<!--QuoteBegin--Sudzz+Dec 30 2003, 03:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sudzz @ Dec 30 2003, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That last picture : That vent was already there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> thats what i thought, but then i couldnt figure out if I was confusing 2.01 and 3.0 <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yup, the vent was there before. But a lot of other stuff really has changed, although I can't say if it's for the better or not, since it's mostly just small areas or a few more vents.
Is there any changes on ns_eclipse and the other "old" maps?
If so please post pics <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--X-S-Z+Dec 28 2003, 01:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X-S-Z @ Dec 28 2003, 01:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just a pic from Daimos sekrat room <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This Screen gives me an Idea.... why are there no Outdoor-Maps ? An official outdor map... dunno how to create but that might be interesting?
<!--QuoteBegin--Sudzz+Dec 30 2003, 03:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sudzz @ Dec 30 2003, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That last picture : That vent was already there. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If you're going to complain, I won't post anything new!
I knew the vent was there, I was just unsure if the covering was new or not. I thought it was since earlier in the beta we had more "realistic" collision models for res towers and stuff which made that vent IMPOSSIBLE to get out of/into if a res tower was there. So the old cylinder collision physics were put back in.
Oh well.
There are a few other small details changed about the map, like around acidic res node and stuff. More textures, and more details. That kind of thing. This goes for ALL maps, not just tanith.
Sometimes it's hard to notice.. but I think everybody will notice a big change when it finally comes out.
<!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 30 2003, 04:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 30 2003, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There would be problems with lerks, jetpacks, and skulks. Not to mention fades. So, it's not worth it to ruin the suspence. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That and how do you say where the sky ends? Have a trigger_hurt where space is supposed to be? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> You can fly into the commander's face like that. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Bounding boxes aren't good. Hera is somewhat tolerable just because he removed like 90billion entities that were contributing to the already massive r_speeds in that map. But you can still "wallclimb" on the invisible ceiling. That's why in the mapping guidelines it specifically says no outdoor areas unless it would completely and totally ruin the map.
Take a look at some of the screenshots from Ayumi. BEAUTIFUL snowy, outdoorlike areas, but confined to a tube. Proof that you can have "outdoor" areas without being outdoors. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Look at tanith, too. It has a force field type thing to keep you away from the outdoors. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
First time I see the Marines shoothing the Hive <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
So, i was comming and this guy asks for some mines so he can do a mine trap for onoses. Well, i really couldnt understand how so i just went to see those traps myself. <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/minetrap.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Sat as their last hive went down, so i thought id clear the room from structures while at it, those explosions look nice, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/booom.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
overview of auymi, classic map. With a touch of the back of "some heavy guy" <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/ayumi_map.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Assaulting aliens last hive with heavys. <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/hive_ayumi.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
It so great to see people have fun with 3.0. It was boring around Christmas so me and Arcanic reminded everyone fo the good ol' cl_pitchup 200. We were so supprised with people yelling "WTH!!! OMG UR HAXING" "IM TELLING FLAYRA (or SMOKEDHAM)!!" It gave us a good laugh for weeks.... ah yes then there was "OMG NOW THE HITBOXES ARE MESSED UP" "OMG UR EXPLOITING" gee gee hitboxes are the same, (actual for lerk, they are much easier to hit)
<!--QuoteBegin--Spartan117+Dec 31 2003, 06:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spartan117 @ Dec 31 2003, 06:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It so great to see people have fun with 3.0. It was boring around Christmas so me and Arcanic reminded everyone fo the good ol' cl_pitchup 200. We were so supprised with people yelling "WTH!!! OMG UR HAXING" "IM TELLING FLAYRA (or SMOKEDHAM)!!" It gave us a good laugh for weeks.... ah yes then there was "OMG NOW THE HITBOXES ARE MESSED UP" "OMG UR EXPLOITING" gee gee hitboxes are the same, (actual for lerk, they are much easier to hit) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, much to your avail, those are getting changed/removed Spartan <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
So I'm walking behind the alien assault, with a shotgun, and see a lerk sitting there. As I cautiously approach, it turns into an egg ! Unable to supress my joy, I rush, and take out my knife....
it turns into a fade half way through the knifing and kills me. Lesson : always shoot the eggs in combat, gestations are short.
<!--QuoteBegin--Ots+Dec 31 2003, 09:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ots @ Dec 31 2003, 09:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So, i was comming and this guy asks for some mines so he can do a mine trap for onoses. Well, i really couldnt understand how so i just went to see those traps myself. <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/minetrap.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Sat as their last hive went down, so i thought id clear the room from structures while at it, those explosions look nice, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/booom.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
overview of auymi, classic map. With a touch of the back of "some heavy guy" <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/ayumi_map.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Assaulting aliens last hive with heavys. <img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/hive_ayumi.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ots, there is 7 + 4 other mines in the farest pile <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Trust me on that one. and yes that crazy mine pile of mine got me 3 kills ^_^
Next time, remove the images from the quote please <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ots, there is 7 + 4 other mines in the farest pile Trust me on that one. and yes that crazy mine pile of mine got me 3 kills ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mooore! Give us more! We want teh pictures. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ots, there is 7 + 4 other mines in the farest pile Trust me on that one. and yes that crazy mine pile of mine got me 3 kills ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3 kills aye? 3 onos or 3 skulks?
- RD <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you seriously thinking that an onos would go in such an obvious trap? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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BTW, i gave like 4 mine packs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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thats what i thought, but then i couldnt figure out if I was confusing 2.01 and 3.0 <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
If so please post pics <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
This Screen gives me an Idea.... why are there no Outdoor-Maps ? An official outdor map... dunno how to create but that might be interesting?
If you're going to complain, I won't post anything new!
I knew the vent was there, I was just unsure if the covering was new or not. I thought it was since earlier in the beta we had more "realistic" collision models for res towers and stuff which made that vent IMPOSSIBLE to get out of/into if a res tower was there. So the old cylinder collision physics were put back in.
Oh well.
There are a few other small details changed about the map, like around acidic res node and stuff. More textures, and more details. That kind of thing. This goes for ALL maps, not just tanith.
Sometimes it's hard to notice.. but I think everybody will notice a big change when it finally comes out.
That and how do you say where the sky ends? Have a trigger_hurt where space is supposed to be? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> You can fly into the commander's face like that. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Bounding boxes aren't good. Hera is somewhat tolerable just because he removed like 90billion entities that were contributing to the already massive r_speeds in that map. But you can still "wallclimb" on the invisible ceiling. That's why in the mapping guidelines it specifically says no outdoor areas unless it would completely and totally ruin the map.
Take a look at some of the screenshots from Ayumi. BEAUTIFUL snowy, outdoorlike areas, but confined to a tube. Proof that you can have "outdoor" areas without being outdoors. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Look at tanith, too. It has a force field type thing to keep you away from the outdoors. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
:o
First time I see the Marines shoothing the Hive <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/minetrap.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Sat as their last hive went down, so i thought id clear the room from structures while at it, those explosions look nice, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/booom.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
overview of auymi, classic map. With a touch of the back of "some heavy guy"
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/ayumi_map.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Assaulting aliens last hive with heavys.
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/hive_ayumi.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
We were so supprised with people yelling "WTH!!! OMG UR HAXING" "IM TELLING FLAYRA (or SMOKEDHAM)!!" It gave us a good laugh for weeks.... ah yes then there was "OMG NOW THE HITBOXES ARE MESSED UP" "OMG UR EXPLOITING" gee gee hitboxes are the same, (actual for lerk, they are much easier to hit)
We were so supprised with people yelling "WTH!!! OMG UR HAXING" "IM TELLING FLAYRA (or SMOKEDHAM)!!" It gave us a good laugh for weeks.... ah yes then there was "OMG NOW THE HITBOXES ARE MESSED UP" "OMG UR EXPLOITING" gee gee hitboxes are the same, (actual for lerk, they are much easier to hit) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, much to your avail, those are getting changed/removed Spartan <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
it turns into a fade half way through the knifing and kills me. Lesson : always shoot the eggs in combat, gestations are short.
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/minetrap.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Sat as their last hive went down, so i thought id clear the room from structures while at it, those explosions look nice, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/booom.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
overview of auymi, classic map. With a touch of the back of "some heavy guy"
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/ayumi_map.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
Assaulting aliens last hive with heavys.
<img src='http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/tuojar/hive_ayumi.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ots, there is 7 + 4 other mines in the farest pile <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Trust me on that one. and yes that crazy mine pile of mine got me 3 kills ^_^
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ots, there is 7 + 4 other mines in the farest pile Trust me on that one. and yes that crazy mine pile of mine got me 3 kills ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3 kills aye? 3 onos or 3 skulks?
- RD
Mojo u haxor!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ots, there is 7 + 4 other mines in the farest pile Trust me on that one. and yes that crazy mine pile of mine got me 3 kills ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3 kills aye? 3 onos or 3 skulks?
- RD <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you seriously thinking that an onos would go in such an obvious trap? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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BTW, i gave like 4 mine packs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Mojo u haxor!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Odd, I played with that onos guy(in 2.01), and he didn't have either icon...
Mojo u haxor!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Odd, I played with that onos guy(in 2.01), and he didn't have either icon... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't have an icon either in 2.01 :\