The Riaa Wants To Play A Game...

GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">"Starving Artist"</div> Excerpt from <a href='http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/25/business/media/25STUD.html' target='_blank'>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/25/business...dia/25STUD.html</a>, but quoted MonsE-style as registration is required

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In the role-playing activity Starving Artist, for example, groups of students are encouraged to come up with an idea for a musical act, write lyrics and design a CD cover only to be told by a volunteer teacher their work can be downloaded free. According to the lesson, the volunteer would then "ask them how they felt when they realized that their work was stolen and that they would not get anything for their efforts."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

This would be for grades 5-9. Brainwashing, anyone? We all know that internet file sharing <a href='http://www.theonion.com/onion3618/kid_rock_starves.html' target='_blank'>kills artists</a>...

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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    Well, at grades 5-9, those who actually put any effort into making the band idea/music/etc. are probably the type who liked the whole experience and concept of them soon becoming "famous", whether by downloading or not. That's true artistry right there, doing it for yourself instead of for the money (or in this case, points on an academic grade). It's not the most effective method of brainwashing out there.
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    <a href='http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/music-royalties6.htm' target='_blank'>Lesson 2: How much your effort will take you.</a>
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    edited September 2003
    <a href='http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html' target='_blank'>My own reason for hating the RIAA.</a>


    Seriously skim it, you may learn something, at least thats what I hope <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    RIAA is just an outdated bit of bureaucracy and it's dying.

    They can't face that fact.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Confuzor+Sep 25 2003, 11:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Confuzor @ Sep 25 2003, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/music-royalties6.htm' target='_blank'>Lesson 2: How much your effort will take you.</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah, good one. I was looking for something along those lines to add in, that's a quality article.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    edited September 2003
    <span style='color:green'>Student: Alright teacher, we're done, it took alot of hard work but we...</span>
    <b>Teacher: Its already available on kazaa</b>
    <span style='color:green'>Student: OMG Really? How widespread is it?</span>
    <b>Teacher: Its pretty bad... I'd say that just about everybody has a copy by now.</b>
    <span style='color:green'>Student: AWESOME!! WORLD TOUR!!!</span>
    <b>Teacher: !!!???</b>
    <span style='color:red'>RIAA: Aw nuts, fux0red again.</span>
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Lol.


    Any publicity is good publicity. If people care enough to download your music, then they will probably go see you in concert. And I think Concerts are the main money makers.
  • BathroomMonkeyBathroomMonkey Feces-hurling Monkey Boy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 78Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited September 2003
    Rather than distract them with that silly game, someone grade 5-9 would probably do a better job of <i>running</i> the RIAA at this point.

    "Ok, kids-- now you know what it's like to have your music downloaded. Now, remove your pants, bend over, and get ready to feel what it's like to sign a record contract."
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    but...their so young! no reaming!

    but they would not have the inefficient bureaucracy the RIAA is right now.
  • JavertJavert Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15954Members
    What I'd do:

    Ask if the music-sharers like my music.

    To amuse the teacher: order a hit on whomever she names as "music-sharers".

    "I don't play that game." - Arnold.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BathroomMonkey+Sep 26 2003, 12:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BathroomMonkey @ Sep 26 2003, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Rather than distract them with that silly game, someone grade 5-9 would probably do a better job of <i>running</i> the RIAA at this point.

    "Ok, kids-- now you know what it's like to have your music downloaded. Now, remove your pants, bend over, and get ready to feel what it's like to sign a record contract." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A big ROFL to you!

    If I like a band I will BUY their album/single/whatever, the quality of stuff on Kazza is quite often crappy. And you can't put it in a CD player (and I have yet to find a way to make CDs that are playable in anything other than a computer, but that may just be nubbishness)
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Sep 25 2003, 09:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Sep 25 2003, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> According to the lesson, the volunteer would then "ask them how they felt when they realized that their work was stolen and that they would not get anything for their efforts."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wouldn't care. If I made a CD and people downloaded my songs, be it, as long as they like my music I'm fine with that. It's all I'd relaly care for. And it's not like everyone downloads. There's still millions of copys being sold. I want to be in that little "Activity" and show them they can kiss my ***.
  • LigerLiger Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18026Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Sep 26 2003, 04:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Sep 26 2003, 04:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--BathroomMonkey+Sep 26 2003, 12:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BathroomMonkey @ Sep 26 2003, 12:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Rather than distract them with that silly game, someone grade 5-9 would probably do a better job of <i>running</i> the RIAA at this point.

    "Ok, kids-- now you know what it's like to have your music downloaded.  Now, remove your pants, bend over, and get ready to feel what it's like to sign a record contract." <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A big ROFL to you!

    If I like a band I will BUY their album/single/whatever, the quality of stuff on Kazza is quite often crappy. And you can't put it in a CD player (and I have yet to find a way to make CDs that are playable in anything other than a computer, but that may just be nubbishness) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First: RIAA, you can kiss my arse. You're killing your own sales, because no one will buy anything they haven't heard. What next? going after Radio? (I mean, sheesh, I can listen to it for free all day!)

    To burn it to where it's readable by a mobile and/or stereo, it has to be recorded as a music CD, not a data CD. After burning, it should mearly be labled as Track (whatever), not its former file name.

    I use the the Roxio EZ CD creator atm, came with my burner, and it gives you the choice at the launch of the program... And the one CD I've burned has worked on my CD-player...

    Of course, it could be yours is too old or broken or something...
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Sep 26 2003, 02:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Sep 26 2003, 02:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And you can't put it in a CD player (and I have yet to find a way to make CDs that are playable in anything other than a computer, but that may just be nubbishness) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes you can, Roxio's, as Liger said, works well. Or, just burn a data CD and play it on a MP3 CD player. I have one, and thanks to the Data CD, I have 68 songs on 1 CD and around 4 of them are over an hour long. ~_^
  • fo_sheezy_my_neezyfo_sheezy_my_neezy Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10768Members, Constellation
    there's a problem with CDs today.... as a whole, THEY SUCK. You buy a CD, and enjoy maybe 4 songs on it, why would you pay $18 for 4 songs? People get famous, get used to the money, and then start producing crap CDs full of filler so that they can make all the money off of the one or two songs they put effort into. I rarely ever pick up a CD that I like the entire thing of, and those are almost always debut albums (Weezer's blue album anyone?), or CDs from underground artists that WON'T get their CD bought unless most of the songs are good. I've been burned by crap CDs too many times to bother buying a CD unless I like more than 70% of the songs on there.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Artists lose far, far more money due to the profiteering of the recording industry than they do to filesharing. Does that make file sharing right? No. Does it make the recording industry a bunch of ***holes? Yes. I never buy music, I have bought maybe one or two CDs in my entire life. I download songs because I want to listen to them, and I cannot afford to shell out $15 a CD just for one song. The only difference in my lifestyle is that now I can actually hear music, and the only two CDs I ever bought were ones that I had listened to previously.

    If the recording industry doesn't want to wise up and start selling their music the way the Internet allows them too (and it is quite possible to devise a system to sell music over the Internet and prevent sharing), then things will get worse. I might be a thief, but I don't pretend to be something I'm not either. I don't see any quotes in this thread that say "I am not a thief, the RIAA shouldn't be suing people", and nobody mentioned PC games, so I don't see how that has any connection here.
  • JavertJavert Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15954Members
    <b>Fact: </b> Albums do not receive royalties unless sales surpass production/distribution costs. Few albums, even before 2000, accomplished this, not even hot groups such as "Backstreet Boys" (we're talking 2000 btw).

    <b>Fact: </b> The majority of music/movie/game piracy is done outside the United States, including the Middle East and Asia.
  • monkeymastermonkeymaster Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13771Members
    riaa can suck my balls.
  • SiliconSilicon Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13683Members
    <img src='http://www.ircspy.com/images/content/riaa.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    'nuff said.
  • monkeymastermonkeymaster Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13771Members
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    What's the difference between copying music and warezing games, except for the latter being harder?
  • monkeymastermonkeymaster Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13771Members
    i dont know, i think warez sux anyways, his sites are 100% broken links and its sharing community sux. so you cant really say NO WAREZ talk because warez is just a bunch of fake sites with broken links.
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