It is, his mother talked to people and said some of the things that happened, her lawsuit specifically were done to get media attention. People that used to be close to him have said he never really got into rapping before Dre discovered him. There's even some evidence that the first time he ever recorded anything was after Dre signed him up.
If you think about it he was around for a relatively short time before getting into producing, cause eventually if he remained popular some of this stuff would come up. And everything he did was aimed at making the most money the fastest, releasing the 8 mile tracks, and then the movie, retiring as soon as 50 cent was discovered so they wouldn't have conflicting record sales....just lot's of stuff. He's a good rapper, and a really good business person (or Dre is at least) but his image is fake.
<!--QuoteBegin--GWAR+Sep 15 2003, 09:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ Sep 15 2003, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dislike rap... frequent use of "****" gets annoying pretty quick.
Worst of all... no guitar... no drums.... just a very very repetive beat. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Agreed, I truthfully can't stand rap, most of it disgusts me.
Worst of all... no guitar... no drums.... just a very very repetive beat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Agreed, I truthfully can't stand rap, most of it disgusts me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes exactly why you shouldn't be posting in a thread called who listens to rap....not who doesn't listen to rap.
And how is rock music not repetetive, just becuase it's a guitar doesn't mean hearing the same riff and chord 55 times isn't repetetive.
That's the most annoying argument I hear about techno too "It's too repetetive". When an average hard trance song has about 30 unique breaks in it, and an average rock song has like 7 different riffs.
That's the thing all those pictures, and all those stories of Dre hearing his demo or whatever, are supposedly fake. I don't know don't you think Dre could have taught him to rap? I mean who's a better teacher than Dre, and other than Snoop, has probably been in the game longer than anyone.
I mean it's obvious Em has talent, it just might be that he wasn't using it before. Alot of people mess around with singing or whatever, the thing is he played up to be his dream, and some people were saying he was just a mailboy when Dre found him.
Listen to How I Could Just Kill a Man by RATM for some nice rap by Zach. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Duff-Man+Sep 16 2003, 02:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Sep 16 2003, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Listen to How I Could Just Kill a Man by RATM for some nice rap by Zach. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Or better, the original Cypress Hill version <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But yes, Zack is one of the most talented rappers that I can possibly think of. Actually, he <i>is</i> the most talented rapper that I can think of...
dont attack music for being repetative. news flash: all music is repetition of sound. get over it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
[edit] better mention something about rap.... [/edit] anyone know brown paper bag? by roni size and reprasentz, i like that... ide like anyone whos tight and technical to be honest, because i can appreaciate any music that has skill in it.
i appreciate rap for being able to add to even the simplest repetative music and draw you through a tune.
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dr. d, eminem was discovered rapping freestyle on a radio show, and had been rapping for 5 years before that with his close friends. Whoever said he's fake is a fake.
Now, that doesn't mean that 50 cent is real. 50 cent is about as real as a white boy survivin in the ghetto, with 3 c-notes in his hands. It don't happen.
Personally, with the way 50 acts, you could tell half the bs that he spews isn't true. No one who'd gone through the stuff he supposedly went through would EVER in ANY circumstance be that open about it, because he knows damn well that his old colleagues would kill his bodyguards AND him, quite efficiently.
Not to mention I also wanna say that all his crap is 'teeny bopper' crud. I've listened to the CD, man, that thing is friggin crap. I've never heard such bad rap music. Em has made a bad choice, for sure...
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<!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Sep 16 2003, 11:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Sep 16 2003, 11:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dr. d, eminem was discovered rapping freestyle on a radio show, and had been rapping for 5 years before that with his close friends. Whoever said he's fake is a fake.
Now, that doesn't mean that 50 cent is real. 50 cent is about as real as a white boy survivin in the ghetto, with 3 c-notes in his hands. It don't happen.
Personally, with the way 50 acts, you could tell half the bs that he spews isn't true. No one who'd gone through the stuff he supposedly went through would EVER in ANY circumstance be that open about it, because he knows damn well that his old colleagues would kill his bodyguards AND him, quite efficiently.
Not to mention I also wanna say that all his crap is 'teeny bopper' crud. I've listened to the CD, man, that thing is friggin crap. I've never heard such bad rap music. Em has made a bad choice, for sure... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol.
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But where do you get the part that his image is fake?
If you think about it he was around for a relatively short time before getting into producing, cause eventually if he remained popular some of this stuff would come up. And everything he did was aimed at making the most money the fastest, releasing the 8 mile tracks, and then the movie, retiring as soon as 50 cent was discovered so they wouldn't have conflicting record sales....just lot's of stuff. He's a good rapper, and a really good business person (or Dre is at least) but his image is fake.
Worst of all... no guitar... no drums.... just a very very repetive beat. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed, I truthfully can't stand rap, most of it disgusts me.
Worst of all... no guitar... no drums.... just a very very repetive beat. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed, I truthfully can't stand rap, most of it disgusts me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes exactly why you shouldn't be posting in a thread called who listens to rap....not who doesn't listen to rap.
And how is rock music not repetetive, just becuase it's a guitar doesn't mean hearing the same riff and chord 55 times isn't repetetive.
That's the most annoying argument I hear about techno too "It's too repetetive". When an average hard trance song has about 30 unique breaks in it, and an average rock song has like 7 different riffs.
But Eminem was discovered by Dre over a radio station, where Eminem was freestyling or something.
Plus, I dont think anyone would get that good at something if they weren't into it for a long time.
Think of it, if Eminem wasn't rapping for a long time, he would suck at it, wouldn't he?
Also, there were a few pics floating in the internet showing the young Marshall trying to rap.
I mean it's obvious Em has talent, it just might be that he wasn't using it before. Alot of people mess around with singing or whatever, the thing is he played up to be his dream, and some people were saying he was just a mailboy when Dre found him.
Why not start teaching someone that actually does know how to rap?
I like some 2pac though, Cannibus, and I like the way Zach Dela Roache from Rage rapped with his stuff.
The messages are usually to left wing for me, or just too retarted (a-la Nelly's music)
Eminem - "Soldier."
Or better, the original Cypress Hill version <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But yes, Zack is one of the most talented rappers that I can possibly think of. Actually, he <i>is</i> the most talented rapper that I can think of...
news flash: all music is repetition of sound. get over it.
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
[edit] better mention something about rap.... [/edit]
anyone know brown paper bag? by roni size and reprasentz, i like that...
ide like anyone whos tight and technical to be honest, because i can appreaciate any music that has skill in it.
i appreciate rap for being able to add to even the simplest repetative music and draw you through a tune.
Now, that doesn't mean that 50 cent is real. 50 cent is about as real as a white boy survivin in the ghetto, with 3 c-notes in his hands. It don't happen.
Personally, with the way 50 acts, you could tell half the bs that he spews isn't true. No one who'd gone through the stuff he supposedly went through would EVER in ANY circumstance be that open about it, because he knows damn well that his old colleagues would kill his bodyguards AND him, quite efficiently.
Not to mention I also wanna say that all his crap is 'teeny bopper' crud. I've listened to the CD, man, that thing is friggin crap. I've never heard such bad rap music. Em has made a bad choice, for sure...
Now, that doesn't mean that 50 cent is real. 50 cent is about as real as a white boy survivin in the ghetto, with 3 c-notes in his hands. It don't happen.
Personally, with the way 50 acts, you could tell half the bs that he spews isn't true. No one who'd gone through the stuff he supposedly went through would EVER in ANY circumstance be that open about it, because he knows damn well that his old colleagues would kill his bodyguards AND him, quite efficiently.
Not to mention I also wanna say that all his crap is 'teeny bopper' crud. I've listened to the CD, man, that thing is friggin crap. I've never heard such bad rap music. Em has made a bad choice, for sure... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol.
c-notes.