TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
At some point in the development, I believe they upgraded their visuals, including allowing the purchase of night-vision goggles. Which are kinda stupid in most cases, as there aren't many spots in FA that are dark enough to justify them. Just apparently an 'aint it cool' factor. Though the addition of rifle sway for sniper rifles (and hopefully the REMOVAL of a random-hit cone... I mean, come on. They're the only guns in the game DESIGNED to hit with pinpoint accuracy, and the M82 has a larger cone than a FAMAS?!) is interesting, it unfortunately was spawned out of the addition of concussion grenades (screen-wobbling).
I'd rather stick with 2.5 or 2.6 (NOT 2.65) myself, until I see how decent the sniping is in this version.
And at least it's a bit more realistic than counterstrike, when you're playing with a decent team. If only they could actually balance the weapons, instead of listening to people whining.
Tell me about it... I stopped playing years ago because they stopped the Barret from killing in 1 shot unless it was a very, very precise headshot. Gameplay wise with the rate of fire it had, 2 shots was a rarity ><
For the very few who don't know the Barret in question is actually an anti-vehicle weapon. It was originally designed to be an extreme distance sniper weapon but when they realised it lost too much accuracy over distance it was 're-marketed' as an anti-vehicular rifle due to the fact the high velocity and power of its shots allowed it to penetrate heavy armour with frightening ease and caused such large holes in people at normal combat ranges it was almost inhumane ^^;
...but it got nerfed to 2 shots for a kill in Firearms even though you weren't allowed to fire unless you crouched o.O
I think firearms is an awsome mod....on lan <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
TBH the only mod I *play* is NS, because I've found a good server and a good community.
I have CS, Firearms, The Specialists, S&I, etc etc etc but without a server or community niche, none of them have the same attraction. I'm not detracting from the fine work going into those mods, but I find the more mainstream the mod, the more populated by exploiters, lamers, etc.
<!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Oct 15 2003, 07:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Oct 15 2003, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it was too irritating to die when 5 FAMAS 'ho's rush you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, I'd hope that you'd die when 5 people rushed you....
The thing was that they were rushing a fully stocked m249 position with 2 M60's next to it. It was basically a long stream of gunfire and yet the 1100 RPM Famas still killed all 3 gunners.
Plus it was just the fact that the FAMAS was the only gun I got killed from. M16 was no issue, G36 was a near-killer, Kalishnakhov's 47 and 74 would darn near kill me but FAMAS...such a 'ho gun.
Am I the only one who would gladly embrace the Aug with open arms if only it meant returning to old school FA? I never even thought it was that bad, just underpriced. I used to love that game. But any mod (yes, its a modification in my eyes again, not a setup worthy of the title "game") where no weapon allows you to hit your target with your first shot? Not good. If I'm crouching, standing stock still, and I somehow manage to miss at point-blank range with the AK47... it doesn't bode well. And move limits? Don't get me started on the one-shot-moves-you-back-and-you-can't-fire **** with heavy weapons. It's like CS all over again. FA really <i>does</i> appear to be dying, what with all the complaints and general angst at the stunted release schedule <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Firearms was the mod I hooked onto after i finished playing TFC and before I got into the whole NS kebitz. This was at the 2.5 time and I loved it, reasonably fast gameplay good teamwork on the servers I frequented and when I joined a clan it was like "yey".
Then 2.6 came out.
I haven't played FA since, and I doubt I will again.
I use to be hooked on Firearms -2.5. Was a great game for like 6 months. Then as soon as 2.6 came out it just didn't feel the same. It was so fun pushing forward with your team and that back and forth momentum. Definately had good times with that game. I loved getting the monkey shrine or whatever that was. Too bad it turned for the worst in 2.6. :/
<!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Oct 16 2003, 05:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 16 2003, 05:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ever since 2.0 NS came out I felt the same, I find myself playing less and less...
My perfect world NS would be 1.04, but with 2.0 fade and 2.1 Onos. With bug fixes of course....Oh wouldnt that be blissfull <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hell yeah... but with a tweaked blink ... leave that for s&i tho (imo it should be double walk speed + 95%invis + some sound + 2/3 adr cost it is now) but nobody ares about me *cries*
If that was how NS was, with those adjustments, I'd be so fricken addicted. However what I say bears little weight so I'm not going to waste my breath on suggesting something only to have it shot down.
Its BUGGED AS HELL. I'm talking 'OMG THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" kind of bugged.
First off, they f-ed up the netcode. Now, just about everyone gets dropped pretty often.
Secondly, it'll disconnect you out of a game automatically for 'joining the game'.
And lastly- You shoot someone 6 times in the head when they have no armor, no blood, then after the 7th they bleed? Comon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm pretty sure that this was due to a new version of CD coming out the same day as FA (many servers didn't update, but I did >_<), combined with the need for a new version of metamod.
I love Firearms... which to me is CS minus 95% of the lame. The only problems I have are that the weapon ballistics are poor/strange [DoD ballistics are the most realistic/best Ive seen] and it seems to me that hacking has run rampant recently. I think FA is ignored in the anti-hack community and is suffering for it, which is sad because I really love FA. REALLY love FA. Right now only NS and FA are in my gameplay rotation.
I also have to admit that FA 2.5 where the best versions; I rememeber Rushing the enemy team with an M60... makes FAMAS **** look like girl scouts. When they made it so that you could only fire the M60 whilst stationary it almost ruined the game for me. I could rush a whole team with an M60 and at least take half of them down before being shot to peices, if not, all of 'em!
CS was sort of the same 5.2 was its "GOLD" version as I liked to call it. After 5.2 , it felt like it was getting worse to me.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Firearms was the mod I hooked onto after i finished playing TFC and before I got into the whole NS kebitz. This was at the 2.5 time and I loved it, reasonably fast gameplay good teamwork on the servers I frequented and when I joined a clan it was like "yey".
Then 2.6 came out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
same as me
i played 2.6 for like 3 days, and back to tfc,
never played 2.7
as with 2.8, yeah famas = whoregun agian, other then that, it may hold my intreast, at least intill 2.1
EDIT: BTW i was a member of killtek back in the day, who were you with?
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What's new? I couldn't find changelog.
I'd rather stick with 2.5 or 2.6 (NOT 2.65) myself, until I see how decent the sniping is in this version.
And at least it's a bit more realistic than counterstrike, when you're playing with a decent team. If only they could actually balance the weapons, instead of listening to people whining.
Gameplay wise with the rate of fire it had, 2 shots was a rarity ><
For the very few who don't know the Barret in question is actually an anti-vehicle weapon. It was originally designed to be an extreme distance sniper weapon but when they realised it lost too much accuracy over distance it was 're-marketed' as an anti-vehicular rifle due to the fact the high velocity and power of its shots allowed it to penetrate heavy armour with frightening ease and caused such large holes in people at normal combat ranges it was almost inhumane ^^;
...but it got nerfed to 2 shots for a kill in Firearms even though you weren't allowed to fire unless you crouched o.O
I have CS, Firearms, The Specialists, S&I, etc etc etc but without a server or community niche, none of them have the same attraction. I'm not detracting from the fine work going into those mods, but I find the more mainstream the mod, the more populated by exploiters, lamers, etc.
Plus the FAMAS wh0ring was...despicable. I did get quite good with M16 and G36E but it was too irritating to die when 5 FAMAS 'ho's rush you.
Well, I'd hope that you'd die when 5 people rushed you....
Its BUGGED AS HELL. I'm talking 'OMG THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" kind of bugged.
First off, they f-ed up the netcode. Now, just about everyone gets dropped pretty often.
Secondly, it'll disconnect you out of a game automatically for 'joining the game'.
And lastly- You shoot someone 6 times in the head when they have no armor, no blood, then after the 7th they bleed? Comon.
Plus it was just the fact that the FAMAS was the only gun I got killed from. M16 was no issue, G36 was a near-killer, Kalishnakhov's 47 and 74 would darn near kill me but FAMAS...such a 'ho gun.
But any mod (yes, its a modification in my eyes again, not a setup worthy of the title "game") where no weapon allows you to hit your target with your first shot? Not good.
If I'm crouching, standing stock still, and I somehow manage to miss at point-blank range with the AK47... it doesn't bode well. And move limits? Don't get me started on the one-shot-moves-you-back-and-you-can't-fire **** with heavy weapons. It's like CS all over again.
FA really <i>does</i> appear to be dying, what with all the complaints and general angst at the stunted release schedule <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Or click <a href='http://www.firearmsmod.com/manual/manual1.shtml' target='_blank'>here</a>
Then 2.6 came out.
I haven't played FA since, and I doubt I will again.
My perfect world NS would be 1.04, but with 2.0 fade and 2.1 Onos. With bug fixes of course....Oh wouldnt that be blissfull
My perfect world NS would be 1.04, but with 2.0 fade and 2.1 Onos. With bug fixes of course....Oh wouldnt that be blissfull <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
hell yeah... but with a tweaked blink ... leave that for s&i tho
(imo it should be double walk speed + 95%invis + some sound + 2/3 adr cost it is now)
but nobody ares about me *cries*
I like 2.01, if only because I can now actually play without having to watch the skies for JP/HMG's. Now it's JP/SG's but meh.
FA = dead
Its BUGGED AS HELL. I'm talking 'OMG THIS IS RIDICULOUS!" kind of bugged.
First off, they f-ed up the netcode. Now, just about everyone gets dropped pretty often.
Secondly, it'll disconnect you out of a game automatically for 'joining the game'.
And lastly- You shoot someone 6 times in the head when they have no armor, no blood, then after the 7th they bleed? Comon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm pretty sure that this was due to a new version of CD coming out the same day as FA (many servers didn't update, but I did >_<), combined with the need for a new version of metamod.
I also have to admit that FA 2.5 where the best versions; I rememeber Rushing the enemy team with an M60... makes FAMAS **** look like girl scouts. When they made it so that you could only fire the M60 whilst stationary it almost ruined the game for me. I could rush a whole team with an M60 and at least take half of them down before being shot to peices, if not, all of 'em!
CS was sort of the same 5.2 was its "GOLD" version as I liked to call it. After 5.2 , it felt like it was getting worse to me.
Then 2.6 came out.
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same as me
i played 2.6 for like 3 days, and back to tfc,
never played 2.7
as with 2.8, yeah famas = whoregun agian, other then that, it may hold my intreast, at least intill 2.1
EDIT: BTW i was a member of killtek back in the day, who were you with?