In Alien 1, U Wondered Where That Huge Was?

DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
edited September 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">well i have found the answer, i think...</div> BAH! i was wrong!!!, it was another type of alien that saved the marines from being overrun by the aliens to seek revenge on the aliens for killing her father AND the alien you see sitting in the laser chair. they see the aliens "friend" and it telepathically talks to that 12 year old girl who died in the3rd one, in this one she is around 19 along survive with cpl hicks, the alien telepathically sent images into her head while they were looking at it, her father actually was with the alien and got facehugged while piloting the ship, the ship crashed, and thats where the movie "alien" takes place, when they find the crashed ship, i officially dont know how her father was with the alien on the ship and how the eggs were emplaneted in the ship to facehug her father and the "alien". so now we know what happened before the first movie "alien" <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Supra_SoldierSupra_Soldier Join Date: 2003-02-02 Member: 12993Members, Constellation
    Wow, now I'm all confused. Intersting points you make though :) You should AvP2, it explains a little of the backround not mentioned in the movies and helps to mak the movies more understandable (w00t who likes my 3rd grade vocabulary!?)
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    i wos welking doon a stret whin I sa a kat.


    Now that's 3rd grade vocab


    Thanks for the tip Diablus.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I should really rent Alien, then I've seen the whole series... and the huge what?
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    A huge other alien saved them, and it was not a predator, so don’t say it was. It was described as 6-7 meters tall, elephant-like, hovering (with flapping), and telepathic, all of which the predators are not.

    If you want to know what really happened, id suggest reading the book series, there are about 7 books, and they are all great.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    I'm lost... and for godsakes, paragraphs are your friend. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    yeah, i was wondering what i had missed.
    someone explain it for the hard of thinking.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--UnderDOG+Sep 25 2003, 04:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ Sep 25 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you want to know what really happened, id suggest reading the book series, there are about 7 books, and they are all great. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are the books based on the Movie or vice versa?

    Oh, and my friend says they're re-releasing Alien in theaters.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    the books i read ( i think this is the same series ) were based after the films in terms of timeline, kind of an expansion on the universe.
    i think probably the books were written after the first film at least.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    That sounds like the climax to the Aliens: Volume......erm..... One graphic novel.

    Which was reedited into Earth Hive, where Hicks and Newt become just another marine and girl (thusly not destroying the Alien timeline).
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Sep 25 2003, 07:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Sep 25 2003, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh, and my friend says they're re-releasing Alien in theaters. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=47627' target='_blank'>Yup.</a>
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Does anyone have any pictures of this Creature?
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    As far as i know, he wasnt in the movies, at least not an actull picture of him, mabey just his ship, not sure.

    As for the books, they most the them were writen after the 1st movie, but before the second. This is appernt in the 3rd book which Elen Rippley (the gril from the movies) and came in the escape pod of the mining ship, not from some steel colony
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    you mean the space jockey (the nick of the pilot of the "boneship")
    this isnt a laser he was sitting in, it was the piloting chair ,that is biologic connected to his body,hes adnate with his ship.
    the aliens where basicly a genetic engeneered biologic weapon created by the "pilot race"
    millions of years before humans exist. the crashed derelict spaceship was a "xenomorphbomber" that was able to whipe out life on a whole planet with his payload.. somehow the payload leaked and infected the pilot. the war itself wasnt described...


    in a other novel series they described them as "scientists" who where collecting samples of different species... i dont liked this version..
    why they have collected just xenomprphs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    the gigantic eggroom in the movie was a "bomb" storage"


    <img src='http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/SJ2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    <img src='http://kaedrin.com/fun/images/wreck1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    <img src='http://www.xenomorph.org/images/posters/jockey.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    <img src='http://assall.de/movie-prop/alien/a1_21.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    There's pictures of them in the aliens graphic novels.

    I believe they're referred to as the Alien Jockey Species, or Pilot Species.

    You CAN see it in the movies (its the big dead alien in a chair in the first film) although its not much more than a desiccated corpse.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Well, Sheena just explained WHY the Xenomorphs exist.

    Sheena, what's the meaning of life?
  • ThePhilipsThePhilips Join Date: 2002-09-09 Member: 1302Members
    Where do I get these extremly intresting books
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited September 2003
    yea, ecuse me from my paragrpahs i think i got too, excited lol, if i had a damn scanner i would scan those 3-5 pages for you liku to show you what it looked like, i could describe it if youd like, it was about in the book 10 feet tall in a some sort of spacesuit that had jetpack feet. he was armed with 2 laser guns with 3 barrels. he had a elephant trunk and sharp teeth underneath it, its eyes were in the human shape but it had a + for the pupil, it had 2 small tentacles on either side of its mouth and always looked as if it was griinning, she describes it as colld and dark... by the way the books did in fact come after the first alien movie9 they came out 1992 and up) but its very intresting, id rather read the book because they are more graphic with the blood (so nasty with the gore and such) and you get the concept more. by the way i still cant find the sequal to the book Aliens Book One, anyone know where book two is?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Where do I get these extremly intresting books <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well i got mine from a comic book shop when i was young. but i guess u can get them online, i found book one if ur looking to buy it and cant find it anywhere <a href='http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/aliens/alien_predator02.htm' target='_blank'>Aliens: Book One</a>

    Spoiler, Kinda dont read below this if u wanna read the book


    and as Necrosis says, the aliens do break out on earth because of the greedy military trying to breed them ends up losing the queen alien, soon earth is overrun and the humans flee earth tto goto the other colonies and start new worlds
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 25 2003, 09:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 25 2003, 09:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <img src='http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/SJ2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've seen that, it's in Aliens vs. Predator 2, in the room where you fight the queen at the end of the Marine's Campaign.
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    I always woundered about that Alien in the spaceship. It was obvious he dided due to an "alien" but you never ever learned more about it than that.
    So if the "Pilot race" created the xeanomorfs, wouldn't that mean that there are more of them out there still?
    I heard that the next movie is called Alien:Earth.

    Does anyone kno what time frame its being set in?
    I hope its not after the 4th one. That movie was just SO stupid.
    I hated that movie from start to finish. The aliens looked so f-ing bad and the acting as stupid, ripley being half xeano was stupid, the whole movie was f-ing bad!
    The last sceen where they crash that huge ship into the earth.
    Ripley:"We did it, we saved the earth"
    But was I the only one who noticed that when it crashed it made a HUGE f-ing nuclear explosion. How did you save the earth, you just nuked 100 miles of it. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Here's a picture of it in Aliens vs. Predator 2. They should have tried harder in Modeling it.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    its way to small,and the room is not correct.. omg... have you disabled all details? for this screenshot you could enable all of them, fps are not important <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    theres a planet where aliens live free like ants on earth...there are much dangerous species around on this planet.. looks like the pilot race got a biotech lab on this planet, and got overrun by their own creation.. in one of the novels they travel to this "homeworld" of the aliens..

    and in one book (i think it was the same one) a captured alien queen that was transfered to earth by the corporation gets free with the help of fanatic human cultists who see the messias or somethin like that in the aliens....
    the aliens where unstopable, they killed most of the earth population within months.. the "sterilisation teams" send out to destroy the hidden hives where useless... there was always 1 queen somewhere left.. they burned them...shot them..blast them...nuked them without any chance.. at the end of the novel they where already evacuating the earth. but under the fleeing ppls are some infected ones...



    i think crashing the ship,and nuking thousands of sqaremiles is a good alternative to this
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    Aliens: Book One, then its the JOCKEY/PILOT.

    Book One also has the aliens getting to Earth, but I'm not putting up anything more because it'd just spoil the story, really.

    (I have the graphic novel, I recommend it).

    Of course, strictly by the first film, the aliens were meant to be indigenous to LV 426 and designed as a way of aiding reproduction for another species.

    Going by the novels, the aliens have been *spread* by other spacefaring races looking to exploit them.

    The apparent true origins of the Aliens can be read about in Aliens Apocalypse - Destroying Angels.
  • LigerLiger Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18026Members
    Hmm... all very interesting... and after the minor mind fry of the first post, quite cohesive.

    Having not seen the first in its entirety... or even more than 20% of the second (Aliens, I assume is the one with the girl going "They mostly come at night... mostly")

    Oh well, I'll have to track this stuff down when I get some money, because I've always found the Alien(s) universe interesting... And the biological bomber track does sound alot more likely than the collection ship...

    but... to support the collection ship theorum... I'll put out that the Xeno's could have destroyed everything else on the ship... and before the queen kneeled over from malneourisment, she laid those bajillion eggs.... unlikely, but possible.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited September 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liger+Sep 26 2003, 02:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liger @ Sep 26 2003, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    but... to support the collection ship theorum... I'll put out that the Xeno's could have destroyed everything else on the ship... and before the queen kneeled over from malneourisment, she laid those bajillion eggs.... unlikely, but possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    why should the queen lay her eggs in a containment/stasis field?
    the eggs already where there... there was just 1 facehugger escaped that killed the pilot and crashed the ship..
  • LigerLiger Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18026Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 26 2003, 02:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 26 2003, 02:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Liger+Sep 26 2003, 02:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liger @ Sep 26 2003, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    but... to support the collection ship theorum... I'll put out that the Xeno's could have destroyed everything else on the ship... and before the queen kneeled over from malneourisment, she laid those bajillion eggs.... unlikely, but possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    why should the queen lay her eggs in a containment/stasis field?
    the eggs already where there... there was just 1 facehugger escaped that killed the pilot and crashed the ship.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> we know not the ways of the xenomorph.

    Indeed, like I said, the most likely explanation was the bio-bomber...


    Lookin around on the net, but... not too much info... (best site I've found so far had a ton of spelling errors, and constantly refered to them as 'aliens' or 'alien'... which, although correct in one form... isn't the technical name... which requites that site to the realm of "fansites put togather in less than an hour"
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited September 2003
    Necro and sheena are both right, sheena is right because on the aliens homeworld they werent bloodthirsty monsters but simply another species trying to live on along with hundreds of predators (NOT THE PREDATORS UR THINKING OF, Prdators as in Enemies that kill them to live on) and the aliens also do break out no earth due to the greedyness of the governemt to create a biological superioir weapon (aliens) and there was also a cult of freaks who did belive the aliens were the messaiha and they all go visit the queen like a bunch of **** and start worshiping it and going by the eggs not knowing thier horrible fate that lays ahead of them. the aliens universe is indeed very intresting, i think im gonna go the the comic store again and buy some more books <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> oh i also reccomend reading the Aliens: Hive series, i only have one of them with the android alien they make, its intresting but im looking to read more about the alien species and such, im also intrested in the aliens u could create if you facehug another species becuase the chestburster takes some of the DNA from the host and obtains cool characteristics, like the snake alien which is crazy!, man i have SO many collectables i wanna find them, so far i only found my queen, flying queen, gorrila, spitter, and snake alien <img src='http://www.tace.com/items/pictures/pp16576.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    and btw there already is a series called Aliens Earth war [<a href='http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.planetavp.com/conrad/Gorilla.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.planetavp.com/conrad/Main2.html&h=431&w=304&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSnake%2BAlien%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8' target='_blank'>Aliens : Earth War</a>


    its somewhere within those alien editions
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    edited September 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 26 2003, 12:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 26 2003, 12:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its way to small,and the room is not correct..  omg... have you disabled all details? for this screenshot you could enable all of them, fps are not important <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Everything's at Highest Detail.

    [EDIT]I have the Queen, Snake, Rhino, Flying Queen Alien Figures. Those are pretty good designs I love them.[/EDIT]
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Sep 26 2003, 03:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Sep 26 2003, 03:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 26 2003, 12:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 26 2003, 12:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its way to small,and the room is not correct..  omg... have you disabled all details? for this screenshot you could enable all of them, fps are not important <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Everything's at Highest Detail.

    [EDIT]I have the Queen, Snake, Rhino, Flying Queen Alien Figures. Those are pretty good designs I love them.[/EDIT] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    really? omg... cant remember that avp2 looked so whorse <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> maybe it was just this model
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited September 2003
    sweet! theres an alien rhino? awsome can u post a pic? the snake rox, so does these 3 new ones i found called the mantis alien, 2 legs with preying mantis arms to i guess crunch up prey, and the head of an alien, bull alien, and scorian alien which combusts lol i really loved the small 10 pg comics that came with each alien showing the marines encountering that type of alien
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