Adding a 3d card to me comp

TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
<div class="IPBDescription">How hard exactly?</div>After what seemed as years of searching, I located instructions to installing 3d cards in a computer. It makes it sound easy enough, but my self esteem wouldn't pass the health inspector's test at a McDonalds. In short, how hard would it be to rip out my cobwebbed Voodoo3 3000 and replace it with something less, how do you say, craptacular?

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  • WoodstockWoodstock Join Date: 2002-07-27 Member: 1008Members
    its realy easy. just take out the screw that holds it and then just pull it out, and then in with the new card. remember force is not good but a PCI port os abit triky some time so u will need to place it straight in and then puch press it if it dont work, press anit harder but not to hard. and remember if u have a full covering flor carped i recumend using a anti-statick devise so u dont damage the card or any ather part of ur computer.
  • ZcaliberZcaliber Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 93Members
    Could someone translate the above post? =\
  • BLACK_MonkeyBLACK_Monkey Join Date: 2002-08-03 Member: 1060Members
    Interesting. Sounds like a task not able for me. I usally will crack even the slightest step on a pencil. If I do change my card in the future, I'll leave it to the mechanic or something.

    Zcaliber, I don't know if he was trying to say that don't put TO much pressure. Or, maybe I'm just obscene. People with bad grammer these days.... blargh... <!--emo&:0--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    1) After unplugging everything from your computer, open your computer case and lie it on its side so you're looking straight down at the motherboard.

    2) look at the bottom of the card. if it's in a white slot, go to step 3. if it's in a brown slot, go to step 4.

    3) remove the screw holding the card to the case. put the screw down somewhere where it won't get lost in a hurry. Grasp the card with both hands and pull straight up. It may be a little stuck. Just pull harder; don't wiggle it back and forth. Continue to step 5.

    4) remove the screw holding the card to the case. put it down somewhere where it won't get lost. Now look around the back end of the brown slot (that's the end opposite from the back of the case), and see if you see a small white tab attached to it. if no, then remove the card like in step 3. if there is a small white tab, then grasp the card near the back of the case and pull up, so that it's partway out, and at an angle. now pull it the rest of the way out, still at that angle.

    5)Put the old card down on the table, out of the way.

    6)Get out your new card and read the manual. Then insert it into the brown slot, doing the reverse of what you did in step 4.

    7)Boot your computer and install the software that came with the new video card.

    8)Play some games.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    DB, Woodstock, thanks so much for the informative posts. I opened up my case a while back, and I think I'll be able to do this. Hurrah, thanks again!
  • ZcaliberZcaliber Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 93Members
    Hmmm...

    The ultimate question: Replace my video card (Voodoo 4) Or replace my processor? (Pentium <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> 335 mhrz)
  • VoberVober Join Date: 2002-03-27 Member: 356Members
    Sigh, they make this look hard: take out the old one, replace it with the new one the same way the old one was in.

    Troubleshooting: The only prob I have every had is when i built my own computer recently, I got all the parts ad stuck em all together. My moniter wouldn't display when i booted up... Problem was you need to push the video card {if its on a AGP(brown slot)} down until you here a second click, and you gota push damn hard, I almost thought it would have broke mine  <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->  

    Have fun
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    Zcaliber:
    processor, definitely. With an upgrade, you can get much more mileage out of that voodoo.

    Unfortunately, considering the age of that processor, you'll probably have to replace the motherboard too.

    If you're pressed for cash, I'd recommend a motherboard based on the AMD 760/761 or VIA KT266/266A chipsets, and an Athlon, Duron or early Athlon XP processor. PM me for pricing/links if you want.
  • SmokeMastaSmokeMasta Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 430Members
    you should replace both
    355 is a bit low and you prolly don't have a AGP port on it that works with the newest cards.
    so you need to upgrad ur Mobo(motherboard) and the CPU and mem.
  • ZcaliberZcaliber Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 93Members
    Ouch... I'm gonna go huddle in a corner and cry now.

    *Grabs a baseball bat* STUPID PEICE OF SUGAR COMPUTER! I'LL -

    Edit: 8incomming transmission* I have 160 megs o' ram... Zophar my only real concern is my processor now and maybe my video card... I'm pressed for cash ATM, so I'll probebly have to deal with the framerate...

    I can't think of any game besides Half-life where i can put the detail to above Low... <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/Skin/SKIN-2/PostIcons/icon6.gif" border="0">
  • VoberVober Join Date: 2002-03-27 Member: 356Members
    how much ram, ram is your friend... my old piece of crap computer was a pentium 2 333 mhz with a voodoo2, but decent amounts of ram, and it was pretty good. Anyways if you got a lil cash, look for a local computer store not a big world wide power market store(best buy, compusa, etc.) I got a motherboard, 1.1ghz processor, radeon 7500, bad ### case, 128megs of ram, and all the other stuff ya need for under $400 from a local store....

    How big is your budget btw?
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Heh, I finally convinced myself to build my own machine last Spring.  Best decision I ever made.  It was also the scariest.  It's pretty nerve-racking to spend money on all these delicate pieces and then start cramming them together.  I don't think I took a breath while running the first boot.  But I only had two problems.  1.  For some reason I couldn't partition my HD in NTSF(?) as recommended by XP Pro.  I had to use FAT32 but I haven't noticed any issues there.  2.  Couldn't get my floppy to read.  After replacing it (with an old existing drive) I replaced the cable and all was well.

    I'd recommend it to anyone.  Just do your research.  A simple search on the net for Build Your Own Computer or some such phrase should get you all you need.  Also, if you're replacing your CPU, check the Pentium or AMD site for recommended motherboards.  That should save some headaches <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    i remember when FAT32 was the phattest thing around. or something. right.
  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    Ahhh yes.. I think spooge hit it best for all you guys  with the older machines looking to upgrade. build yer own... seriously... for about $700 bucks I'm building my dad a comp (after the old one got fried by lightning) with a AMD XP 1800, GeForce 4 4600, 512 MB DDR 2700 ram, Audigy X-gamer, and HDs and CD-rom drives canibalized from his old computer.

    If you're gonna build your own system, you can cut costs down by

    1) using the Cd-roms, HDs, Floppys, monitor, keyboard, and mouse from you rold computer (modem, LAN, Firewire, USB cards, etc too.)
    2) You're going to need to find low-prices www.pricewatch.com is a good place, but... if you can find a computer warehouse that is within driving distance from your house, you can usually save anywhere from $30 to $100 (if every one of your parts come from a different supplier and they're located over seas or across the nation) in Shipping and handling
    3) looking at used/barebones systems- I actually got my case used- it supports ATX MoBos and has a 350w power supply for all you case modding lights and xtra fans

    When you're assembling your little beast it's good to have a friend there because:

    1) it's ALWAYS a good idea to have an extra pair of hands
    2) if they've build a computer from scratch before, then they can help you avoid mistakes
    3) they're an extra set of hands
    4) they will point and laugh when the computer explodes...
    5) You'll have an extra set of hands to help out
    6) it gives you something convienent to hit when 4 happens
    7) did I mention it's useful to have another set of hands to give you the parts while you've got your face crammed in the case?

    Also, it's a good idea to get your wires out of the way (especially on mini-towers that people build for tugging to LANs) for improved air-flow.

    erm.. that's all my knowledge that I have from building my lil' beast (AMD 1800 XP, GeForce 2 overclocked, 256 megs DDR, CD-roms, HDs, Soundblaster Live! 5.1 Platinum, ub3r l337 case mod, super air flow (about 265 cfm in and 80cfm out...), and badassed lights)

    Now... just to save up so that when the GeForce 5 comes out I'll have ub3r l337 fps to match my ub3r l337 case
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Biomechanoid+Aug. 14 2002,20:05--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Biomechanoid @ Aug. 14 2002,20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->when the GeForce 5 comes out<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    From a Maximum PC article about the GeForce4: "We don't know [the next nVidia chip's] name yet, but nVidia tells us it won't be called GeForce 5."

    pwned.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I hear they a screwing around with a new naming system, since we all know how confusing MX/Ti#### was in the beginning.
  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    ouch.

    rizaped.

    well whenever the new Nvida comes out that's what I'm gonna save up my money to buy.
  • SmokeMastaSmokeMasta Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 430Members
    the new card will prolly arive in 1 to 1,5 yrs
    becouse the GF4 is very sucessfull.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Just a side note: If you have a brown slot (AGP) closest to your power supply and the slot has a wee white tab on it. Snap this white tab off at the soonest opportunity, it will cause you nothing but grief at a later date.

    The only <b>really</b> fiddly bit of a computer is the CPU and attaching heat sinks to it. My advice would be to get someone at a computer shop to do this for you, not because they are more skilled but because you'll have someone to blame. The rest is pretty straightforward, just remember to push firmly and evenly along the top edge of the card until you can no longer see the copper contacts on the bottom of the card.

    --Scythe--
    <a href="mailto:the_only_scythe@subdimension.com">the_only_scythe@subdimension.com</a>
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    You have all got me curious now. Whuzza white thing, what does it do, and why is it bad?
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Um, I'm not sure which white thing you're asking about but here's a pic of someone installing a video card - <a href="http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/images/video-install-full.jpg" target="_blank">MOBO pic</a>
    The card he's holding is in an AGP slot.  Look closely and notice that the slot is brown.  Then notice the other slots below it (and slightly offset) are white.  The white slots are PCI slots.  Most video cards now are for AGP slots.  It's become common because of the increased speed.  You can still buy PCI cards but you'll have to look a little harder to find them.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Durh. Uh, ok, lets put this all simple-like:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you have a brown slot (AGP) closest to your power supply and the slot has a wee white tab on it. Snap this white tab off at the soonest opportunity, it will cause you nothing but grief at a later date.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    see that?
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->this <b>white tag</b> off...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Ahh, now I see  :|

    That white tab is a clip that appears to be a safety catch for the card (I guess).  Maybe there have been reports of people trying to throw their monitors around and they wanted an extra clip to keep the video card in place  <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

    From my experience, that clip hasn't been a very big problem.  It just means you'll need a little more dexterity.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Scythe has Gloves of Klutz, -20 to dexterity.

    :-D

    I worked for a while in my school's computer maintenance lab, most... <b>all</b> of the computers there don't have AGP slots. I've seen enough dud motherboards and fried power supplies to last me a lifetime.

    There was a Mac Plus there we got to play around with. We had to hit it on the side with a bass drum hammer to encourage it to eject the floppy disk.

    --Scythe--
    <a href="mailto:the_only_scythe@subdimension.com">the_only_scythe@subdimension.com</a>
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Follow up: my Gainward 650 xp is in da comp! thanks guys, its workin like a charm!
  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    Congrats!

    See now, that wasn't so hard <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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