How Do You Map With Steam?

wRavenwRaven Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6482Members
<div class="IPBDescription">*crys*</div> How? HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW?!

Steam has no .wad, no fdg, no sprites, no sound, .tgas, no nothing! N O T H I N G! I'm freaking out over here!

Is there some **** backwards way to map with Steam? You could keep all your old files, but even then, that dosen't seem like a long term solution. What about HL2? If it uses steam, wouldn't it be the same way?

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  • BigDBigD [OldF] Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1596Members
    I think what most people need to do when it comes to steam...

    is NOT INSTALL IT UNTIL THE NATURAL SELECTION WEBSITE SAYS IT IS REQUIRED. Or at least keep a back up directory of your old half-life (non-steam) and use it to play ns or map with. Call it "c:/sierraold/half-life/" or something to that nature.
  • Anime_Tentacle_MonsterAnime_Tentacle_Monster Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11931Members
    Maybe this is Valve's way of killing off the HL 1 community assuming they will buy HL 2.....

    /me goes to UT2k3/4
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    steam is such a crap. I tried it to play cs1.6 beta (no, Im not a CS-fan but I wanted to see how steam works.). what should I say? it never worked <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    its kind of unfair to all mappers and exspecially all modellers out there. steam says one thing to me: "creators of maps and models... **** OFF! this is for professionell use only!"

    ...
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    Extracting information about the originals might be harder... but you can still stick custom stuff onto steam games.

    Somebody really needs to find a way to extract stuff from .GCF's to make it easier though. If you look under your steamapps folder, and look at the subfolders with your e-mail, you can see that the folder structure ain't that different from the original HL. You just drop your custom maps and folders where you would normally put them.
  • ChromeAngelChromeAngel Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 14Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I'd expect to see a GCF explorer utility real soon.

    If you think about the modding utilities we use for HL, most of them weren't provided by valve, most were based on code released in the SDK. Their might be something on GCF format in the HL2 SDK, in which case we'd just have to wait for someone to write a utility for it as people did with Wally, Worldcraft, Model and Sprite tools.

    On the other hand if the GCF format is part of the anti-cheat security STEAM promises we might well be screwed.

    Let's hope there is a happy medium <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->is NOT INSTALL IT UNTIL THE NATURAL SELECTION WEBSITE SAYS IT IS REQUIRED.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It will be required in under 2 weeks. Then the WON servers go down and no more HL without Steam.
  • OlmyOlmy Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16142Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Developer, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond
    edited April 2015
    [edit] wait a minute, you mean you are using natural selection through steam? maybe i'm the one who is confused <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • amckernamckern Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14249Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    note -
    1. This is for cs, but small changes can set you up for ns, and any other hl mod

    2. This is for custom resouce addation, though finding files will be much the same

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Installing Sprites/others on Counter-Strike 1.6 with Steam. If you have downloaded 1.6 via Steam i'm sure you have being wondering how you change skins, sounds, sprites. When you go to the cstrike folder that steam uses:

    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\<user@mail.com>\counter-strike\cstrike

    You will notice that it is rather bare and has no folders like the old 1.5 structure i.e. Models, Sprites, Sounds.

    The picture below shows my directory which has folders which I have created. If you create the folders and put the custom maps, sprites, models you want then steam will use them

    <img src='http://csnation.counter-strike.net/cssprites/images/steam1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    1 MAPS FOLDER - Place any custom map files .bsp into this folder, steam will use the maps. This folder will be made by steam if you chose to add custom maps from cs 1.5 to 1.6 when steam converted it.

    2. MODELS FOLDER - Place custom models in this folder, the old 1.5 way with some models renaming the v_m4a1_r.mdl to v_m4a1.mdl way doesn't seem to work anymore, I think valve have moved back to the old model way of just mirroring.  I am using the v_m4a1.mdl file instead of renaming the _r.mdl and it works fine.  (Im using m4a1 models as examples of model structure). If you want to change the player models i'm guessing you would make a folder within the models folder called PLAYER then inside that folder several sub folders for each player:
           arctic
           gign
           gsg9
           guerilla
           leet
           sas
           terror
           urban
           vip
    So if you wanted to install a new arctic skin you would place the model file in:
    cstrike\models\player\arctic

    3. SPRITES FOLDER - Place custom sprites in this folder and they will be used, I placed:
            weapon_aug.txt
            weapon_sg552.txt
            selfmade.spr
    Steam used these and I had my crosshair on the sig and aug in zoomed mode.

    4. SOUNDS FOLDER - Place all custom sounds in here, these will be used in with steam, steam also downloads to this directory if a server has sounds that you don't.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href='http://csnation.counter-strike.net/cssprites/installingwithsteam.shtml' target='_blank'>http://csnation.counter-strike.net/cssprit...withsteam.shtml</a>

    amckern
  • MooseMoose Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16248Members
    Beautiful!!! thanks for finding this info Amckern!!!
  • amckernamckern Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14249Members, Constellation
    thats all right, though big thanks is for csnation, i found it on there news page

    amckern
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