Calico...

DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
edited September 2003 in NS Customization
<div class="IPBDescription">Ideas/Responses</div> Calico? you say... but yes, read this:

<!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->The Calico submachine guns are somewhat mysterious and quite notorious in both design, concept and appearance. The key properties of Calico firearms were extremely large magazine capacity combined with slim profile and ambidextrous handling.

Data for Calico M960 submachine gun
Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 2.17 kg empty
Length (stock closed/open): 647 / 835 mm
Barrel length: 330 mm
[B]Rate of fire: 750 rounds per minute[/B]
[B]Magazine capacity: [U]100 [/U]rounds[/B]<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->


now, after you read that, you are saying "ok, what's the point"...

my point is, what feedback can you gice me on the HMG model, i'm starting on...


information stated above and images can be found <a href='http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg57-e.htm' target='_blank'>Here</a>

Comments

  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    TBH looks ugly that gun, as for a HMG version:
    1) No round clip thing.
    2) Nice and beefy, the pictures make it look weak.
    3) No front grip.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited September 2003
    The stock calico with 50 rounds would make a decent LMG, except that it's fugly.

    The helical magazine however isn't a bad idea, especially for a HMG. My budget arms 6mm uses one
  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    Meh I personally don't like it...I have to agree it's pretty fugly (f***in' ugly)

    Oh, and...
    <span style='font-size:27pt;line-height:100%'><b>PICS:</b></span>
    <img src='http://www.law-17.com/images/calico_1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.jmbdistribution.com/images/calico_m100.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.law-17.com/images/bwcali_1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    well, this is the picture i'm working off of... which ust so happens to NOT be on that site..
  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20284Members
    guilty spark, the round clip thing is pretty much the concept the gun is built around, removing it would make using it as a reference pointless

    awesome gun, but im thinking the v_model for it would be pretty bland and chunky.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    that and the round clip is how they get 100 rounds, in such a small space...



    this is why there aren't that many HMG models... hard to find a gun that really *fits*
  • PanzerOxPanzerOx Join Date: 2003-04-22 Member: 15754Members
    Looks like the blaster from star wars a bit.

    It's definatly different.
  • niknito123niknito123 Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20681Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Sep 15 2003, 03:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Sep 15 2003, 03:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Calico? you say... but yes, read this:

    <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->The Calico submachine guns are somewhat mysterious and quite notorious in both design, concept and appearance. The key properties of Calico firearms were extremely large magazine capacity combined with slim profile and ambidextrous handling.

    Data for Calico M960 submachine gun
    Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
    Weight: 2.17 kg empty
    Length (stock closed/open): 647 / 835 mm
    Barrel length: 330 mm
    [B]Rate of fire: 750 rounds per minute[/B]
    [B]Magazine capacity: [U]100 [/U]rounds[/B]<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->


    now, after you read that, you are saying "ok, what's the point"...

    my point is, what feedback can you gice me on the HMG model, i'm starting on...


    information stated above and images can be found <a href='http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg57-e.htm' target='_blank'>Here</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I Think it is a good gun, but you would be better to use the 50 round magazine pistol version for a LMG, and none of those guns on the webpage are suitable for HMG use, only LMG.
  • niknito123niknito123 Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20681Members
    this one would be another good LMG.....
  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    Wow...this gun is...beautiful...
    Del that version is very sexy...could just be me...but I'm in love XD
  • CFInsaneCFInsane Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20254Members
    if anything...id say you make a G36k and add upgrades on it to make it seem more futuristic..plus using custom sounds that can make it seem realstic (if for HMG) use the G36E with C-Mag red dot sight 40mm AG36 and lotsa other stuff...hack stuff up <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> the calico kinda looks like a paintball gun...lol
    either taht or be a hacker(in terms of modelling) combining parts from other guns to make it seemn futuristic and fit NS
  • Vash_Fourty_Five_LcVash_Fourty_Five_Lc Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16913Members
    I think it would be better as a LMG myself, but if your going with HMG, then yeah you need to make it look beefy. You got the one with the stock and foregrip so thats good so far... just beef it up. Oh, and I wonder what crabby will say when he sees this... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TheRealVashTheRealVash Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16547Members
    Vash u seen my gun yet <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=47262' target='_blank'>The 45. long colt</a>
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    Ah, yes, The Calico. I utterly Adore the gun, so much so it made it into the TSO Pack as my LMG. Del's seen it, and dont judge a gun by it's looks, some of the best guns created are also the ugliest.
  • Vash_Fourty_Five_LcVash_Fourty_Five_Lc Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16913Members
    At The Real Vash (lol, vash talking to vash) Yesh I did, I just dropped in on the thread again and saw the high-res one, nice stuff. Still wont' use it cause of the whole 6 rounds verus 10 in NS...sorry...I'm a realisim ****.

    Back on topic, well if Del has seen the TSO pack then it's all good, I was wondering how come he had the exact same pic as Crabbeh... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Either way, I'm intruiged to see how this turns out Del!
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    craby gave me the reference i'm using <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    and also an image i'm not using... but still of the calico...



    anyway, why not two versions? my junky version, and crabby's awsome possum version that's uber?
  • Cheez1Cheez1 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12900Members
    Looks like a really fat AUG without the bullpin. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mr. Headcrab+Sep 15 2003, 11:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Headcrab @ Sep 15 2003, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ah, yes, The Calico. I utterly Adore the gun, so much so it made it into the TSO Pack as my LMG. Del's seen it, and dont judge a gun by it's looks, some of the best guns created are also the ugliest. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ugly? Ugly?! It's f***in' beautiful!!!

    And could u tell me where I can get the TSO pack or this model?
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    TSO pack is still under construction, but once its done, I'll set ya up
  • Fox_OneFox_One Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12310Members
    Can't wait <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PanzerOx Posted: Sep 15 2003, 10:58 PM 

    Looks like the blaster from star wars a bit.

    It's definatly different.  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Agreed <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I know it's a good gun and the clip has to be like that for the 50 bullets but for a HMG version do what the NS HMg does and have like a C-mag.
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    You guys Ever seen Spaceballs? Guess what gun was redressed into the blaster there <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • nthngnsdnthngnsd Join Date: 2003-07-26 Member: 18442Members
    i watched it, cant remember any guns anymore tho
  • KaineKaine Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1096Members, Constellation
    this is one UGLY weapon. i hope i remember to avoid the [mwip] and [mrel] threads for this one <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kaine+Sep 17 2003, 08:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kaine @ Sep 17 2003, 08:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this is one UGLY weapon. i hope i remember to avoid the [mwip] and [mrel] threads for this one <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you don't have anything good to say about the model, then whats the point of saying anything at all ? i like this idea, not many games or mods have the calico apart from chaser, thats the only time ive seen it.
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Its not a very nice looking gun, but I have to say being able to fit 100 rnds in such a small package is a nice addition.
    That gun looks like it would be back heavy even with the 50 rnd mag.
    I bet its a poor shot, recoil would ruin your aim when its got all that back weight.
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    accually, the recoil is surprisingly light, plus, with 50 round full auto, who needs to aim anyway? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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