Hiding At The End Of A Game

SalamanSalaman Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9711Members
edited October 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">What do you guys think of it?</div> I think everyone who has played the game for a significant amount of time has had those games where the enemy team has clearly won, but won't finish the game up. I tend to get terribly bored when this happens and thus I go and occupy myself by trying to establish a hiding spot, so when the game ends I end up drawing it out longer than it should. Sounds pretty lame eh?

I don't like to think of it that way. After a long serious game, the losing team members can earn something of a moral victory by surviving for awhile or making a spectacular kill when the enemy finds them. Likewise, the winning team can relax and compete among themselves to find the hiders first, and either earn glory by defeating them, or ridiculed(in a friendly fashion) when their name shows up next to a knife sprite <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> .

Though there are times when hiding just makes your team angry, such as losing after a rush and everyone just wants to get the next game going. If people on my team are wanting it to simply end then I'm usually willing to /kill myself.

The hiding game at the end of a longer match can be an interesting diversion for both teams, in which they take a break from the usual stressed teamwork game and compete on an individual level to survive the longest or kill the hiders off in the most humiliating way possible.
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EDIT: Changed the one instance where I used "match" to "game". I agree that something like that doesn't have a place in a clan match.

Comments

  • CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
    It's acceptable and fun. I wouldnt do it in a clanmatch though, but in pubs I'd say it's fair game. It's not as if a competent marine team couldnt find a DC healing farm, and if aliens get SoF, it makes finding the marines a cake walk...

    So in short. Thumbs up.
  • JaneJane Seriously&#33;? Join Date: 2003-07-01 Member: 17835Members, Constellation
    90% of the time it's lame/ boring, I play NS to have fun and PLAY, watching someone hide in a dark corner for 10 minutes while the aliens try to put up another hive to get sensory is a waste of time. Sometimes it's funny, but most of the time I just wish we could get on with the game. . . but that's just my opinion. I had one game where a gorge maxed out the dcs/ocs in a location that the marines had to siege to take out due to ocs covering the entrances, so annoying.... I left and came back 10-15 minutes later... no joke they were still trying to kill the same gorge....
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    From the first time I saw people doing it I thought it was intensely annoying. Especially after the alien countdown went in, so people thought they were <i>clever</i> to build a farm of DCs to stay alive in. Very rarely is it amusing to watch. If the game is over, you should end it.
  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    It all depends on the mood of the remaining team, this happens quite a lot, and if people are in the mood they will stay around and watch, if not most of them F4 and the round ends.
  • Rush_Of_PeonsRush_Of_Peons Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13728Members
    Out of this last man standing businesss, i managed to kill 4 marines and get the hive up after 5 mins of waiting for said 4 kills for res. We wernt on to win that game thru a never ending skulk rush (they reloed to that hive which still had a sens <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->)

    Most of the time u get found out easily, i usually find myself in a vent with all of my team dead, i tell then where i am and knfie a few skulks b4 i die, although ive also managed to take down their last hive when they didnt have any dc farms left and we won that one too.

    U see? us "lamers" have our uses
  • IceBaronIceBaron Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13954Members
    I usually get annoyed when I see it, I just want to get the next game going. Not that bad though. The worst time was on eclipse when a marine was under the bridge at the enemy hive thru the whole match. He was there before we started losing and stayed there when we needed him to build, fight and just play. That was really lame. He would hide in a dark corner and watch as the aliens spawned and run around, never fired a shot.
  • Rush_Of_PeonsRush_Of_Peons Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13728Members
    THats what i have against this idea, ppl who deliberately go against the team and hide. It usually comes down to me relocating coz im wormy enough to time my run to be imbetween their attacks and get up another base.

    But if u do this with the teams blessings, funny situations can occur.... like defeating the aliens via chopping the hive in half <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Depends on the server, depends on the crowd.

    Hey, I enjoy chasing that last rine down with sensory. I like to para kill the last living thing on the map.

    Such things don't bog the game down. You really can't hide from aliens unless you've a bloody huge tfarm that noone's found. And even then it'd need to be somewhere like red room (actually, if the tfarm is huge, you should have reloced to it or been close to relocing anyhow).

    On the flipside, marines chasing down that last alien will have to contend with OCs, DCs, and MCs. RFK means the gorge can keep setting them up. GLs will clear it out at a decent rate, but sometimes you have to siege. I don't mind so much as long as it doesn't seriously effect the game.

    Chasing the last rine down - 1 min
    Chasing last gorge down with 3dc - 2 min assuming JP and GL
    Chasing last gorge down with 3+ DC and an OC farm - Not funny.
  • Rush_Of_PeonsRush_Of_Peons Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13728Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Necrosis+Oct 2 2003, 07:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Oct 2 2003, 07:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    On the flipside, marines chasing down that last alien will have to contend with OCs, DCs, and MCs. RFK means the gorge can keep setting them up. GLs will clear it out at a decent rate, but sometimes you have to siege. I don't mind so much as long as it doesn't seriously effect the game.

    Chasing the last rine down - 1 min
    Chasing last gorge down with 3dc - 2 min assuming JP and GL
    Chasing last gorge down with 3+ DC and an OC farm - Not funny. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gorges cant build anything except another hive after the last hive goes down. OC farms are easy to take down, LMG + HA + lvl 3 weapons and a welder will solve all of ur problems.
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Some games a round of Hide and go seek at the end is alot of fun.
    It can be really funny to watch a team of Onii and Fades walk past your spot a half dozen times and never notice you. Or go hunting for that 1 remaining gorge who is camped out somewhere waiting for you to try to kill him.

    Most games its better if it just ends but some times its fun!
  • Harry_S_TrumanHarry_S_Truman Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9568Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maus+Oct 2 2003, 06:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Oct 2 2003, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From the first time I saw people doing it I thought it was intensely annoying. Especially after the alien countdown went in, so people thought they were <i>clever</i> to build a farm of DCs to stay alive in. Very rarely is it amusing to watch. If the game is over, you should end it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To add insult to injury....people waste a ton of res building those little "hiding spots" that could have been spent helping win the game. Waste of time and resouces too.
  • StormyStormy Join Date: 2003-08-25 Member: 20196Members
    edited October 2003
    Common fun one on ns_nothing for the marines is to, once marine start begins falling and onii rampage at will, get a marine to nip into the vent leading from the spawn, weld the end and hold out in the nice, long tunnel.

    Now, some might not like this, but I recall some damn fun and extremely hairy endgames with me perched down the end in HA&LMG after everything in base went boom-boom, with a stream of skulks charging towards me alá Aliens, and desperately trying to mow them down before they could reach me and xenocide. Cue the entire dead marine side egging me on, with much laughter from the aliens as they baited me and whittled down my ammo.

    The point? Hiding <i>can</i> be fun, if you let it be. Fighting to your last breath and clip of ammo, screaming all the way Hudson style, makes for an amusing ending. And I'll keep waking up in a cold sweat seeing those skulks barreling down the vent towards me, teeth bared and chuckling en masse... o.o;;

    (Diieeee alien skum! I'll take you all on! Get some, get some!)>. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    I don't like it at all. Even less so when a gorge has built a little fortress of DC's and OC's in the water tunnel from feedwater to water treatment on bast. Let's get a new game going people, please.
  • SuperMunchkinSuperMunchkin Join Date: 2002-09-28 Member: 1364Members
    If hiding doesn't take more than a minute or maybe 2 I don't really mind. But like others have said it depends on the mood of the teams.

    Yesterday we had a gorge in the vents outside of Waste Handling with just 3 DC's. He'd dropped them just before our final hive died (the game was over, no question). After the marines figured it out, they rushed up there and stacked mines on his head. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Also, I was a marine, the aliens were taking us down on Mineshaft. We'd relocated (somewhere) and I managed to get back to marine start and hid back by the res tower. An onos found me first, but instead of killing me, he jumped on my head and protected me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I was however eventually parasited to death despite his efforts...

    But ah well. Yes there are times when it's just annoying but often it can be an entertaining side bar from the regular gameplay.

    ~Peace
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    I usually run off and hide, if I get the chance. I don't draw out the game, I usually hide for a minute or so and then try and shoot the hive or sneak up and knife an onos.
  • HAMBoneHAMBone Probably the best Commander Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15139Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    The ONLY time i think its acceptable is in a clan match, because time is actually a factor. Otherwise in a pub or scrim its annoying and childish and pathetic and just plain stupid. Its hiding the farm in war2 all over again. And there are alot of clans that actually do it in "scrims", which is just sad to me. Generally if a clan hides in a scrim then you shouldnt even look for them, we all go afk but leave our computers in the game, get a drink, turn on the tv, let them hide for as long as they want until their teammates start yelling at them to kill themselves and their teammates start leaving and they eventually give up. Unless youre in a match where time is a deciding factor in a tie I really cant see why you'd find pleasure in that but whatever floats your boat i guess =\
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