Don't Steam My Sausages, Sir

AnlarAnlar Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8519Members
<div class="IPBDescription">I am completely against Steaming</div> I urge the dev team to have always a non-Steam playable and compatible version available.

Steam is slow. Steam is buggy. Steam is useless for us that have real internet connections. Might improve on those matters but above all Steam forces to have Internet connection. You can't install the game and play it on special lans since there is no version that could be burned to a cd and installed on site.

Don't take me wrong. I have a good Internet connection. You just can't take the game with you to places and just install and start playing the game where and when you want. It's about control. You can play the game where and how only Valve wants. I will never accept it.

I will not buy ever HL2 if it really is Steamed. I will never buy any game that is Steamed and forces to have Internet connection. I will never use anything that has Steam on it. Period.

- Anlar, who plays NS 1-3 hours in average day

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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Anlar+Oct 4 2003, 08:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anlar @ Oct 4 2003, 08:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    I will not buy ever HL2 if it really is Steamed. I will never buy any game that is Steamed and forces to have Internet connection. I will never use anything that has Steam on it. Period. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right. Steam isn't that bad right now - it sorta works. And you will use steam if you want to play HL / HL2 online. After the release of HL2 the WON system is being destroyed and you will have to use steam in order to play HL2 and even HL online.
  • SlayerOfSkulksSlayerOfSkulks Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17634Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Anlar+Oct 4 2003, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anlar @ Oct 4 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I urge the dev team to have always a non-Steam playable and compatible version available.

    Steam is slow. Steam is buggy. Steam is useless for us that have real internet connections. Might improve on those matters but above all Steam forces to have Internet connection. You can't install the game and play it on special lans since there is no version that could be burned to a cd and installed on site.

    Don't take me wrong. I have a good Internet connection. You just can't take the game with you to places and just install and start playing the game where and when you want. It's about control. You can play the game where and how only Valve wants. I will never accept it.

    I will not buy ever HL2 if it really is Steamed. I will never buy any game that is Steamed and forces to have Internet connection. I will never use anything that has Steam on it. Period.

    - Anlar, who plays NS 1-3 hours in average day <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This has been gone over time and time again, but all you need to know right now is this; Valve IS turning off WON support soon, and when that happens, NS will only be playable through STEAM. There is nothing the NS team can do about this; it's a Valve-side thing.

    If you're that bothered, all I can say is this; play it as much as you can, right now. Then, when the WON servers are down, get STEAM... and hopefully, by then, it'll be stable and faster, and might have some of the features you require. If not... well, maybe there's some group online who are working to find away around this whole situation, who knows?
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SentrySteve+Oct 4 2003, 09:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SentrySteve @ Oct 4 2003, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> After the release of HL2 the WON system is being destroyed and you will have to use steam in order to play HL2 and even HL online. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...which is precisely why I'm winding down my online HL time. Unless Steam is made 56k-friendly I'm boycotting it, even if I upgrade to cable. It's a ridiculously half-baked system.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    ~sigh~

    you'll be able to play on LANs without connecting to the internet, Valve's already said they'll patch it for that when Steam's ready. Not to be cruel but can't you guys do a little research before shooting your mouths off?

    As for 'bandwidth' I've not seen any change in my ping or any extra packet loss at all.
    If your'e worried about it just don't log into the friends system and set all your games to manual update.
    Simple <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • nthingnthing Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3091Members
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Anlar+Oct 4 2003, 08:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anlar @ Oct 4 2003, 08:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You just can't take the game with you to places and just install and start playing the game where and when you want.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ?? Of course you can. Where'd you get that from?

    All you need to do is burn the Steam installer onto a CD along with the cache file and whatever other resources you need, found in the SteamApps folder. Then, on your other machine (at your special LAN event or whatever), you can just install Steam again and then copy the stuff back into your SteamApps folder. You needn't download the entire thing again, if that's what you're getting at.

    It's as simple as it always was really. Previously you would have needed to take your HL CD along with the NS installer burned onto another CD, and now you just replace HL with the steam installer and a cache file. It's more or less exactly the same.

    And VALVe are working on it so you do not have to be connected to the internet to play a LAN or single-player game. It might take a while, however, as I'm assuming VALVe have their hands pretty full right now.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    WON is going to be shut off. So, sure, enjoy your non-steamed 2.0...maybe you'll even find a way to get a game going with yourself and some bots.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Perhaps all of the other locked Steam-complain threads didn't give a bit of a hint.

    Steam is here, WON is going away. If the Devs released a non-Steam version, it would be good for one thing only. LAN play. And very few people have LAN parties every night, while quite a few play NS-Steam every night right now.

    Steam was unpleasantly buggy for about three or four days. Since then, the great majority of users have had no problems with it, other than those caused by the HL1.1.2.0 patch, misattributed to being 'Steam's Fault'.

    <span style='color:red'>*LOCKED.*</span>
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