMMMMMM tough one.

    For any other class you get 50% increase in hp from carapace, which is well worth it, but not with the onos.
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  • GargamelGargamel Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11773Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Oct 21 2003, 01:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Oct 21 2003, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, that's because it's completely impossibe for your source to be right. It claims accuracy for all versions 2.0-2.01, and lots of things changed. If you want real numbers, you'll have to for your own (or get someone to do it for ya). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If source isnt updated correctly to 2.01 values then all work was for nothing new :[ I *hope* they are correct... :/
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    The thing with carapace is, you use it so youre getting healed anyway or you hit and run for a similar reason.
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  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    Gorge spit does 25 damage, and OC tower spikes do 20...

    (Lerk spores are also 7/half sec, as stated earlier)
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